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Is the avoid of monsters in Singapore now insanely high?
Because, despite my Battle Mage having 786 Magic Accuracy, I'm missing monsters fairly persistently despite being several levels higher.
I can't find anywhere that has their current avoid listed so I have no idea why this is happening.
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Accuracy is useless now. You're missing them because you're underleveled.
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Mark Wrote:Accuracy is useless now. You're missing them because you're underleveled.
He said he's higher level than the monsters.
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Saying and actually being are two different things.
He could've made an error.
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Nexon AM screwed up the avoid on all Singapore mobs. They're hard to hit, even being above their level, due to having so much avoid.
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I still miss level 80 mobs being level 85.
The avoid of those is so much messed up, that warriors tend to miss them even with a 10+ level difference.
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aslemn Wrote:I still miss level 80 mobs being level 85.
The avoid of those is so much messed up, that warriors tend to miss them even with a 10+ level difference.
I saw a level 114 Dawn Warrior missing on Galloperas, level 94 mobs.
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It seems to me that Singapore mobs rely purely on Physical Accuracy. On my Battle Mage, when I went up to 22x Physical Accuracy from 18x, I noticed a fair amount of misses gone, however still missed an amount.
I was above their level as well(me being 10x) with 9xx Magic Accuracy at Galloperas(level 94)
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Mark Wrote:Accuracy is useless now. You're missing them because you're underleveled.
Lrn2read.
I specified that I am higher level than the monsters.
For a specific example, I am now level 96 and still missing Selkies (level 90).
If you aren't going to be helpful, leave.
For the record, accuracy may be mostly irrelevant, but it certainly isn't "useless" if monsters have high enough avoid.
PeePeeAyeDeeKay Wrote:It seems to me that Singapore mobs rely purely on Physical Accuracy. On my Battle Mage, when I went up to 22x Physical Accuracy from 18x, I noticed a fair amount of misses gone, however still missed an amount.
I was above their level as well(me being 10x) with 9xx Magic Accuracy at Galloperas(level 94) That was my theory, but the fact that a 114 DW is missing Gallops means that can't be the case.
Plus, that wouldn't make sense from a mechanical standpoint since avoid is avoid and the type of accuracy used is based on the attack, not the monster.
Is it possible that the level they are displayed as is incorrect?
@Everyone else - Thank you for confirming that I'm not the only one experiencing this issue. Wish we knew what their avoid was.
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Viaje Wrote:Lrn2read.
I specified that I am higher level than the monsters.
For a specific example, I am now level 96 and still missing Selkies (level 90).
If you aren't going to be helpful, leave.
For the record, accuracy may be mostly irrelevant, but it certainly isn't "useless" if monsters have high enough avoid.
That was my theory, but the fact that a 114 DW is missing Gallops means that can't be the case.
Plus, that wouldn't make sense from a mechanical standpoint since avoid is avoid and the type of accuracy used is based on the attack, not the monster.
Is it possible that the level they are displayed as is incorrect?
@Everyone else - Thank you for confirming that I'm not the only one experiencing this issue. Wish we knew what their avoid was.
Wow, you are incredibly rude. It's not my fault you have such low accuracy.
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Viaje Wrote:Wish we knew what their avoid was.
http://global.hidden-street.net/monster/selkie-jr
HS is accurate for this IIRC.
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Mark Wrote:Wow, you are incredibly rude. It's not my fault you have such low accuracy.
But if accuracy is useless, it shouldn't matter, but it doesn't matter because it's useless, so it's not useless because--
This hurts my mind.
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Mark Wrote:Wow, you are incredibly rude. It's not my fault you have such low accuracy.
I'm going to go with you were rude to start and deserved the retort.
Regardless, my db, with high Physical Accuracy still misses Galloperas infrequently. I have some accuracy potentialed stuff and I will see if it makes a (significant) difference.
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Mark Wrote:Wow, you are incredibly rude. It's not my fault you have such low accuracy. Rudeness begets rudeness, kiddo.
You walk in here and post a reply that is not only unhelpful but also insinuates that I do not know what I'm talking about and expect a kind "thank you"?
Also, my accuracy is far from low. I'd have more than enough accuracy to hit Pink Bean if not for the -5% accuracy per level clause of the accuracy formula.
If you didn't have such an issue with actually reading, you'd know that.
Unleashing Wrote:http://global.hidden-street.net/monster/selkie-jr
HS is accurate for this IIRC. Thank you much!
Definitely seems in line with the standard, but still doesn't answer the mystery.
I should have more than enough accuracy to hit them.
It does seem that I miss less and less every time I level though, so I'm inclined to believe something is broken there.
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I miss galloperas at 144, for what it's worth.
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Avoid in singapore is so damn high that it actually factors in now.
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Unleashing Wrote:http://global.hidden-street.net/monster/selkie-jr
HS is accurate for this IIRC.
It is in fact not accurate; they are +10 from normal mobs.
Normal 90 mob: 81 acc (9^2) - derived from level 90, (level/10)^2 is the normal formula.
Singapore 90 mob: 361 acc (19^2)
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=36394
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Stereo Wrote:It is in fact not accurate; they are +10 from normal mobs.
Normal 90 mob: 81 acc (9^2) - derived from level 90, (level/10)^2 is the normal formula.
Singapore 90 mob: 361 acc (19^2)
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=36394 That's accuracy though. Misses would be a result of monster Avoid, not accuracy.
Hidden-Street does in fact report their Avoid as 364 (which I can't verify is any more correct than 361).
Still, again, it doesn't explain why a Battlemages and Dual Bladers are missing.
In your case, you actually have less than the require accuracy, but neither of the other classes do.
I guess I'll drive my Pali out to see if he misses (has over 364 accuracy).
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Here is the list of monsters in Singapore and Malaysia. Look at the avoidability!!
http://bugale.bplaced.net/forum/viewtopi...ef7b84119f
Note: Furious Targa and Scarlion avoid are 784 (Much higher than Pink Bean)!! Non-boss monsters in SG and MY have 300+ avoidability, while in Maple World, the highest avoid should be 225 instead.
Note: To obtain 100% hit rate, your accuracy >= mobs avoidability and your level >= mobs level.
*UPDATED*
I'm still not sure why you still can miss despite of the high magic accuracy. The SG and MY might still not fully apply to the mobs avoid formula.
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Mark Wrote:Wow, you are incredibly rude. It's not my fault you have such low accuracy.
This is not funhouse.
with Papulatus cape(+420acc) I can get to over 640acc and I still missed them, being lvl 123
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