pineapple YEA!

so who here'd willingly volunteer for this?
*raises hand*

Question is, will "they" get here before we get there. Or, have "they" already been here.

I hope that planet is filled with hot chicks! The name even sounds sexy!

They may be short and stumpy chicks though, imagine the 4x gravity.

They may be short and stumpy chicks though, imagine the 4x gravity.

Saiyans ranged from short to tall and their planet had 10 times the gravity of earth.

Saiyans ranged from short to tall and their planet had 10 times the gravity of earth.

>fiction
>superior race than humans

I laughed.

>fiction
>superior race than humans

I laughed.

Shut the hell up. Saiyans are real. Believe it!

Shut the hell up. Saiyans are real. Believe it!

D=

Question is, will "they" get here before we get there. Or, have "they" already been here.

Impossible.

Due to common sense, the planet may already have pre-exsisting life on it's surface.

Where there's life, theres diseases.
Where there's diseases, theres getting sick
Where there's people who have no immunity to the disease, theres eventual dying.

You cannot expect to put someone on a foreign planet and expect them not to contract a disease they are not immune to. Thats how the british killed hundreds of thousands of other people in the 1600's to 1800's with smallpox.

If there are diseases on this planet, let alone life that feeds off of other life. The chances are any bacteria there will feast upon us like fatpeople eatting big macs at a mcdonalds.

Impossible.

Due to common sense, the planet may already have pre-exsisting life on it's surface.

Where there's life, theres diseases.
Where there's diseases, theres getting sick
Where there's people who have no immunity to the disease, theres eventual dying.

You cannot expect to put someone on a foreign planet and expect them not to contract a disease they are not immune to. Thats how the british killed hundreds of thousands of other people in the 1600's to 1800's with smallpox.

If there are diseases on this planet, let alone life that feeds off of other life. The chances are any bacteria there will feast upon us like fatpeople eatting big macs at a mcdonalds.

You mean, like War of the Worlds?

The 4x gravity makes it highly unlikely to inhabit it.

Oh, wow.

I allways for some reason believed that Hawking likes to make up some random stuff.

I never thought of him asthe genious most people see him as.

quoting for posterity

You mean, like War of the Worlds?

Exactly, but instead, people's heads may pop from cancerous diseases, their skin may burn from acidic germs, their eyes may crust over from a fungus native to the environment.

Alot of things can, and will go wrong if they even try to step foot in a place where a species that wasn't supposed to be there got there.

Exactly, but instead, people's heads may pop from cancerous diseases, their skin may burn from acidic germs, their eyes may crust over from a fungus native to the environment.

Alot of things can, and will go wrong if they even try to step foot in a place where a species that wasn't supposed to be there got there.

Ahh...Murphy's Law. I forgot about that >.>

Impossible.

Due to common sense, the planet may already have pre-exsisting life on it's surface.

Where there's life, theres diseases.
Where there's diseases, theres getting sick
Where there's people who have no immunity to the disease, theres eventual dying.

You cannot expect to put someone on a foreign planet and expect them not to contract a disease they are not immune to. Thats how the british killed hundreds of thousands of other people in the 1600's to 1800's with smallpox.

If there are diseases on this planet, let alone life that feeds off of other life. The chances are any bacteria there will feast upon us like fatpeople eatting big macs at a mcdonalds.

You've already made the enormous leap that these alien lifeforms have a biology compatible with earth life. That's a ridiculous assumption to make. Even here on earth, most diseases only affect a small portion of the wildlife. More than likely the result of alien bacteria meeting earth life would be "I don't know what to do with this."

That's not to say we shouldn't be careful exploring it (After all they could have toxic byproducts of their biology), but trying to equate humans from one continent meeting humans from another continent to life that developed independently on separate planets with potentially radically different biologies is absurd.

Wait...is gravity proportional to mass or something? Because I must have skipped where it says 4x gravity. Just 4x the mass of Earth.

Its mass indicates that it is probably a rocky planet and has enough gravity to hold on to an atmosphere, according to Steven Vogt, professor of astronomy and astrophysics at the University of California, Santa Cruz, and one of the leaders of the team that discovered the planet.

Ok, so I KIND OF answered my own question. But I still don't...yeah.

iirc, yes mass influences gravity. that's why the moon has wacky gravity.

edit: if you think about it, it makes a lot of sense. if something with a lot of mass lands on top of you, it presses against you with more force, while objects with very little mass (helium) float away

I'm up for it. Just need to build a suit to counter act the increase of gravity, and hop into a spaceship right now. I should get there by the time Earth goes bye bye, but not be as old as I should, depending on how fast my ship travels...

Actually, the new gravity would be 4 * the ratio of radii. If it's the same size of Earth but denser, it'd have more gravity. If it's radius is 4 times that of Earth (ie, same density as Earth, just bigger), the radius and mass should cancel each other out to have a force of gravity roughly 10 m/s.

Edit: Got the numbers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581_g

3.1 – 4.3 Earth Masses
1.3 – 2 Earth Radii

So it should have double the gravity, roughly.

Edit2: I read the wiki
Surface gravity (g) 1.1 – 1.7[1] g