Wings and Heart of the Legacy of the Void Swarm (Gameplay Thread) - Night 7

Argghhh, that's a shame I already wasted my 2 IRC blocking tactics, as I could've blocked ChaoticCJ from going onto IRC.

if anyone that is playing the game and is terran talks privately, god killing occurs iirc.

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Siblings are roles that know each each other's alignment, and die when any of the other siblings die. The classic Siblings roles are a Goon and a Cop who know each other, with the condition that if one dies, the other commits suicide the following night.

Variations:
The Siblings may talk at night.
The Siblings suffer some other fate if the other dies.
The Siblings do not know each other's alignments (in this case they are called Lovers). If a Lover is a member of the Mafia, they are commonly called a Treacherous Lover.

[COLOR="green"]Considering nobody has bothered roleclaiming against Tobi to prove him wrong, I'm going to [vote] MetaSeraphim.

He voted against Mephisto, the claimed cop with 2 correct kills. That seems like the biggest scumtell I can find in this entire game.

And Tobi was talking about Lovers from the Pokemafia thread. They could talk at night with each other and could kill when the other died. There's many variations on roles, so don't hold the mafia wiki roles in stone.[/COLOR]

I'm on the fence between MetaSeraphim and Tobi, as no one tried to defend Tobi, but if I remember correctly Meta didn't vote for a Mafia. Plus Meta keeps on accusing me of Mafia. Then again, Tobias is equally suspicious.

Go go go Meta and Tobi go defend yourselves.

Redirect from Lover

Siblings are roles that know each each other's alignment, and die when any of the other siblings die. The classic Siblings roles are a Goon and a Cop who know each other, with the condition that if one dies, the other commits suicide the following night.

Variations:
The Siblings may talk at night.
The Siblings suffer some other fate if the other dies.
The Siblings do not know each other's alignments (in this case they are called Lovers). If a Lover is a member of the Mafia, they are commonly called a Treacherous Lover.

hmm, never knew about that. interesting, thank you for that.

Tally reminder:
3 votes Me.
2 votes CJ.
2 vote Meta.

*orders another drink*
think this'll be my last post guys. I know i'm doomed, but maybe my death will help point the terrans to victory. something i noticed was how only a zerg kill took place today, as im assuming based off of Meph's clues that Zerg are parasitic in nature, or something along those lines. Meph was killed by an internal explosion, so i assume that zerg still has their killer and Protoss either lost their killer or was blocked.

[color="#cc8899"]Metagaming is metagaming. Just because it's not officially agaisnt the rules doesn't mean it's right.
Also, ^. Say Fiel was participating, there'd be nothing to stop him from reading peoples' PMs, which is not against the rules. Assuming you don't already have that capability. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean it's in the spirit of the game.[/COLOR]

What mod powers? I used my superhuman abilities of observation. I've been suspecting him since last night, but I was in stasis.

You guys are wrong, I set up a mafia channel that was +s, private, everything back a game or two ago and it was very visible through a /whois, it really depends on which client you're using. Some can see secret channels, others can't. It's weird.

Actually, that was because I was in the channel myself that I could /whois people in the channel and see that they were there. Tested it myself with two XChat clients.

Well I'm not 100% on your side Tobias, but with my suspicions of Meta, I think killing him is more likely to prove whether you're a mafia or terran. So far everyone else that was voted for, while suspicious, is still nowhere near him. Dusk remains suspicious as well, but as he's gone for the moment, I think it better to tackle Meta. Thus, my vote is dual in nature, it will take out someone that has acted suspiciously, and perhaps confirm whether you're telling the truth or not.

Also yes, I do agree with Ray that it required no mod powers to notice ChaoticCJ on IRC. I noted it when I was on the other day as unusual, but I still don't feel that it alone is evidence of being mafia.

*orders an amaretto and coke*
now this is a delicious last drink.


question: Why hasn't Hiepocrite posted yet?
Maybe if i live i can investigate him tonight? PFFT LOL LIKE THAT'LL HAPPEN. Cheers guys.

As far as the irc thing goes, there is some suspicious elements to that, but it is not enough to convince me that he's mafia. It's not like that's the only way private communication can go on. If he happened to be a lover, then perhaps irc chats was their way to talk rather than via pms. Of course it's equally possible he's a mafia member, but for the moment, I still find MetaSeraphim to be the most suspicious given his past posts and actions.

Edit: Also with Mephisto's comment, I find myself thinking that Dusk and MetaSeraphim remain high on the suspect list. While I'm on it though, I'm still a bit suspicious of Hiepocrite and Synthesist. Their lack of presense would seem to suggest either they're neutrals trying to stay alive as long as possible, lurkers trying to keep a low profile, or they're idle. The first isn't so bad since neutrals are going to be after the mafia too, but the second is a bit worrisome and the third sucks if they're Terrans. Of course if they're mafia, then the third one is good. XP

*orders an amaretto and coke*
now this is a delicious last drink.


question: Why hasn't Hiepocrite posted yet?
Maybe if i live i can investigate him tonight? PFFT LOL LIKE THAT'LL HAPPEN. Cheers guys.

