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xDae Wrote:You, Jaces and Eyrod all have your heads up your ass. If you really cant see that what you are doing is abusing a glitch, then there is no helping you.
Instead of getting all hot-headed, cursing us out and saying "there's no help for us", maybe you should try to understand both sides of the argument before saying we "have our heads up our asses". You're not solving anything by doing so.
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Crescendolls Wrote:I didn't know having differing opinions of what is and what is not a glitch automatically makes you narcissistic.
It's funny because no matter how many forums complainers lock down or threads they make.. none of the so-called "glitchers" will ever stop nor think what they are doing is wrong. So you're really just digging yourself deeper. Instead of whining about them, you could try training "legitimately" and pass them yourselves.
That's the problem. There isn't a way to "legitimately" beat out that kind of exp rate, especially when they've already gotten ahead and put some pretty good distance between themselves and the highest "legitimate" levelers. Even less so are they able to obtain that kind of exp in a new server for some fairly obvious reasons.
You're right though, no matter how many people argue whether it's right or wrong, it's not like it has any real (desirable) effects on the ones doing it; the only thing that does is give them more and more attention. Isn't that a pretty good sized part of what "being number one" is all about in the first place? Haven't we given them enough of our attention yet?
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Haiku Wrote:That's the problem. There isn't a way to "legitimately" beat out that kind of exp rate, especially when they've already gotten ahead and put some pretty good distance between themselves and the highest "legitimate" levelers. Even less so are they able to obtain that kind of exp in a new server for some fairly obvious reasons. Talking about EXP rates is unfair in itself. Prior to the hermits, the priests had a battle of the how-many-EXP-cards. The hermits are not going to "glitch" forever, so of course it's possible to pass them; it'll just take longer. However, the funniest part of this is that 99% of the people whining about the "glitchers" would never pass them even if they trained "legitimately." They all got to 70 in four or less days to be able to even get Shadow Web. Most of the "glitchers" are previously high-leveled Mardians who have already been in the top ranks, so they've already proved themselves capable.
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Crescendolls Wrote:Talking about EXP rates is unfair in itself. Prior to the hermits, the priests had a battle of the how-many-EXP-cards. The hermits are not going to "glitch" forever, so of course it's possible to pass them; it'll just take longer. However, the funniest part of this is that 99% of the people whining about the "glitchers" would never pass them even if they trained "legitimately." They all got to 70 in four or less days to be able to even get Shadow Web. Most of the "glitchers" are previously high-leveled Mardians who have already been in the top ranks, so they've already proved themselves capable.
THATS THE DAMN POINT WERE GETTING TO HERE! /uncivilazed
These top mardians I believe are from eternity right? because if so I don't want to hear anything about it. (If you're an eternity lover, there's no point arguing with you)
They got there because of theyre 4x exp, and then to where they are by gltiching, please if it was normal exp with no events and no glitch, theyd be just like ever other low lvled person >_>.
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In summary, they owned everyone and theres nothing anyone is/can do about it. The crappy truth at its crappiest hour.
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Im going to stop arguing, becuase you know whats funny?
