Post-1.2.318 Damage Calculations

Mr. Shikage is very iffy on providing correct w.atk so I'm basing this on zero accurate screenshots, but I think Axe and BW have the same multipliers as swords (1.2 and 1.28).

Mr. Shikage is very iffy on providing correct w.atk so I'm basing this on zero accurate screenshots, but I think Axe and BW have the same multipliers as swords (1.2 and 1.28).

That would narrow the gap between the classes of weapons. I wonder if slash/stab still makes a difference on damage? A small slash bonus would make them equal.

Mr. Shikage is very iffy on providing correct w.atk so I'm basing this on zero accurate screenshots, but I think Axe and BW have the same multipliers as swords (1.2 and 1.28).

Iffy? What do you mean?

I think noticed a slight difference between my damage range with a staff and a wand with the same matk. I'm pretty sure it was the minimum damage though. Checking it out.

Edit: Maximum damage is differs by 2.

 52~206|55 Total Matk|25 Matk Staff

 52~208|55 Total Matk|25 Matk Wand

0.87 staff, 0.88 wand? Strange.


@ ShiKage: just that you posted screenshots of a lot of weapons that don't say what your other atk is (I assumed it's 30 or 31).

Whoa, that's strange. Can we get some more staff screenshots?

Bishop --- INT:1084 LUK:118 damage:5231~6975
find out the Matk=180, but I don't have it's gear screenshots.

0.87 staff, 0.88 wand? Strange.


@ ShiKage: just that you posted screenshots of a lot of weapons that don't say what your other atk is (I assumed it's 30 or 31).

I didn't post any weapons that weren't equipped. I don't see how that would affect the calculations. I gave you everything I had equipped.

Some more staves:

 53~212|56 Total Matk

 57~227|60 Total Matk

 62~246|65 Total Matk

And here are some claws:

Total Atk = Claw Attack + 5atk Pet Equip + 15atk Subis + 4 atk Blessing

 36~239|35 Total Atk

x * (4*75+42) * 0.35 = 239
x = 1.997

 37~245|35 Total Atk

x * (4*77+42) * 0.35 = 245
x = 2

 37~249|36 Total Atk

x * (4*76+42) * 0.36 = 249
x = 1.999

It looks like the claw multiplier is 2.

On the topic of claws, can you confirm whether or not Lucky Seven is based directly off of your damage range, or the special formula it currently uses?

On the topic of claws, can you confirm whether or not Lucky Seven is based directly off of your damage range, or the special formula it currently uses?

I'm working on a video for this, I actually made the character as a dit, so I'm resetting double stab into L7 as we speak.

Edit: So far, it doesn't look like L7 has it's own formula, the old one anyway.

Bishop --- INT:1084 LUK:118 damage:5231~6975
find out the Matk=180, but I don't have it's gear screenshots.

That matches the staff formula perfectly if all that information is right.

Claw formula also looks legit.

Edit: The staves in iAmFear's screenshots don't match the 0.87 multiplier; they match the 0.88 multiplier. Wonder what's going on. What class is that?

That matches the staff formula perfectly if all that information is right.

Claw formula also looks legit.

Edit: The staves in iAmFear's screenshots don't match the 0.87 multiplier; they match the 0.88 multiplier. Wonder what's going on. What class is that?

It's a regular Adventurer Magician. I guess the other one was a fluke?

It's a regular Adventurer Magician. I guess the other one was a fluke?

Well, I can't think of anything that would cause the staff in the other screenshot to not match the formula. Either the formula's wrong, or there's another factor in play somewhere.

Edit: Below average weapon? o_o

Is 0.01 not within the margin of error? 0.88 seems no different than 0.87 to me.

Is 0.01 not within the margin of error? 0.88 seems no different than 0.87 to me.

We'd prefer exact formulas if possible. 0.87 can actually make a difference of a couple dozen damage points in the range at higher levels.

Well, I can't think of anything that would cause the staff in the other screenshot to not match the formula. Either the formula's wrong, or there's another factor in play somewhere.

Edit: Below average weapon? o_o

Yeah, both of my level 10 staves are below average, I don't think that would have an effect.

I'm not really familiar with Maple math, but I think I did this right.

Damage Range: 37~249, 76 LUK, 42 DEX, 36 ATT

Max (L7 Formula): [(5*76)/100] * 36 * 1.7 = 232.56 * .9 = 209.3
Min (L7 Formula): [(2.5*76)/100] * 36 * 1.7 = 116.28 * .9 = 104.7

Max: 249 * 1.7 = 423.3 * .9 = 380.97
Min: 37 * 1.7 = 62.9 * .9 = 56.6

1.7 for L7's 170%
* .9 for the 10% reduction from Snails?
Oh, and not sure how rounding works.

 And...

SCUZE ME WHILE I CRY AT MY IDIOCY.


Finally Dex adds damage to Lucky Seven. Feels good man.

Congratulations. L7 no longer has its own formula. It works just like all other skills.

I'm loving how this is simplifying damage calculations a lot.

I think noticed a slight difference between my damage range with a staff and a wand with the same matk. I'm pretty sure it was the minimum damage though. Checking it out.

Edit: Maximum damage is differs by 2.

 52~206|55 Total Matk|25 Matk Staff

 52~208|55 Total Matk|25 Matk Wand

This post is still a mindpineapple.

What causes the 0.87 multiplier to be used?

Or maybe the staff formula is entirely different. More screenshots with the 25 magic level 10 staff please?