Sad Indeed...

[COLOR="Red"]Im happy ...im still da Strongest GMS bishop x3

bishops using elementals dont count [/COLOR]

elementals sadly DO count now since they applied the bonus, but not the penalty for holy magic *boohiss* oh, and duped gear and shady means of obtaining shouldn't count either then.

If your gear is top-of-the-line you'll eventually be doing 99k with your ultimate. My friend was doing that with a godly Wisdom staff, (he's sold it since, so right now he can't,) so the elementals are not really necessary; at least from the perspective of having that many mesos to throw around. I understand having an elemental weapon will allow that faster, but I know it's been done without elemental weapons.

If someone gave you 99 free AP resets and a free elemental wand 7 or 8, would you reset? LUK mages are basically mistakes (I don't mean to sound harsh).

I agree though, 55 magic loss isn't THAT bad. Heck, 55 magic loss from my magic bonus is like... +275 magic bonus. Not bad at all.

On my server #1 is KhainPriest, who wields a Dragon Staff. Being full luk seems not to have stopped him, even though he quit Maple for three months before reclaiming the #1 spot.

elementals sadly DO count now since they applied the bonus, but not the penalty for holy magic *boohiss* oh, and duped gear and shady means of obtaining shouldn't count either then.

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I said bishops, soon or late elemental weapons will start decreasing holy magic...and about the staff, i dont know if its dupped or not, i just bought it

and the user above, before i got this lame ass ban
i did 93k with mw 20 and gene 30at lvl 145..thinking about it at lvl 15x i will be able to 1hko 100%[/COLOR]
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oh and btw... lolarchmages[/COLOR]

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I said bishops, soon or late elemental weapons will start decreasing holy magic...and about the staff, i dont know if its dupped or not, i just bought it

and the user above, before i got this lame ass ban
i did 93k with mw 20 and gene 30at lvl 145..thinking about it at lvl 15x i will be able to 1hko 100%[/COLOR]
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oh and btw... lolarchmages[/COLOR]

but you have gene30 and mw20 .

but you have gene30 and mw20 .

And...?

And...?

and not everyone can get ulti 30 and MW 20. You try HTing on an archmage, it isnt exactly easy to get on runs. For some reason f/p arent buying M30 in the FM in broa (odd considering our prices are downright shitty on everything else and the one i saw was only like 28 mil), but getting MW 20 would cost you about...350M? for a 70% shot at it.

I want an elemental, i really do. However, the only fire staff/wand i know of that got sold was the 130 fire one at 1 bil, and i have about 160 mil <_<

B> lvl 103 fire weapon on broa 150 mil ;-;

and not everyone can get ulti 30 and MW 20. You try HTing on an archmage, it isnt exactly easy to get on runs. For some reason f/p arent buying M30 in the FM in broa (odd considering our prices are downright pumpernickelty on everything else and the one i saw was only like 28 mil), but getting MW 20 would cost you about...350M? for a 70% shot at it.

I want an elemental, i really do. However, the only fire staff/wand i know of that got sold was the 130 fire one at 1 bil, and i have about 160 mil <_<

B> lvl 103 fire weapon on broa 150 mil ;-;

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thats why i said lolarchmages
and mw20 in windia is like 200m now... i dont know about gene i didnt buy any
besides everyone choose their job for a reason ;3[/COLOR]

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thats why i said lolarchmages
and mw20 in windia is like 200m now... i dont know about gene i didnt buy any
besides everyone choose their job for a reason ;3[/COLOR]

Lolobnoxioustroll?

Seriously, your elitist opinions reflected in your dismissal of non Bishop magicians has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

However, actually addressing the topic, I had done rough estimates with only the vaguest numbers at one point while training and got similar results. In the end though, what's 5k on an ultimate? Sure, it's some notable levels possibly 1 hitting earlier, but that only really matters assuming both Arch Mages are using the same level ultimate. Generally speaking, one can pump points into an ultimate to make up for the distance from 1 hitting something. Besides, it's not like we use ultimates to seriously boss (Zak is a joke to most people by 130 if they don't remember the days where it took 14x+ people with only 3rd job skills and no apples), so the damage difference is even less. Lukless will always have the advantage, assuming Nexon doesn't go back to their roots. As far as I'm concerned, it's not going to happen from all of the Masteria equipment that favors low secondary/no secondary stat classes. I guess the one reason we have to be greatful for in our horrid magic formula is that even if you can bust out 99,999 with an ultimate 15 levels earlier given same stat equipment, it really doesn't matter much.

I'm not overly happy that they didn't put some luk requirement on the 130 staff, like, say, 90-110 or something so as to force someone to use luk equips or add luk, but we're having enough trouble getting Nexon to make them do what they're supposed to at this point (Including nerf holy magic). I'd rather have them like they're "supposed" to be, lukless BS advantage and all, than not have them. At least there is a chance to not have everything based solely on your stats for strength with them.

Lolobnoxioustroll?

Seriously, your elitist opinions reflected in your dismissal of non Bishop magicians has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

However, actually addressing the topic, I had done rough estimates with only the vaguest numbers at one point while training and got similar results. In the end though, what's 5k on an ultimate? Sure, it's some notable levels possibly 1 hitting earlier, but that only really matters assuming both Arch Mages are using the same level ultimate. Generally speaking, one can pump points into an ultimate to make up for the distance from 1 hitting something. Besides, it's not like we use ultimates to seriously boss (Zak is a joke to most people by 130 if they don't remember the days where it took 14x+ people with only 3rd job skills and no apples), so the damage difference is even less. Lukless will always have the advantage, assuming Nexon doesn't go back to their roots. As far as I'm concerned, it's not going to happen from all of the Masteria equipment that favors low secondary/no secondary stat classes. I guess the one reason we have to be greatful for in our horrid magic formula is that even if you can bust out 99,999 with an ultimate 15 levels earlier given same stat equipment, it really doesn't matter much.

I'm not overly happy that they didn't put some luk requirement on the 130 staff, like, say, 90-110 or something so as to force someone to use luk equips or add luk, but we're having enough trouble getting Nexon to make them do what they're supposed to at this point (Including nerf holy magic). I'd rather have them like they're "supposed" to be, lukless BS advantage and all, than not have them. At least there is a chance to not have everything based solely on your stats for strength with them.

No.I meant [COLOR="White"]lolarchmages and lollukless will not domain at all [/COLOR]
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Bishop FTW & Lowluk FTW also x3[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Red"]even tho i got some "infraction"
i was thinking... i have to add to this luk/lowluk mages get more stats from zhelm and ht pend
i get 47 stats from my zhelm wich is 16 luk and 31int, a lukless mage would only get 31 int
so ht pend+1 gives me 44 stats, and a lukless mage only 22int[/COLOR]