We Don't Need No Theme Mafia - Game over, RED wins

I don't know. Just thoughts.

Eh that might make sense, except I think the entire clue is more meant to focus on the killer rather than several mafia members. If so, the cube of safety doesn't really apply to anyone that I see on the list, whereas if it's part of an overall clue to narrow down the suspected mafia list from three to one, then it makes more sense. Still, there are several interpretations that could be made with the clues. I happen to think that Steel or Synthesist are perhaps the most likely suspects, but that's just my opinion, some people may feel differently. For the moment, since there hasn't been a ton of people that have examined my theory, I'll refrain from voting, but I think the list of possible killers is down to three people even if I'm wrongly interpreting the rest of the clue. As for the stretchy part, I'd agree, but as it is about me, that doesn't mean much. XP Too much denial or too little would do pretty much the same thing, so other than noting that I'm not mafia, I'll drop the discussion before it gets any farther, though you should feel free to speculate it if you'd like to.

honestly, i can only think of a vague interpretation of the clues.

Clue 1: BREAKING NEWS : "But where are those good old fashioned values...On which we used to rely?!"
my take on this is more something like 'no matter what, you cannot trust anyone.' trust used to be a big thing with families of old, and anymore that seems to be lacking. so how it applies to the game is don't trust anyone.
yeah, thats kind of a given, given the nature of this game. but the second clue...

Clue 2:BREAKING NEWS : "This news is breaking apart. | There's a single face on the cube of safety. A fourteen or higher shall land you a critical in this game. | Only Wisdom Crystal Ores can form Wisdom Crystals."
i think that the clue is actually three-fold, not four.
1-'The news is breaking apart' could mean someone is tampering with the flow of information, like a hacker is disrupting what gets out; i read that as the news was static and hard to understand. so maybe someone has the ability to alter the clues or the flow of data?
2-the mentioning of a cube makes me think of chance. maybe its ray taunting us with how yesterday people were thinking of relying on chance to lynch someone, maybe it is referring to how the game can be unpredictable, iuno. the main thing i get from the mention of dice is chance/luck. what the number means i cant figure out, but the number must mean something. anyone here familiar with DnD and how their dicerolls play out?
3-this one is my favorite: only wisdom ores can form a wisdom crystal. i gather that this clue means we must work together with what limited knowledge we can gather to form a better sense of the larger picture and win the game.

so yeah. i know that my interpretations of the clues so far arent really helpful, just wanted to get my thoughts out.

Maybe the first sentence indicates that each sentence is to be taken separately, and each refers to a different member of a mafia faction? Then again, that would be giving away the whole faction, which might be too much.

Another thing to note, though this is admittedly stretchy, is that ElectricSix, the only person with a number in his name, is 8, and 6+8 is 14.

That sounds an awful lot like Daku's "PETER'S IN STEELSERAPH SO HE MUST BE SCUM!" claim.

That sounds an awful lot like Daku's "PETER'S IN STEELSERAPH SO HE MUST BE SCUM!" claim.

"Admittedly stretchy"; no one has said anyone must be scum.

That sounds an awful lot like Daku's "PETER'S IN STEELSERAPH SO HE MUST BE SCUM!" claim.

At least we're trying.

At least we're trying.

So because I'm not expressly suggesting all of my ideas, I'm not trying?
Great logic.

Made my mind up.

[VOTE]Synthesist

Made my mind up.

[VOTE]Synthesist

what brought you to this decision?

what brought you to this decision?

I concur with ElectricSix's logic on both the numbers 15,16, and 17. And Synthesist clearly applies to the wisdom ores to crystals hint as well. Only logical deduction to be had to this point

Yeah, I was thinking that too, but wanted to wait to see if any other suspicions came up.
On a random note, is anyone's role name a Star Wars character?

Edit: Then again, by the time I get home tomorrow it'll be well past 5 EST, so I might as well get my vote in while I can.
[vote] Synthesist

[Vote]Synthesist

Could the Wisdom Crystal reference not simply refer to the fact that one must use Wisdom when voting instead of hastily jumping into things as we did last round?

What does your Wisdom tell you, then? I'm all ears.

Could the Wisdom Crystal reference not simply refer to the fact that one must use Wisdom when voting instead of hastily jumping into things as we did last round?

thats how i interpreted the clue. dunno though, im still unsure about what to make of it all.

Guys, I'd like to vote for Synthesist too but
[Vote]xBTAx
I really hope you dont think im mafia for voting for bta, I have nothing against BTA, if i were part of any organization i wouldnt cause this much hassle and not vote with the group.

I need to see better evidence/speculation before I change my vote. Just because Daku is voting as a minority to prove his innocence isn't a good reason...

What does your Wisdom tell you, then? I'm all ears.

Infection voted Daku because of a fail attempt at a claim.
You guys all bandwagoned Infection because of such.

