kMS videos after revamp.

No, but still, if we're assuming he's an above-average player, and I compare the above-average 173 LOLFP who soloed Zakum and Papulatus with videos showing 350kish Paralyzes, and give said LOLFP the 1.25x Ele bonus we have in GMS, that damage still comes nowhere close to what this kid is dishing out.

Eh, you're probably right and I'm just jumping the gun. But it's so hard to tell what's super strong anymore with all classes easily dealing hundreds of thousands to millions of damage per hit. It doesn't help that KMST is still messing with the skill tables as well .

I just don't know what is what anymore, that's all. 380k looks like the new 38k to me after a few videos/screenshots.

No, but still, if we're assuming he's an above-average player, and I compare the above-average 173 LOLFP who soloed Zakum and Papulatus with videos showing 350kish Paralyzes, and give said LOLFP the 1.25x Ele bonus we have in GMS, that damage still comes nowhere close to what this kid is dishing out.

Eh, you're probably right and I'm just jumping the gun. But it's so hard to tell what's super strong anymore with all classes easily dealing hundreds of thousands to millions of damage per hit. It doesn't help that KMST is still messing with the skill tables as well .

Can i ask for a link to this f/p video? I've been really eager to see some f/p videos but can't find any.

Was Critical ever multiplicative??

Crit for Evan has always been multiplicative. That's what makes the Critical Magic skill so much better than warrior folks initially think.

Crit for Evan has always been multiplicative. That's what makes the Critical Magic skill so much better than warrior folks initially think.

I see. I never had the NX to afford the book. How does it work in conjunction with SE?

Hah, the fact that it says 'Guard' over his head is cool.

What's not cool, though, is 3 numbers coming out of a skill that clearly hits once. I understand it works beneficially for the sake of Crit, but Nexon's newest trend of doing this is stupid.

Agreed, i dont like that either...
It bothers me even more with Shadowers now, it looks so weird that you hit a monster more then once with assaulter.
I´d rather have one massive hit with assaulter instead of it being divided in several hits, it just doesnt look right.

Agreed, i dont like that either...
It bothers me even more with Shadowers now, it looks so weird that you hit a monster more then once with assaulter.
I´d rather have one massive hit with assaulter instead of it being divided in several hits, it just doesnt look right.

Think of it as...

[video=youtube;X_rbv3dA8hs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_rbv3dA8hs[/video]

...just the image-splitting-thingy part. Oh fine. Whatever. A super-fast version of this that is so fast it looks like it's just a single hit. That's what the 3 hit Assaulter is like...I guess.

I see. I never had the NX to afford the book. How does it work in conjunction with SE?

It is also multiplicative with SE. When I was around lvl 85, I was training the Evan at Red Kents. A BM guildy was bored and came by to be an SE mule for a bit. My damage on crit hits was absolutely amazing. SE and Crit magic stack wonderfully. I was doing 8-12k on normal hits, but hitting 16-21k on Crits. (totally from memory, wish i had SS to back it up. I'll look around to see if I have one.)

*EDIT: I only have level-up SS from that training era. But I can definitely vouch for Multiplicative Criticial for Evan. I was constantly wondering why i was doing more damage on screen than I could calculate on paper. Multiplicative Crit + Multiplicative MP 'zerk (the 10% bonus) were the factors that I didn't include in my calcs. (truthfully, I don't see how an Additive crit works at all. But then again, I only play mages.)

All magical damage was multiplicative, this includes bonuses such as SE, Thorns, and Adventurer rings. Post- big bang is probably additive now, as us Magician based classes actually have a range for additive critical bonuses to be based off of.

I don't know if stacked bonuses are added or multiplied though, by that I mean I don't know if the critical bonus an Evan gets when using a critical ring is calculated as

1.5 x 1.1

or

1.5+1.1

1.5 x 1.1

^This. When I made my damage calculator, accounting for damage this way is what made my numbers come out correctly. SE stacks this way too.

So.. who are the new best DPS/DPM dealers?

Maybe, a Top 5?

So.. who are the new best DPS/DPM dealers?

Maybe, a Top 5?

Its far to early to tell, Critical still has some figuring out to do, theres skills that can ignore defense which is now much more important, Kms is STILL playing around with skills, etc etc.

http://tvpot.daum.net/brand/ClipView.do?...cview_clip

This shadower at level 175 is already hitting damage cap with assassinate lol. They need to raise the damage cap to atleast 2mil for them.


http://tvpot.daum.net/brand/ClipView.do?...cview_clip

Another BM video. But the damage still seems very random so probably not the latest patch. I see around 13-18k regular hits and criticals going as high as 31k. I can only notice 2 arrow impacts, one for hurricane and the other for final attack. Can't see anything different for vengeance or mortal blow, maybe someone else can catch something.

http://tvpot.daum.net/brand/ClipView.do?...cview_clip

This shadower at level 175 is already hitting damage cap with assassinate lol. They need to raise the damage cap to atleast 2mil for them.


http://tvpot.daum.net/brand/ClipView.do?...cview_clip

Another BM video. But the damage still seems very random so probably not the latest patch. I see around 13-18k regular hits and criticals going as high as 31k. I can only notice 2 arrow impacts, one for hurricane and the other for final attack. Can't see anything different for vengeance or mortal blow, maybe someone else can catch something.

I believe mortal blow was made so that all arrows have a chance to OHKO if the monster is at 30% hp, so no arrow animation methinks.

Vengeance no one sees because it's against an archer's nature to run up to a monster and get LOLTOUCHDAMAGEZ, which i believe is the way it activates o_O

So.. who are the new best DPS/DPM dealers?

Maybe, a Top 5?

In no particular order:

Corsairs
Night Lords
Arans
Bowmasters/Marksmen
Vipers

BM and MM are all about the same now anyways, so it's technically 6 classes in the top 5. Why Vipers? Because Demolition is sickeningly strong with complete defense piercing and they seem cool enough to snag a DPS spot now.

If Enrage and Advance Combo work they way they appear to at face value, Heroes do 2016% per Brave Slash. I wouldn't count them out.

I'm hoping that there won't be enough of a DPS difference between classes for there to be a need for such a list, and post-revamp, your gear will matter much more than what class you are.

[video=youtube;0mxLUns_uDM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mxLUns_uDM[/video]
A Hero using Enrage!

[video=youtube;0mxLUns_uDM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mxLUns_uDM[/video]
A Hero using Enrage!

wt'f HAX

[video=youtube;0mxLUns_uDM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mxLUns_uDM[/video]
A Hero using Enrage!

holy shet much ? -_- can i slap those faces who said heroes are weak now ?

Level 195 Bishop at O5. This one appears to be a regular Bishop and not ridiculously godly like that level 163 one.

[video=youtube;Er4qlbgOzBg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er4qlbgOzBg&[/video]