Vote of "No confidence" against Nexon America

The last option is idiotic and you knew it would get the most votes because so many people have it in for Jamie. The poll was fine and balanced with the three options.

Even though you are the administrator here I dont think you have the right to fundamentally change the outcome of a poll by adding your own biased voting option. Just because you have the power and happen to disagree with the opinions and views doesnt mean you should interfere.

I don't think people are out to get Jamie and her treatment in this thread is self-imposed. There's just so many flaws in what she's trying to communicate that this thread truly is borderline Funhouse.

I agree that tampering with the poll wasn't the most respectable act, and was uncalled for. I also have to admit that the last option really did bring something funny to this absurd thread and it was a valid opinion likely in the minds of more than one.

And I'm not condescending towards people.

You honestly need to re-read all your posts like you suggested to everybody else.

I voted no;

Nexon's been really lazy this year.

No seriously, more sh'it has gone wrong this year than any other year combined.

Hackers/dupers/vaccers have gotten away with so much that the economy has become a giant trainwreck.

Nexon has also caused many problems leading people to lose their valued items, and when they clue in, they throw a biscuit at the dogs who lost their legs from Nexon's own mistakes.

Security is also bad, you have -hime- who is a forum grunt claiming that the Dev's and GM-admins are doing all they can when they're just sitting at desks with coffee and looking at youtube videos or failblog pics on their computers.

The alien event this year was small, but it comes nowhere close to the masteria content that we need above everything else. Nexon's truely living off of Mommy Korea's bottle-feeding in terms of content that we can't expect anything anymore since 100% of our content from now on will most likely be from the main region.

In terms of running a buisness, Nexon tries to act like a government more than anything. They take money, no questions asked nor answered, and they dish out the grool in a bimonthly manor.

They take money, no questions asked nor answered, and they dish out the grool in a bimonthly manor.

Haha, I lol'd.

Let me say it this way and maybe it'll be clearer... it's not my view of people that leads me to show disgust for them, it's my disgust for people being rude, impolite, and ignorant towards the fact someone sees things differently. Right or wrong. Same or different. People have opinions and perspectives, even me.

Seems you forgot that second part... Here... I'll quote it for you above highlighted.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Seems you forgot that second part... Here... I'll quote it for you above highlighted.

Nobody was rude or impolite when arguing against your statements. I believe it's your own ineptitude at accepting and/or understanding the possibility of a second opinion and your attitude in dealing with them that gives people here the notion of your condescension. It's quite apparent everybody is entitled to their own opinions/perspectives; however, when you are argued against and no logical counter is provided your opinion then becomes questionable to all others. We've given you the opportunity to sway our opinions and you have failed quite badly at this.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

This is honestly the only thing I can say to you at this point Jamie. I tried giving you some constructive criticism in my last post, and you blew it off by basically saying you know who dislikes you and you could care less because you dislike them back. You don't even try to work with other people who disagree with you, which is the extreme irony in this entire issue, and because of it you look worse in people's eyes. You say you're sorry about "the way people are with biased opinions," etc., etc., and so all I can say to you is I'm sorry for all of the relationships you'll lose in life with your attitude.

Jamie, why is it so hard to just let go?
We understand your point of view, we disagree, stated why, then you never give up, and we answer back the same response, and it becomes a repetitive cycle of hypocitical bias. When can you just say you're wrong? Do you ever think you're wrong? When is it your time to give up? We aren't here to attack you. The whole point of an arguement is to state opinions and attempt to get a stronger point. But when all else fails, you make us look like we're attacking you and never say "oh, damn I thought....". Why is it so hard?

Maybe instead of picking and poking at my replies and only using part of the subject, he could have used it all and actually made a better statement. How about that? How is that so hard?

This is what I keep getting at... the people take only parts of what they want to use and start twisting the topic to attack me and suit themselves and then act rude, condescending, and ignorant. If he had quoted the entire thing, or even dare I say, re-read it... my statement wasn't about me at people directly, but people's actions. If you re-read the entire quote I made, it makes perfect sense. If you read part of it, it makes no sense at all.