Infection's choice was quite obviously for the town, otherwise he would've gone with lolDaku's SteelSeraph claim and had everyone roll with that. It's nothing unnatural to be suspicious of someone who makes up some half-assed claim at the beginning of the game, especially when it immediately points fingers at another user.

Going with the Synthesist claim Day 1 simply because that's how 1 user interpreted the clue isn't going to get us anywhere. Look at how the first game turned out with our interpretations.

Guys, I'd like to vote for Synthesist too but
[Vote]xBTAx
I really hope you dont think im mafia for voting for bta, I have nothing against BTA, if i were part of any organization i wouldnt cause this much hassle and not vote with the group.

...There are about ~10 people who haven't voted so far. Why BTA?
My Hair is a Bird. Your Logic is Invalid.

Infection voted Daku because of a fail attempt at a claim.
You guys all bandwagoned Infection because of such.

Infection's choice was quite obviously for the town, otherwise he would've gone with lolDaku's SteelSeraph claim and had everyone roll with that. It's nothing unnatural to be suspicious of someone who makes up some half-assed claim at the beginning of the game, especially when it immediately points fingers at another user.

Going with the Synthesist claim Day 1 simply because that's how 1 user interpreted the clue isn't going to get us anywhere. Look at how the first game turned out with our interpretations.

...There are about ~10 people who haven't voted so far. Why BTA?
My Hair is a Bird. Your Logic is Invalid.

But you pointing out all the flaws in our speculation without giving us something to believe you and not vote is stupid. If you are going to criticize, I want to see your own theory.

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honestly, i can only think of a vague interpretation of the clues.

Clue 1: BREAKING NEWS : "But where are those good old fashioned values...On which we used to rely?!"
my take on this is more something like 'no matter what, you cannot trust anyone.' trust used to be a big thing with families of old, and anymore that seems to be lacking. so how it applies to the game is don't trust anyone.
yeah, thats kind of a given, given the nature of this game. but the second clue...

Clue 2:BREAKING NEWS : "This news is breaking apart. | There's a single face on the cube of safety. A fourteen or higher shall land you a critical in this game. | Only Wisdom Crystal Ores can form Wisdom Crystals."
i think that the clue is actually three-fold, not four.
1-'The news is breaking apart' could mean someone is tampering with the flow of information, like a hacker is disrupting what gets out; i read that as the news was static and hard to understand. so maybe someone has the ability to alter the clues or the flow of data?
2-the mentioning of a cube makes me think of chance. maybe its ray taunting us with how yesterday people were thinking of relying on chance to lynch someone, maybe it is referring to how the game can be unpredictable, iuno. the main thing i get from the mention of dice is chance/luck. what the number means i cant figure out, but the number must mean something. anyone here familiar with DnD and how their dicerolls play out?
3-this one is my favorite: only wisdom ores can form a wisdom crystal. i gather that this clue means we must work together with what limited knowledge we can gather to form a better sense of the larger picture and win the game.

so yeah. i know that my interpretations of the clues so far arent really helpful, just wanted to get my thoughts out.

I still tend to think the first one is a clue to who silenced y0shi rather than anything else. If someone else is silenced the next day, perhaps we'll have a better clue as to who was responsible.

As for the second clue, and your first suggestion, that's not a bad idea, but I would guess that at most, they could only tamper with one line of the clue. Any more than that would be too much power.

Your second suggestion isn't bad, a die would make sense. And excluding the fact that there aren't quite enough, a D20 would fit the bill. However, since we don't have 20 players, the critical would have be lower on the scale, or as Ray put it, around 14. Now usually criticals are rare, but good things, they do double the damage. If we're applying that logic to the clue, that would seem to suggest that someone amongst the remaining three is doubly dangerous to the mafia or townies. However, given that it is a clue to the killer, that would seem to imply that it's a mafia member. Or even a step further could be taken, and two of them could be mafia, thus the whole doubling is in effect in a different way. Either way, I would say that interpretation supports my theory so far, just as well as before.

And as for your third suggestion, I believe that could be an accurate viewpoint, we have to choose wisely amongst the three suggested people within or we'll kill a townie. That would follow with the previous ideas suggested. Of course, the reality is that the clue is likely much simpler than we're making it out to be. Ray probably had a very specific idea in mind when he wrote it, so most of this discussion doesn't matter so long as we get the basic ideas he wanted to convey correct. So far I have yet to hear any other reasonable theories as to who the clue might apply to, so while I enjoyed your viewpoints, they don't seem to conflict with my theory very much, if at all, and thus has done very little to change my voting decision.

For the moment, I will vote as the others have, though if someone can provide a suitable logic for why y0shi or SteelSeraph should get my vote, I am willing to change it. I will not change it for anyone else though, because as I said before, I am relatively confident that even if I got most of the meaning wrong with the remaining clue, one of the people above CoB is his killer.

[vote] Synthesist