1 of these things is going to happen first
1. Nexon fixes the glitch and starts swinging its ban hammer
2. Nexon doesn't fix the glitch but swings the banhammer anyway.
3. These top Yellondians get Bored and Quit
4. They quit when 3 weeks is up
5. They quit when bigfoot only gives them somthing along the lines of .01-1%
If none of that happens
1. They wont be recognized for theyre top ranks, infact theyd be more disliked.
2. Yellondians riot against Eternity telling them to go mess up theyre own server.
(Massive Ksing against Eternity Members)
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2008-08-21, 02:16 AM
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Milelke Wrote:THATS THE DAMN POINT WERE GETTING TO HERE! /uncivilazed
These top mardians I believe are from eternity right? because if so I don't want to hear anything about it. (If you're an eternity lover, there's no point arguing with you)
They got there because of theyre 4x exp, and then to where they are by gltiching, please if it was normal exp with no events and no glitch, theyd be just like ever other low lvled person >_>. Perhaps you should try re-reading the statement you bolded, because I don't believe you comprehended it. Bringing up 4X in an attempt to make their training worth any less is pointless. Every single person who's been in the top ranks since 2X EXP cards were released is there because of said 2X EXP cards. All the priests abused their cards. Every single player in the old top 20, aside from PresentsX, had 3 or more cards. The former (before the "glitchers") top 5 all had max 2X cards. All the "glitching" hermits were in the top 40 or so, considering they got to level 70 without "glitching" in less than four days. Also, HAHAHAHAHA at saying they'd be just like everybody else. Eyrod has a 15x Mardian character. sekrit was in Mardia's top 5 for several weeks (until he quit) and has several fourth job characters (12x I/L Mage, 16x Night Lord, 12x Night Lord). Lanny was in the top 5 Chief Bandits consistently for the first 6 months of Mardia (until he quit). Rayok has a 14x Shadower and was also in the top Chief Bandits in Mardia. Don't make assumptions in subjects you have no knowledge about.
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And youre trying to tell me all those poeple your talking about didnt use 2x Cards, oh and dont forget that how old mardia is, its almost been a year >_>.
Either way they are glitching regardless of what they did before they started glitching.
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Milelke Wrote:And youre trying to tell me all those poeple your talking about didnt use 2x Cards When did I ever say that?
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You did not, but im automatically implying it becuase they have acsess to NX.
Nothign Is wrong with 2x exp, there are legit grinders who dont use 2x exp who have actually gotten past what I call "spoiled" grinders. (People who use 2x exp)
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Spoiled? 2x is accessible to everyone as well not only Hermits and FP's.
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Milelke Wrote:You did not, but im automatically implying it becuase they have acsess to NX.
Nothign Is wrong with 2x exp, there are legit grinders who dont use 2x exp who have actually gotten past what I call "spoiled" grinders. (People who use 2x exp)
2x EXP has nothing to do with Bigfoot "glitching" whatsoever, so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up to discredit them. I suppose there might be grinders without 2x, but I can't say I ever heard of any because they're so far down the ranks.
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[COLOR="Red"]The thread's not gonna last on where it's going with it being off topic from the so called hermits glitching and how uncivil it is, so here's my lame input for everything.
Moreso yet, I still don't get why Milelke can't understand that these guys are capable of being in the top even without glitching as Crescendolls tried to explain. & so you know, Mardia's been out for way over a year now. Make it just about 1.5 years.
Anywho for the whole glitching topic; it really doesn't matter everyone's opinions are different and by the time if anything does happen if they don't get banned, everyone's just gonna leave it alone as it's already in the gray area like lots of other cases such as say for an example, Failure9 incident in Kradia and a bunch of others I could list if I had to think about it.[/COLOR]
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2008-08-21, 02:32 AM
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-Since Strawberries is pretty much 100% Right, I will rest my case-
-Im tireds right now, so im not thinking clearly -__-
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I'm sure the mods appreciate the fact that you don't want to get a warning by "flaming" me, but rambling on incoherently about 2x EXP cards in a thread about glitching isn't too helpful either.
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Milelke Wrote:Im talking about the cards.
I was talking about the cards too, y so slow.
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Skylicious Wrote:I was talking about the cards too, y so slow.
This will be my last point before I log off.
You are wrong, not everybody has acsses (at least not immediate) to NX, even if, not everybody wants to use them.
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Milelke Wrote:This will be my last point before I log off.
You are wrong, not everybody has acsses (at least not immediate) to NX, even if, not everybody wants to use them.
EVERYONE has access to the Cash Shop. Therefore EVERYONE has access to 2x cards. Wanting to use them or not is up to every individual but don't bring that in this argument since it's irrelevant to the point that I'm trying to prove.
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[COLOR="Red"]Ryan, you are truly not comprehending his post.
Not everyone has access to NX you know. Living out of North America for example, paypal, bank, money, work? That's not accessible everywhere, really. There's things you gotta be a certain age to do and then there's the thing with parents. & they way you said it, is different. Cash shop, yes, everyone has access to it, but NX, no.[/COLOR]
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