Now please do tell, how is that difficult to do, or is this just some other attempt to act rude, condescending, and demeaning towards me... really just say it, if it is, so you can feel better about yourself.

I voted no;

Nexon's been really lazy this year.

No seriously, more sh'it has gone wrong this year than any other year combined.

Hackers/dupers/vaccers have gotten away with so much that the economy has become a giant trainwreck.

Nexon has also caused many problems leading people to lose their valued items, and when they clue in, they throw a biscuit at the dogs who lost their legs from Nexon's own mistakes.

Security is also bad, you have -hime- who is a forum grunt claiming that the Dev's and GM-admins are doing all they can when they're just sitting at desks with coffee and looking at youtube videos or failblog pics on their computers.

The alien event this year was small, but it comes nowhere close to the masteria content that we need above everything else. Nexon's truely living off of Mommy Korea's bottle-feeding in terms of content that we can't expect anything anymore since 100% of our content from now on will most likely be from the main region.

In terms of running a buisness, Nexon tries to act like a government more than anything. They take money, no questions asked nor answered, and they dish out the grool in a bimonthly manor.

While I agree at the same time I disagree. (sorry if you were hinting this) NEXON has changed A LOT from what they were originally. They could make leaps and bounds in 2011. It's all up in the air my good man.

Yeah Sword, it up in the air, question is how far up is it, and an even bigger question, when it comes down finally, will it make a perfect landing or just crash and burn?

First off, it's also very rude to evade my question I genuinely asked and turned it over to make us feel guilty for saying something. WE ARE NOT BEING CONDESCENDENT OR RUDE. Stop evading questions with irrelevant ideas(by that I meant had nothing to do with me and my question, better yet most of our questions)
Took me forever to edit the word correctly -.-;

Maybe instead of picking and poking at my replies and only using part of the subject, he could have used it all and actually made a better statement. How about that? How is that so hard?

This is what I keep getting at... the people take only parts of what they want to use and start twisting the topic to attack me and suit themselves and then act rude, condescending, and ignorant. If he had quoted the entire thing, or even dare I say, re-read it... my statement wasn't about me at people directly, but people's actions. If you re-read the entire quote I made, it makes perfect sense. If you read part of it, it makes no sense at all.

Now please do tell, how is that difficult to do, or is this just some other attempt to act rude, condescending, and demeaning towards me... really just say it, if it is, so you can feel better about yourself.

Okay, by all means, show me all the rude, ignorant, arrogant, condescending, and immature posts directed to you.

How about you back yourself up instead of fishing out all these Red Herrings? Things make perfect sense to you? Great. Next step is to make sure others understand also, and that is where you are clearly lacking. It's as if you expect we can read your mind...

Red Herrings, logical fallacies, ad hominems... stop with these and let us start the actual debate if you feel so strongly about your standpoint. Let's put our "intellectual" thinking caps on, shall we?

Okay, by all means, show me all the rude, ignorant, arrogant, condescending, and immature posts directed to you.

How about you back yourself up instead of fishing out all these Red Herrings? Things make perfect sense to you? Great. Next step is to make sure others understand also, and that is where you are clearly lacking. It's as if you expect we can read your mind...

Red Herrings, logical fallacies, ad hominems... stop with these and let us start the actual debate if you feel so strongly about your standpoint. Let's put our "intellectual" thinking caps on, shall we?

We can't, she wants to knock it down when we put it on. We try to show her, but she completely disreguards our point with our so called flaws and attacks, ending her with our frustration towards a bias "debate".
Edit: Jamie, not every damn thing someone says against you is an attack, as for the last part after I DARE SAY "RE-READING" -cringes-, you can see I'm getting frustrated as you honestly saw my first post an attack, which is obscene, so I'm not saying it was an attack, JUST stitch that in your brain! Not everything is an attack! You're getting too sensitive over everything.
Edit:And she's gone -.-;
I'm off to bed.

Treat me with the same level of respect you would want to be treated with or please do me a favor and leave me alone!

