Regarding critical damage with the revamp

It's 70%, and you just repeated what she was trying to say.

The skill description says 10 x 6%, and there are no crits at under 10 combos. Where is the extra 10% coming from? Is the skill description wrong and it should be 10 x 7% ?
The only way to know for sure would be to do a painstaking analysis of a long stretch of video with high combo.
Or else someone should do what Cyanne said just to see if this is true. Any non-crits at all would mean that the current 70% base assumption is wrong. Too bad Machlear's are so rare.
Has this 70% has ever been proven, or is it just based on the one post in this thread from last summer:
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=16709

The skill description says 10 x 6%, and there are no crits at under 10 combos. Where is the extra 10% coming from? Is the skill description wrong and it should be 10 x 7% ?
The only way to know for sure would be to do a painstaking analysis of a long stretch of video with high combo.
Or else someone should do what Cyanne said just to see if this is true. Any non-crits at all would mean that the current 70% base assumption is wrong. Too bad Machlear's are so rare.
Has this 70% has ever been proven, or is it just based on the one post in this thread from last summer:
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=16709

Testing doesn't necessarily have to be done in gMS, does it?

The skill description says 10 x 6%, and there are no crits at under 10 combos. Where is the extra 10% coming from? Is the skill description wrong and it should be 10 x 7% ?
The only way to know for sure would be to do a painstaking analysis of a long stretch of video with high combo.
Or else someone should do what Cyanne said just to see if this is true. Any non-crits at all would mean that the current 70% base assumption is wrong. Too bad Machlear's are so rare.
Has this 70% has ever been proven, or is it just based on the one post in this thread from last summer:
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=16709

It's been tested so many times. 70% crit is what arans currently have.

The skill description says 10 x 6%, and there are no crits at under 10 combos. Where is the extra 10% coming from? Is the skill description wrong and it should be 10 x 7% ?
The only way to know for sure would be to do a painstaking analysis of a long stretch of video with high combo.
Or else someone should do what Cyanne said just to see if this is true. Any non-crits at all would mean that the current 70% base assumption is wrong. Too bad Machlear's are so rare.
Has this 70% has ever been proven, or is it just based on the one post in this thread from last summer:
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=16709

Arans have an extra 10% base crit when the critical skill is active. It's 10% + 10x6%.

0-9 combo: 0% crit
10-19 combo: 16% crit @ 110% damage
20-29 combo: 22% crit @ 120% damage
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100+ combo: 70% crit @ 200% crit damage

It 'feels' correct, if I have a machlear I would have confirmed it easily. I guess you just have to take our words for it.

It 'feels' correct, if I have a machlear I would have confirmed it easily. I guess you just have to take our words for it.

We have been taking words for it for almost a good year.

It's been tested so many times. 70% crit is what arans currently have.

I would be declined to believe that someone put such an enormous effort into testing it without even posting it publicly. If it's out there, ss or didn't happen.

0-9 combo: 0% crit
10-19 combo: 16% crit @ 110% damage
20-29 combo: 22% crit @ 120% damage
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100+ combo: 70% crit @ 200% crit damage

It 'feels' correct, if I have a machlear I would have confirmed it easily. I guess you just have to take our words for it.

What sort of testing would need to be done. My aran has crit ring + a machlear, and I could get someone to SE me. I just don't like using it except for display purposes as I don't wanna bring down the durability % and end up paying to fix it T.T

What sort of testing would need to be done. My aran has crit ring + a machlear, and I could get someone to SE me. I just don't like using it except for display purposes as I don't wanna bring down the durability % and end up paying to fix it T.T

The cost of durability item fixing has been lowered iirc.
You could get SE and prove us all correct/wrong.

What sort of testing would need to be done.

Whether 100+ combo crit with Machlear + Crit Ring + SE is 90% or 100% - that is, do you ever do noncrits.

The cost of durability item fixing has been lowered iirc.
You could get SE and prove us all correct/wrong.

Not yet, it'll still full cost right now =/

The repair costs were lowered by 90% in kMS though, so a full repair in gMS would cost 4.2mil in the next patch or two probably.

What sort of testing would need to be done. My aran has crit ring + a machlear, and I could get someone to SE me. I just don't like using it except for display purposes as I don't wanna bring down the durability % and end up paying to fix it T.T

Scenario 1: 70% Base Crit + 15% SE + 10% Ring + 5% Machlear = 100% Crit rate
Scenario 2: 60% Base Crit + 15% SE + 10% Ring + 5% Machlear = 90% Crit rate

About 10minutes of keyboard smashing should yield a fair confirmation.

Not yet, it'll still full cost right now =/

The repair costs were lowered by 90% in kMS though, so a full repair in gMS would cost 4.2mil in the next patch or two probably.

The low level explorer ones are cheap as hell, like 10k max.

And for DRPQ durability, is that true? If there is, do you have a source? Cause i'd much rather keep my machlear than sell it (Btw, anyone got a rough estimate on how much the machlear equates to compared to a normal 6 and a fast 5 PA in terma of weapon attack under the scenarios i.e. attacking boss, due to it's crit ability, etc)

Edit: And i'll test out the machlear thing later, but gonna have to take my word on it that I see all crits or some crits.

Edit2: Zero noncrits once combo hit 100+

Edit2: Zero noncrits once combo hit 100+

Oh well. That settles it, I guess. Useful info until BigBang.

Looks like it's multiplicative now, unless PDRate isn't doing what it's supposed to.

Level 1 Arrow Blow (143%)

186 * 1.43 * 0.9 * 1.5 = 359
186 * (1.43 + 0.5) * 0.9 = 323

Will retest when I get Iron Arrow.

Yeah, we determined that it was multiplicative in some other thread.

Yeah, we determined that it was multiplicative in some other thread.

Actually, it was proved to be multiplicative on mages only, additive on physical attacks, this was a recent change. And a rather interesting one, in fact.

Actually, it was proved to be multiplicative on mages only, additive on physical attacks, this was a recent change. And a rather interesting one, in fact.

No, it happened to both at the same time. People watching videos without paying attention to the version the video was made in thought it was only for mages.

No, it happened to both at the same time. People watching videos without paying attention to the version the video was made in thought it was only for mages.

Magicians always had their criticals boost their damage multiplicatively, though. x.x

No, it happened to both at the same time. People watching videos without paying attention to the version the video was made in thought it was only for mages.

Well, just have a look into the new UI bar. That's basically a good indicative of the version. And sincerely, looking at a Nigth Lord doing 11k damage on his biggest hit, and 11.5k with critical... Was quite clear.

Well, just have a look into the new UI bar. That's basically a good indicative of the version. And sincerely, looking at a Nigth Lord doing 11k damage on his biggest hit, and 11.5k with critical... Was quite clear.

Version as in the difference between .326 and .327. The change happened only in .327. You can't tell what version it is by the UI.

Magicians always had their criticals boost their damage multiplicatively, though. x.x

Magicians don't have %s listed for their skills right now, so all their skills are basically doing 100%. Once their skills get changed to %s instead of base attacks, there shouldn't be any difference between magic and physical in terms of how crits work.