Are 2 Bonus Items Junk?

I've talked with many people regarding this. Many of my buddies are disappointed to have 2 bonus items. I mean you risk so much to put a 90% potential scroll on your nice item and have it pass (breaking many other equips in the process), and then you see 2 bonuses are you rage.

Basically, I want people's opinions this issue. I know some people are happy with whatever they have, good for you. Others who invest a ton of mesos on equipment aren't so pleased that 3/4 of their old equips are now 2 bonus, not 3 bonus.

Keep in mind a 3 bonus item is FAR better compared to a 2 bonus item. With the extra slot you have BIGGER chances in scoring higher stat % boosts and potentially more stats.

Are 2 bonus items junk?




P.S. Don't bash on stat whoring here. I really don't give a damn about your opinion if you bash on stat whoring*.

It's junk if you're a stat whore, it's fine if you're not?

It would be nice to have 3 but if I have 2, I won't cry over it.

It doesn't matter too much. It's rare to get one useful stat, and to get 3 is even less probable.

yeah 2 is fine for me my MA has gone up like 300 points and as seeing how hard it was to get epic on one item with good stats on 2 then 3 would be fucking horrid.

What about endgame equips? I mean if you're going to cube something for the best possible bonus, why cube a 2 bonus item?

It doesn't matter too much. It's rare to get one useful stat, and to get 3 is even less probable.

I've seen some earrings that have like 18% dex with a combination of 9%, 6%, and 3%. It's more likely to get 18% on a 3 bonus item than a 2 bonus item.

I believe when an item hits unique ranking, previous assorted bonuses that rare and epic give don't show up anymore. So on unique it's more likely to get stat %.

It's junk if you're a stat whore, it's fine if you're not?

It would be nice to have 3 but if I have 2, I won't cry over it.

Exactly this! As long as I don't get INT/Magic Attack on my non-Magician gear, I'm fine with whatever I get.

Just look at my Potentialed Dragon Khanjar, it gives a total of 180 MP, I'm happy with it and will cube it when I get NX. Be happy when you get past the Potentialling, it's the only scary part of this deal. After that, it only gets better.

It does annoy me when I get a 2 bonus item on something valuable, like I did on my Horntail Pendant. The main appeal about 3 bonus items for me is that it's much easier to get stats you like. For example, I would be happy with an item that gave two +6% dex bonuses, but that's easier to achieve on a 3 bonus item. That could potentially (lolpun) save a lot of cubes and you could end up with a third boost that's useful. Thus, what I've decided to do is sell most of my equips (the ones that are easily replaceable like my FS, PAC, and SCG) and hunt or buy items with 3 bonuses. I would rather not risk my valuable items with a 90% scroll just to end up with 2 bonuses.

However, I wouldn't consider 2 bonus items junk. Getting all three bonuses to be useful isn't easy and could cost A LOT of NX.

Exactly this! As long as I don't get INT/Magic Attack on my non-Magician gear, I'm fine with whatever I get.

Just look at my Potentialed Dragon Khanjar, it gives a total of 180 MP, I'm happy with it and will cube it when I get NX. Be happy when you get past the Potentialling, it's the only scary part of this deal. After that, it only gets better.

I know, but many people aren't satisfied with the 2 bonuses. Any existing stats on the item CAN be outclassed by a clean item with 3 bonus.

Consider a 12 atk PAC.

Let's say 12 atk is worth about 9%, okay.

But with on a 2 bonus pac, the max possible is 12 Atk, 12% stat. A 21-27% lvl 71+ clean cape far outclasses the Pink Adv. Cape.

It does annoy me when I get a 2 bonus item on something valuable, like I did on my Horntail Pendant. The main appeal about 3 bonus items for me is that it's much easier to get stats you like. For example, I would be happy with an item that gave two +6% dex bonuses, but that's easier to achieve on a 3 bonus item. That could potentially (lolpun) save a lot of cubes and you could end up with a third boost that's useful. Thus, what I've decided to do is sell most of my equips (the ones that are easily replaceable like my FS, PAC, and SCG) and hunt or buy items with 3 bonuses. I would rather not risk my valuable items with a 90% scroll just to end up with 2 bonuses.

However, I wouldn't consider 2 bonus items junk. Getting all three bonuses to be useful isn't easy and could cost A LOT of NX.

I know what you mean. It is costing a lot of NX right now for my 3 bonus lvl 50 item to hit 12% dex. Right now its even sitting at 8% dex. >__>

I don't think it's a huge deal if you have 2 or 3 bonuses, cause at the end of the day, you still have one freaking godly equip that totally outclasses anything that existed before this patch =/. It's just that one is slightly better than the other if you want more stats, just like it was before with scrolled equips. I mean I'd love an 8% dex overall for my ranger, and I'd be happy with just that.

But anyways, from your posts, you seem to already have the preconception that a 3 bonus is better than a 2 anyways =/. So what are you asking if you're trying to prove that 3 is better?