Just figured I'd point that out to you.

Just figured I'd point that out to you.

lol, thanks. im more just waiting for the deadline really, not following much of the discussion at this point. Synthesist too eh? *shrug*

Considering how I've accidentally started a storm of controversy by using my eyes, I think I'll retire from Southperry mafia after this game.

...jesus Christ Ray, don't retire just because of this stupid thing.

Let's all just pass it off at forget it ever happened, and future hosts can decide whether you can base on IRC patterns or not.

I don't really have a problem with noting something like that Ray, and I don't think you need to exclude yourself because of it. I dunno, I didn't have a problem with an IRC reliant game, and I don't have a problem with a non IRC mafia game, or a mix between the two. I would say that accusing anyone of being mafia based on being on IRC is a bit questionable, but it's up to everyone's individual logic as to whether or not that is something you take into account when figuring out mafia members. For me, just having someone log on IRC after joining a mafia game isn't too suspicious. I did the same thing when I decided to join in. Even if it wasn't a requirement, I still would have gotten on then so as to stay abreast of things in game. While it's true most major discussion probably shouldn't happen on there, you still may miss something by not logging on and thus, if you're trying to discover more info, it's certainly not a bad idea to do so.

...jesus Christ Ray, don't retire just because of this stupid thing.

Let's all just pass it off at forget it ever happened, and future hosts can decide whether you can base on IRC patterns or not.

This is how I've learned to play mafia. Notice seemingly insignificant details, then lynch based upon those. If I'm not allowed to notice these kinds of things, then there isn't much of a point to me playing mafia.

This is how I've learned to play mafia. Notice seemingly insignificant details, then lynch based upon those. If I'm not allowed to notice these kinds of things, then there isn't much of a point to me playing mafia.

1 person's opinion does not equal consensus.

you're entirely allowed to do as you please, as is everyone else playing. whether we choose to acknowledge what others see and say is another matter entirely.

I'm fine with you doing it Ray. All we have to do is make sure any further mafia games say that the mafia can communicate in any way they want. You don't have to quit, there's no real reason to when all that has to be fixed is some wording.

This is how I've learned to play mafia. Notice seemingly insignificant details, then lynch based upon those. If I'm not allowed to notice these kinds of things, then there isn't much of a point to me playing mafia.

It's being allowed by Infection, and is something that I personally feel is wrong with how the host is running it. I'm pissed that it's allowed, but if it's allowed, I can't fault you for doing it. I do feel that it takes away from the game when people are allowing non-game incidents to affect gameplay. It is metagaming, and it's not within the spirit of the game. However, it's not explicitly cheating, so do whatever you want.

@my IRC: I used to log on IRC all the time when BD used to run it. I stopped going because I could never get on after we switched. I do log on now, but it is very so often as Ray pointed out. The only reason I logged on IRC recently is due to this game. There have been comments about this game on IRC, there is no denying that.

Argghhh, that's a shame I already wasted my 2 IRC blocking tactics, as I could've blocked ChaoticCJ from going onto IRC.

I have not been on IRC for the last 2 days, so it would have been a waste.

@Ray: Don’t quit after just 1 storm. The storms are fun; people accusing people, people getting even more suspicious of others. That is what makes the game interesting. It’s all good.


With all that in mind, back to the game.
I think either Ray or Tobias is the protoss Mothership. They are out for one round and there is no stasis. Ray may be accusing me of being mafia because he is protoss. If Tobias dies, and he is Terran-it just makes Ray even more suspicious. Just a thought.

I still find Tobias, Ray, Kurtle, and, Meta all suspicious. I am going to wait to see how this plays out.

@my IRC: I used to log on IRC all the time when BD used to run it. I stopped going because I could never get on after we switched. I do log on now, but it is very so often as Ray pointed out. The only reason I logged on IRC recently is due to this game. There have been comments about this game on IRC, there is no denying that.



I have not been on IRC for the last 2 days, so it would have been a waste.

@Ray: Don’t quit after just 1 storm. The storms are fun; people accusing people, people getting even more suspicious of others. That is what makes the game interesting. It’s all good.


With all that in mind, back to the game.
I think either Ray or Tobias is the protoss Mothership. They are out for one round and there is no stasis. Ray may be accusing me of being mafia because he is protoss. If Tobias dies, and he is Terran-it just makes Ray even more suspicious. Just a thought.

I still find Tobias, Ray, Kurtle, and, Meta all suspicious. I am going to wait to see how this plays out.

Telling you, once you see my role PM and what i can do, you'd do better not to suspect Kurt.

Here's something i wanna question the people, and it reflects to last game a bit...
How many players do you suspect are a mafia on either side? My personal opinion is a 4/4/12 division of the players between mafia1/mafia2/town. this is based solely off of what i know of Meta. and lol at my still posting.

Telling you, once you see my role PM and what i can do, you'd do better not to suspect Kurt.

I still do not entirely trust you, I am sure you can understand-you probably don't trust me 100%. If you do turn out to be one of us(assuming you will get voted out), then I will know Kurt is good, but Meta is gonna have a lot to explain.