2010-07-08, 06:34 PM
The prices themselves were never worth anything. Odd question wording is odd.
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| TO THE GROUND | 26 | 30.59% | |
| won't be touched with a 10 foot pole | 2 | 2.35% | |
| a little but will still have a place in the market | 21 | 24.71% | |
| DERP DERP DERP | 36 | 42.35% | |
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What do you think the prices of equips will be worth after potential scrolls hit gMS?
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2010-07-08, 06:34 PM
The prices themselves were never worth anything. Odd question wording is odd.
2010-07-08, 07:25 PM
KaidaTan Wrote:The prices themselves were never worth anything. Odd question wording is odd. I'd rather bank now on some of my equipment and get back say a billion than to wait and see that value of 1 billion falll down to ~800m or lower.
2010-07-08, 08:02 PM
About the disgaea example:
All I'm saying is, the levels of all monsters went up, and our item power did as well. They're creating new end-game content. Instead of releasing stronger monsters, they're making regular monsters overpowered and giving us the means by which to increase our own strength sufficiently. I'm not saying we'll be doing billions of damage, just that our damage will scale properly - right now there's barely a difference between someone who's 170 and 180, damage wise, but with +% bonuses, there will be.
2010-07-08, 09:04 PM
Wait so 110 weapons will be worth using? I may just add that last 8 STR and make myself a Dragonfire Revolver if that's the case...
2010-07-08, 09:47 PM
CrossMyHeart Wrote:How does the level of the equip change how the system adds stats? Basically it looks up potentials in a huge table, based on the item's level. If an item's level 1~30 it gets 1st job stats. If it's level 31~70, it gets 2nd job stats. If it's 71~120 it gets 3rd job stats. If it's 121~200 it gets 4th job stats. The particular stats depends on a) luck b) quality of identification Quality means - is it rare, epic, unique. Luck means - well, how lucky are you? It'll randomly add different amounts. So, for example Level 80 item (3rd job): identified as unique 3% str, 6% str, 9% str are the possibilities. If it were level 60 (2nd job), identified as unique 2% str, 4% str, 6% str are the possibilities If it was again level 80, but only identified as rare, then you wouldn't get any better than 3% str. Eg. ![]() Level 75, Unique id'd (yellow outline - rare are blue, epic are purple) 9% and 6% are both possibilities here.
2010-07-08, 09:48 PM
CrossMyHeart Wrote:How does the level of the equip change how the system adds stats? Higher level equipment = chance of more stats and better stats. Pretty straight forward.
2010-07-08, 10:30 PM
Nexon's going to make a boatload of money off people resetting their identifies on their godly gear until they get +% dex/+% dex/+% dex, etc.
2010-07-08, 10:37 PM
Stereo Wrote:Basically it looks up potentials in a huge table, based on the item's level. Oh wow. 45M for a 21% increase from one item? Wow... Just... Wow...
2010-07-08, 11:27 PM
Herborist Wrote:Oh wow. 45M for a 21% increase from one item? Wow... Just... Wow... You gotta play some D2 to understand where this is coming from. All equipment that can drop will have a chance to come with an unidentified status, which means oodles of chances to get clean equipment with stuff like this for free; thousands of equipment are dropping every day so it's bound to be quite a handful of such godly blessed equipment out there. +stars are of course an entirely different story.
2010-07-08, 11:49 PM
IllegallySane Wrote:You gotta play some D2 to understand where this is coming from. All equipment that can drop will have a chance to come with an unidentified status, which means oodles of chances to get clean equipment with stuff like this for free; thousands of equipment are dropping every day so it's bound to be quite a handful of such godly blessed equipment out there. +stars are of course an entirely different story. I've played Diablo II, if that's what you're referring to, and finding godly equipment there is completely different because that's how the game started out. They're introducing a system that'll jump everyone's DPS by huge amounts - everyone's. Item prices can only go down with such an influx of affordable equipment that's beyond godly by our standards. Also, I just didn't know to what extent an item could be scrolled with the potential system; I play the game for skills and classes so I've spent my time researching new classes. How does the earrings have multiple +% stat bonuses? I thought rating worked differently. Do they stack?