Also:

Are 2 bonus items junk?

P.S. Don't bash on stat whoring here. I really don't give a damn about your opinion.

Just wanted to point out that these statements contradict each other.

I don't think it's a huge deal if you have 2 or 3 bonuses, cause at the end of the day, you still have one freaking godly equip that totally outclasses anything that existed before this patch =/. It's just that one is slightly better than the other if you want more stats, just like it was before with scrolled equips. I mean I'd love an 8% dex overall for my ranger, and I'd be happy with just that.

But anyways, from your posts, you seem to already have the preconception that a 3 bonus is better than a 2 anyways =/. So what are you asking if you're trying to prove that 3 is better?

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Just wanted to point out that these statements contradict each other.

Actually, I was hoping I could get opinions from stat whores about this topic. I figured if most stat whores don't care about 2 bonuses, why should I? I might change my mind lol.

And how do the statements contradict each other? I'm simply asking if 2 bonus items are junk. LOL, why I bash on stat whoring anyway? I am a stat whore.

Furthermore, a 2 bonus equip might outclass anything BEFORE the patch. But it does not necessarily mean that it will outclass a 3 bonus equip AFTER the patch provided enough NX for rerolling stats. We're talking about NOW, not then.

Basically: Settle for a 2 stat till you can replace it with a 3 stat.

While we're on this topic, can I remind you guys to keep record of your cubing so that we can have concrete evidence if 2stat can be upgraded to 3?

The cost of cubing has made me reconsider investing too much in any equip that doesn't have good potential to begin with. It's much cheaper to scroll an equip that's already Epic and has 3 potential slots than to scroll a godly equip and then try to cube it to perfection, and possibly end up disappointed. Of course, it'll be a while before dropped Epic and Unique equips really start to show up.

Yeah, I'm not gonna cube 2-potential equips unless they're really special to me. Might as well raise the odds of getting good stats by cubing stuff with 3 slots.

Just a question of personal standards really. It's undeniable that stat-wise a potential item with 3 bonuses has the potential to outclass one with 2 bonuses given boundless NX, it's up to the individual how much that really matters to them. The vast majority don't have this kind of funding, so are often happy with any amount of +%mainstat regardless of where it comes from. Random anecdote, I sold a +3% allstat cape (with random +DEF) with only 2 bonuses on it for 50m and got a comment along the lines of "+3% all stat for 50m gg" which seemed to imply to me that I had underpriced it and someone would actually pay more than 50m for it, even though I personally didn't see much merit in the cape seeing how easy 3 bonuses was to find on a cape.

In some cases, it's just not feasible to just grab another item and try potentialling it again though. Take rare to irreplaceable items like well scrolled high end elemental staves and dragon khanjars. You just spent an hour or two psyching yourself up to potential scroll it, and it worked. You glass it and it only has 2 bonuses. Is that now a totally rubbish item that needs replacing ASAP? I personally don't think it would be, given how difficult a replacement would be to get.

It's pretty addicting to keep on cubing and scrolling on what you don't like, it's all money for nexon.
I'd be satisfied if I just get at least one decent bonus I could actually use. Most of the rare and pain in the neck items to make, it might just be better to keep scrolling and cubing it once it you passed a potential scroll on it.

Who would really want to keep going through countless amounts time pieces and mesos to get 3 bonuses on a reverse item? Of course, the very funded players wouldn't mind that, but I'm not one of them. Though stuff like zakum/scar/targa hats are easily scrolled and is disposable.

an important question I could really used cleared up is lets say I get sword earings with 3 stats and they're all meh, when I cube it changes the stats completely right? so If I keep cubing them they'll eventually be godly right? as in 6% x 3 or somthing

Thing is though... say the odds are 1/10 that you get a good bonus.

That means that to get a single good bonus, on a 2-bonus item, is around 19%.
To get a single good bonus on a 3-bonus item is bumped up to 27%.

Getting 2 good bonuses on a 2-bonus item is 1%.
Getting 2 good bonuses on a 3-bonus item is 2.7%.

Getting 3 good bonuses on a 2-bonus item is impossible.

Cutting that 100 Miracle Cubes down to 37 for 2 good bonuses seems to be well worth almost any extra cost on the base item to get 3-potentials.

Of course it's possible to get good bonuses on something with 2 spots, it's just less likely. (and my estimate of 1/10 is probably not correct)

an important question I could really used cleared up is lets say I get sword earings with 3 stats and they're all meh, when I cube it changes the stats completely right? so If I keep cubing them they'll eventually be godly right? as in 6% x 3 or somthing

Pretty much. Given unlimited NX, 9% x 3 is plausable.

Are these worth cubing?

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I can imagine a level 71+ cape outclassing the PAC. Especially one with 21-27% bonus.

My weapon isn't even finished. I think that would warrant replacement, especially since reverse weapons can easily be perfectly scrolled to 13x Attack range.

I'm not sure on belt. It's too hard to replace :x.

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