2010-07-23, 12:48 AM
windia just killed chaos zakum, i hope steve or alex will post ss
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Chaos Zakum, how hard is it?
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2010-07-23, 12:55 AM
variety Wrote:windia just killed chaos zakum, i hope steve or alex will post ss I hope to because I wanna know what they did, we have noticed that SD should start on left cause the lightting disables SD. Maybe take down dispel arm first too.
2010-07-23, 01:05 AM
I didn't take any screenshots, it was sort of disappointing after arms are dead. Potion lock is dispellable and holy shield preventable. As long as ranged can survive without hyper body after threaten, it's a piece of cake. Both runs took 45 min, whereas the first with half the attackers appling just before first body and 2nd run with just me and a hero for mob control. 2nd run is actually faster considering I didn't summon until a minute or two after we enter, whereas I rushed 1st run. Like 13 deaths first run and only 4-5 the second.
Both runs dropped 3 helms each, and the usual zakum skillbooks. 2nd run dropped a reg enchancement scroll. I let the other people loot and got a stick instead.
2010-07-23, 01:09 AM
Jellyflower Wrote:I didn't take any screenshots, it was sort of disappointing after arms are dead. Potion lock is dispellable and holy shield preventable. As long as ranged can survive without hyper body after threaten, it's a piece of cake. Both runs took 45 min, whereas the first with half the attackers appling just before first body and 2nd run with just me and a hero for mob control. 2nd run is actually faster considering I didn't summon until a minute or two after we enter, whereas I rushed 1st run. Like 13 deaths first run and only 4-5 the second. What is your method of take, because dispel for bishops is incredibly gey and annoying....Which arms did u kill first,2nd,3rd, etc.
2010-07-23, 01:12 AM
Make them wear hp gear and hug the bottom arms. Even if they get dispelled they should be able to take touch damage no problem.
2010-07-23, 01:15 AM
Jellyflower Wrote:Make them wear hp gear and hug the bottom arms. Even if they get dispelled they should be able to take touch damage no problem. ahh good idea, so you guys went arm 5>>>3>>1>>2>>than so on?
2010-07-24, 10:05 AM
what would you say is the min hp for each part, or rather what damage were you guys taking?
2010-07-24, 01:06 PM
Pardon me if I don't have enough SS's. This were the Windian First Gen(i.e. JellyFlower's) runs from last night. Also, the SS's provided here are across two different runs interchangeably. I'll try to record a video sometime soon. HD is a must.
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2010-07-24, 05:39 PM
Hmm, ~7k touch damage from the body with Threaten? I thought it'd be a lot higher even with the threaten reduction, but glad to see that anyone can pretty much take it to the face so as long as Threaten is up 100% of the time, and they HP washed enough. Also that IS rather disappointing about the "No Pot Lock"...
Also...clockwise rotation on the arms persay?
2010-07-24, 05:52 PM
Well it seems that for us ranged characters we've been doing clockwise rotation, however after the bottom left two arms die the warriors move left and start working on arms 5 and 6?(the bottom right two).
2010-07-24, 11:59 PM
Moar Windian action.
first run
2nd
Died 2 times, used 1 wheel on first run. Was so hectic at arms on first run.
2010-07-25, 10:17 AM
Most bishops have enough Hp + HP gear to survive touch damage from the Arms. Also prioritize the Arms. As for Horntail....Godspeed.
2010-07-25, 07:14 PM
Hug me Broans and let us work together to take down this monster!
/as if that's gunna happen Boss isn't hard enough if you ask me. By the way does anyone wanna remark on "20k explosions by Pachuriku"s that Fiel mentioned? Does that mean if the explode in my face lol20k damage to me?
2010-07-25, 07:20 PM
Kalovale Wrote:Moar Windian action. O_O A zakum monster card..is that rare?
2010-07-25, 07:33 PM
OB3LISK Wrote:Boss isn't hard enough if you ask me. By the way does anyone wanna remark on "20k explosions by Pachuriku"s that Fiel mentioned? Does that mean if the explode in my face lol20k damage to me? I'm guessing it's just like the bombs at Pianus. Anybody want to verify?
2010-07-25, 07:34 PM
Dark Link Wrote:Hmm, ~7k touch damage from the body with Threaten? I thought it'd be a lot higher even with the threaten reduction, but glad to see that anyone can pretty much take it to the face so as long as Threaten is up 100% of the time, and they HP washed enough.I hope you mean 7k with HB, but if it dispells as much as people keep saying then most ranged seem like they're SOL. It's not like everyone can HP wash 100 times, I can only get up to 5k with the 20 AP resets I got and I can't wash many times after that regardless. It may seem easy for the super-awesome bossing guilds, but do the plebians have any chance at taking this thing down?
2010-07-25, 09:06 PM
FanaticRat Wrote:I hope you mean 7k with HB, but if it dispells as much as people keep saying then most ranged seem like they're SOL. It's not like everyone can HP wash 100 times, I can only get up to 5k with the 20 AP resets I got and I can't wash many times after that regardless. It may seem easy for the super-awesome bossing guilds, but do the plebians have any chance at taking this thing down? You can get ap resets on all of your characters that are lvl 30+ and transfer them through the cash shop to your corsair.
2010-07-25, 09:40 PM
Getting 30+ AP resets is irrelevant if I couldn't afford the INT gears to wash 30 times to begin with. Not to mention you'd have to power level a ton in a short amount of time (while powerleveling ring mules to begin with) and even then it wouldn't be enough AP resets to take me up to 7k base HP at a reasonable level--in fact, I don't think I'd hit it at all.
EDIT: Okay, perhaps I'm making this too centered around myself, so let me try to pose this a different way: how is the average mapler going to have a shot at taking on these bosses if they have ridiculous HP requirements, especially those who make ranged characters? Or rather, the average mapler who is unwilling or unable to shell out tons of in-game and real life money in order to gain a good amount of HP? Now, yes, there are the free AP resets but A. these may not be enough to take the character in question all the way to the required amount of HP, B. the character in question may not have the time to use all of them in the allotted time frame, C. the character may be made after the event with the free AP resets, or D. the character may not have enough INT to wash all the way to begin with. We talk of characters having 20 ATT wgs, 21 Stat Helms, 7 ATT PACs, and 7k base HP like it's nothing, but a lot of people, especially unfunded, can't just make that kind of dough to afford all that--hell, I have a Corsair buddy of mine who still didn't have a dep star or a good overall at level 122 and I had to make an overall for him and I'm going to buy him a MoN just so he can use a Concerto (in fact he didn't have the money for that either so I gave him my old one). There are far more characters than those that post in damage flaunting threads and whatnot, and what I'm saying is, why should unfunded players--no, anyone who's not super-funded--not even have a chance at fighting a boss ever? That's poor design if you ask me. The best of the best should have the best chance at taking on bosses, not the only chance. |
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