2010-07-08, 11:59 PM
Herborist Wrote:How does the earrings have multiple +% stat bonuses? I thought rating worked differently. Do they stack? When you rate an item it gets 2 or 3 bonuses, they can be to the same thing (eg. % dex). Once you've got them you can either erase them (1.5k NX) or leave it. No way to "upgrade". Used to be more in testing (pics of items with up to 5 bonuses) but as far as I know it's always 2-3 now.
2010-07-09, 12:15 AM
Stereo Wrote:When you rate an item it gets 2 or 3 bonuses, they can be to the same thing (eg. % dex). Once you've got them you can either erase them (1.5k NX) or leave it. No way to "upgrade". Thanks for the info. So how does rating work? The star system, that is.
2010-07-09, 12:27 AM
Use a yellow scroll -> if fail, GG -> if pass, hooray random stats -> use another yellow scroll -> chance is 10% less if you passed -> if fail, GG -> if pass, hooray random stats.
2010-07-09, 12:35 PM
Something I just realized. The scrolls also work on Face/Eye/Belt/Ring slots, but these don't exist as monster drops so if people are thinking they can use these scrolls on their several million meso equipment they got another thing coming. Of course it's entirely possible to just not scroll them, but will this mean these equipment from such slots will be dropping in the future? For the belt's case though, if we can get multiple Black Belts in the future for free that's another source of +stats%.
2010-07-09, 02:55 PM
IllegallySane Wrote:Something I just realized. The scrolls also work on Face/Eye/Belt/Ring slots, but these don't exist as monster drops so if people are thinking they can use these scrolls on their several million meso equipment they got another thing coming. Of course it's entirely possible to just not scroll them, but will this mean these equipment from such slots will be dropping in the future? For the belt's case though, if we can get multiple Black Belts in the future for free that's another source of +stats%. There are various sources of belts that are rather cheap, the most cheap/easiest source being the dojo. I wouldn't mind scrolling my white belt.
2010-07-09, 03:01 PM
IllegallySane Wrote:Something I just realized. The scrolls also work on Face/Eye/Belt/Ring slots, but these don't exist as monster drops The purple potential scrolls makes any item unidentified if it isn't. (might need slots on it, haven't heard of people identifying lilin's rings) This includes existing equipment and stuff you get from NPCs. The only thing you need item drops for is to skip buying the purple scrolls, cause item drops have about a 10% chance of being "unidentified". Easy proof: Reverse items are only maker-able, and maker never makes "unidentified" items. Every rare/epic/unique Reverse item was potential scrolled.
2010-07-09, 03:09 PM
I've actually started putting items up for sale.
I see a major crash coming in the things most people covet now.
2010-07-09, 03:20 PM
Stereo Wrote:The purple potential scrolls makes any item unidentified if it isn't. (might need slots on it, haven't heard of people identifying lilin's rings) This includes existing equipment and stuff you get from NPCs. Knowing people like me I'd wear nothing less than Unique quality items if only to avoid going through the trouble of spending money upgrading from low potential to high. Having no way to get the equipment I mentioned through drops means if they don't start dropping soon, potential scrolled equipment of that rarity will be insanely expensive if it hits unique status.
2010-07-09, 03:28 PM
How common are potential scrolls? I heard that they drop from everything, which means that they should be the most common kind of scroll, in theory.
IllegallySane Wrote:Knowing people like me I'd wear nothing less than Unique quality items if only to avoid going through the trouble of spending money upgrading from low potential to high. Having no way to get the equipment I mentioned through drops means if they don't start dropping soon, potential scrolled equipment of that rarity will be insanely expensive if it hits unique status. Isn't unique the lowest kind? |
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