So if you treat people the way you expect to be treated yourself, then what does this:

http://forum.nexon.net/MapleStory/forums...70260.aspx

mean?

I know you have other things going on, but that's still not going to excuse you from acting like this with other people.

To be fair though I guess you seem to be much more restrained on the Southperry forums than you ever have been on the official Nexon forums *shrug*.

The last poll option is even more idiotic than the thread itself.

Bad move, Eosian.

So if you treat people the way you expect to be treated yourself, then what does this:

http://forum.nexon.net/MapleStory/forums...70260.aspx

mean?

I know you have other things going on, but that's still not going to excuse you from acting like this with other people.

To be fair though I guess you seem to be much more restrained on the Southperry forums than you ever have been on the official Nexon forums *shrug*.

That was like 4 months ago... Why do you have to bring up stuff that's long dead?

That was like 4 months ago... Why do you have to bring up stuff that's long dead?

To demonstrate that it's an ongoing attitude.

Is one month good enough?

http://forum.nexon.net/MapleStory/forums...hread.aspx

There's a whole three year history on there that demonstrates time and time again, just like in this topic, she doesn't treat people with respect when they happen to disagree with her while also falling back to the "You should respect me" line when anyone else says anything even mildly negative.

The last option is idiotic and you knew it would get the most votes because so many people have it in for Jamie. The poll was fine and balanced with the three options.

Even though you are the administrator here I dont think you have the right to fundamentally change the outcome of a poll by adding your own biased voting option. Just because you have the power and happen to disagree with the opinions and views doesnt mean you should interfere.

It's not changing the outcome when the people who are voting for the 4th option would not have voted for the other three in the first place. It's also not like she can't just ignore #4 and only compare the results of #1 through #3, but here's the kicker - What the hell is she going to use the info in this vote for? Is she going to march her awesome little army of 24 people into Nexon headquarters and stage a revolution? No. Is she going to file *gasp* 24 tickets to Nexon about how horrible they are to add to the sea of thousands? Probably not even that. What is she using it for? Absolutely nothing. It serves no purpose. You can't ruin something that had no purpose or value to begin with, any more than you can derail a funhouse thread. This thread is a joke. The entire Call To Action forum proved that abundantly.

@Eosian, All I was trying to say is, why would you soil the greatness that southperry is as a forum and a community with stunts like that?

When you have mud on your shoes you wipe them off on the door mat or traipse it into the house. The mud isn't going to go away by itself.

I honestly don't care how many people here like me or don't like me. I know who the people are who don't like me and I'm sorry that they are so biased towards their own opinion and are condescending towards me and then try to preach to me I'm condescending and I'm wrong, or I'm too different.

Let's end this right now Jamie.
You posted an idiotic thread that serves no purpose, gave it no specific direction and has no actual impetus, message, goal or function.
That has absolutely nothing to do with who you are as a person. Anyone could've posted this and I'd have done the same thing, for the exact same reason. Hell, Fiel & I are responsible for the entire Call To Action forum and before that the TalkToNexon forum, both of which were absolute failures for the exact same reasons. Neither of us is so caught up on self-worship and trying to force everyone else to see/recognize/respect our supreme intelligent that we can't see the reality of of our own mistakes though and admit what didn't/doesn't/can't work. You've proceeded to whine about how horribly persecuted you are through this and several other threads when the underlying problem hasn't changed - You give your thoughts and the moment someone disagrees with them or points out the lack of logic or reasoning in them you go on a tirade rather than addressing the actual issues at hand.

So let's fix this.
Rather than focusing on you you you why don't you go back to square one on this thread and tell us what it was supposed to accomplish and how.
No vagueness. No secrets. Just pure and simple - What was the point?
No "it would've done x if y hadn't done z", that's supposition.

You had to have had an actual legitimate reason for posting, and an actual intended outcome from it. So what was it?

This is what I keep getting at... the people take only parts of what they want to use and start twisting the topic to attack me and suit themselves and then act rude, condescending, and ignorant. .

Followed by calling someone stupid and taking the higher ground . You're digging yourself a huge hole here.