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So I just saw 2 ss'es of 2 diff runs, both being less than 5mins before the whole squad was wiped out. The problem they posted was that dispel was every 3-5 secs. Leaving no time for bishops to heal, because they constantly have to MG. So unless GMS gets the auto skill item, will czak be unbeatable? Or is there a way to get through the arms.
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I had absolutely no idea that potions even exist in MapleStory.
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2147483647 Wrote:I had absolutely no idea that potions even exist in MapleStory.
You were supposed to wait for someone to point that out.
OT: A serious group will beat it on 1st or at most 2nd try.
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2147483647 Wrote:I had absolutely no idea that potions even exist in MapleStory.
Sorry I should've been more clear. When the people were being seduced, the mages were busy MGing. Your post was completely unnecessary >.>
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Probably because the groups had no strategy whatsoever.
It really doesn't seem that hard.
Kill the Seduce Arm, Kill the Dispel Arm, and isn't there zombify? Just don't have stupid bishops.
Other then that, it's just a zakum with lots of HP...
If someone can solo a normal zakum, 30 people can beat Chaos Zakum.
Horntail? That's a different story.
You just need people that don't fail at their job.
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ItzTaylor Wrote:Probably because the groups had no strategy whatsoever.
It really doesn't seem that hard.
Kill the Seduce Arm, Kill the Dispel Arm, and isn't there zombify? Just don't have stupid bishops.
Other then that, it's just a zakum with lots of HP...
If someone can solo a normal zakum, 30 people can beat Chaos Zakum.
Horntail? That's a different story.
You just need people that don't fail at their job.
Zombify doesn't come into play until bodies. This is my bishop bias here, but not bringing bishops would be a bad idea, especially with the No Potions/Potion Lock curse coming into play with Zombify starting second body (It's really res that matters, though)
I think it's not as easy as it looks.
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ItzTaylor Wrote:Just don't have stupid bishops.
iAmFear Wrote:This is my bishop bias here, but not bringing bishops would be a bad idea
All Bishops are stupid?
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29 warriors and 1 bishop. Solved ^_^
You'd never have to worry about pot lock/zombify/Stun after the Curse Arm Goes down.
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If Potion Lock can be dispelled there's no reason it should conflict with zombify and create a problem. If it can't be dispelled, then ya, that seems pretty hard, to where death is almost unavoidable.
Phoenix Wrote:You'd never have to worry about pot lock/zombify/Stun after the Curse Arm Goes down.
Thought so.
EDIT: Sorry for the double poast   . Punish me.
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Phoenix Wrote:29 warriors and 1 bishop. Solved ^_^
You'd never have to worry about pot lock/zombify/Stun after the Curse Arm Goes down.
i agree! but make sure the warriors all have 30k hp ^.^
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Highest hit I saw during the arms was 8.5k. Unless your DK is totally on the ball (especially considering there's no sound/animation for dispel), many ranged are bound to die around then.
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KaidaTan Wrote:Highest hit I saw during the arms was 8.5k. Unless your DK is totally on the ball (especially considering there's no sound/animation for dispel), many ranged are bound to die around then.
Hug a paladin?
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It's as hard as a rock.
Sorry. Just had to say that.
Does Awakening/Hero's Will remove Zombify? Well, not that it really matters as long as the bishop dispels on time. But during Seduce...wait a minute. Only the body zombifies. =.=
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You probably saw my SS on basil. The arms did 8k+ or so and the ranged group got raped. We're gonna try again soon.
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HeroDDC Wrote:You probably saw my SS on basil. The arms did 8k+ or so and the ranged group got raped. We're gonna try again soon.
Same happened for us. We went in for fun with 7 attackers, 3 of which were level 200 ranged. They all died upon a dispel + attack at the same time. A few seduces later, the other warriors died and the lolShadower was left soloing himself
From what I noticed, seduce only pushes you right but you guys probably already knew that from KMS.
Note: Chaos Zak in on CH11 BTW, not CH10.
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ItzTaylor Wrote:Just don't have stupid bishops.
You just need people that don't fail at their job.
Wow! Unnecessary! Just because mages don't PWN the big bosses doesn't mean they're useless. Everyone should have equal opportunity at things like this. People who are not used to a new boss in the game doesn't mean they fail at their job. This one was meant to be harder than normal Zak, obviously. I can't even imagine a chaos HT run. People wanted more high level content, well here ya go!
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TaliaNCo Wrote:Wow! Unnecessary! Just because mages don't PWN the big bosses doesn't mean they're useless. Everyone should have equal opportunity at things like this. People who are not used to a new boss in the game doesn't mean they fail at their job. This one was meant to be harder than normal Zak, obviously. I can't even imagine a chaos HT run. People wanted more high level content, well here ya go! read what he said man, he is talking about people who don't play their type of char well. There is a big difference in someone who knows how to play their class very well, and someone who is clueles about the roll they play in a bossing situation.
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I went in with a full capable squad. The dispel was seriously crazy.
I think we lasted 10 mins before we were down to a handful of nls/bms/bishes and all the warriors. Downed 1 arm.
I don't think those saying how easy it is appreciate how much time getting dispelled wastes. Every class has something they need to rebuff and it adds up to a lot of time.
Auto-skill pets will make it infinitely easier.
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Cyanne Wrote:Hug a paladin?
Lol, I used Threaten so an NL could loot that thing the boogies drop on first body.
It has this slightly annoying disadvantage of only working 50% of the time, and not telling you when it works - so it's inevitable that it'll wear off sometimes. I mean, failing 5-6 times in a row is not uncommon.
On the other hand, Dispel doesn't affect it.
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Seeing how hard it is to beat Chaos Zakum, Chaos HornTail must be literally impossible to defeat. Prolly even harder than PB.
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