Dual Blade Builds

First Job

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Level 10: 1 Double Stab
Level 11: 4 Double Stab
Level 12: 7 Double Stab
Level 13: 10 Double Stab
Level 14: Save
Level 15: Save
Level 16: Save
Level 17: Save
Level 18: Save
Level 19: Save
Level 20: Save
Skills:

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10 Double Stab

Explanation: 10 double stab is needed for triple stab, and none of the other 1st job skills are immediately useful. The rest of your SP is best saved for the next job advancement.

Second Job

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Level 20: 10 Mastery, 6 Triple Stab, 5 Booster
Level 21: 13 Mastery
Level 22: 16 Mastery
Level 23: 19 Mastery
Level 24: 9 Triple Stab
Level 25: 10 Triple Stab, 7 Booster
Level 26: 10 Booster
Level 27: 13 Booster
Level 28: 16 Booster
Level 29: 19 Booster
Level 30: 20 Booster, 2 Disorder
Skills:

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10 Double Stab
19 Mastery
10 Triple Stab
20 Booster
2 Disorder

Explanation: Although dumping into triple stab directly would give more average damage than going mastery first, you’re mainly concerned with stability during these levels trying to consistently kill a monster in x amount of hits, so overkilling won’t be of much help. 6 triple stab to start off for the third target, then mastery for the consistency. If you need dark sight for party quests and such, take a few points from booster for it.

Second Job Plus

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Level 30: 1 Slash Storm
Level 31: 3 Self Haste
Level 32: 6 Self Haste
Level 33: 9 Self Haste
Level 34: 12 Self Haste
Level 35: 15 Self Haste
Level 36: 18 Self Haste
Level 37: 20 Self Haste, 2 Slash Storm
Level 38: 6 Slash Storm (CS book)
Level 39: 9 Slash Storm
Level 40: 12 Slash Storm
Level 41: 15 Slash Storm
Level 42: 18 Slash Storm
Level 43: 20 Slash Storm, 1 Fatal Blow
Level 44: 4 Fatal Blow
Level 45: 7 Fatal Blow
Level 46: 10 Fatal Blow
Level 47: 13 Fatal Blow
Level 48: 16 Fatal Blow
Level 49: 19 Fatal Blow
Level 50: 20 Fatal Blow, 3 Disorder, 1 Dark Sight
Level 51: 3 Nimble Body
Level 52: 6 Nimble Body
Level 53: 9 Nimble Body
Level 54: 12 Nimble Body
Level 55: 15 Nimble Body
Skills:

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10 Double Stab
19 Mastery
10 Triple Stab
20 Booster
3 Disorder
20 Slash Storm
20 Self Haste
20 Fatal Blow
1 Dark Sight
15 Nimble Body

Explanation: Triple stab will still be your best mob skill until level 70, so focus first on self haste to improve your mobility. Slash storm is a decent mob skill with farther range than triple stab along with being the first skill that moves you, so get that next to integrate it into your training for even better mobility and mob damage. Fatal blow then comes next after your training skills as a strong single-target skill. After that, get nimble body for the extra accuracy and avoid.

Third Job

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Level 55: 1 Tornado Spin
Level 56: 3 Flash Jump
Level 57: 6 Flash Jump
Level 58: 9 Flash Jump
Level 59: 12 Flash Jump
Level 60: 15 Flash Jump
Level 61: 18 Flash Jump
Level 62: 20 Flash Jump, 1 Flash Bang (Typhon build only)/Save
Level 63: Save
Level 64: Save
Level 65: Save
Level 66: Save
Level 67: Save
Level 68: Save
Level 69: Save
Level 70: Save
Skills:

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10 Double Stab
19 Mastery
10 Triple Stab
20 Booster
3 Disorder
20 Slash Storm
20 Self Haste
20 Fatal Blow
1 Dark Sight
15 Nimble Body
1 Tornado Spin
20 Flash Jump
(1 Flash Bang)

Explanation: Tornado spin and flash bang are not very good skills, so max flash jump for mobility and save the rest of your SP for the next job advancement. Tornado spin gives you a nice rushing skill, but you get flying assaulter anyways in a few levels. 1 point is good enough for a 55-69 rushing skill to create triple stab mobs. Flash bang is really only useful for blinding bosses and luring typhons, both of which are not very relevant until later on anyways. If you think you’ll be training on typhons later on, you’ll be needing flash bang anyways, but if not, just leave it out until the end of third job plus.

Third Job Plus (Typhons Build)

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Level 70: 4 Mirror Image, 20 Upper Stab, 1 Bloody Storm
Level 71: 7 Mirror Image
Level 72: 11 Mirror Image (CS book)
Level 73: 3 Flying Assaulter
Level 74: 7 Flying Assaulter (CS book)
Level 75: 10 Flying Assaulter
Level 76: 11 Flying Assaulter, 13 Mirror Image
Level 77: 16 Mirror Image
Level 78: 19 Mirror Image
Level 79: 22 Mirror Image
Level 80: 25 Mirror Image
Level 81: 28 Mirror Image
Level 82: 30 Mirror Image, 12 Flying Assaulter
Level 83: 15 Flying Assaulter
Level 84: 18 Flying Assaulter
Level 85: 20 Flying Assaulter, 2 Bloody Storm
Level 86: 5 Bloody Storm
Level 87: 8 Bloody Storm
Level 88: 10 Bloody Storm, 2 Tornado Spin
Level 89: 6 Tornado Spin (CS book)
Level 90: 9 Tornado Spin
Level 91: 12 Tornado Spin
Level 92: 15 Tornado Spin
Level 93: 18 Tornado Spin
Level 94: 20 Tornado Spin, 1 Owl Dead
Level 95: 4 Owl Dead
Level 96: 7 Owl Dead
Level 97: 10 Owl Dead
Level 98: 13 Owl Dead
Level 99: 16 Owl Dead
Level 100: 19 Owl Dead
Level 101: 20 Owl Dead, 3 Flash Bang
Level 102: 6 Flash Bang
Level 103: 9 Flash Bang
Level 104: 12 Flash Bang
Level 105: 15 Flash Bang
Level 106: 18 Flash Bang
Level 107: 20 Flash Bang, 16 Nimble Body
Level 108: 4 Dark Sight
Level 109: 7 Dark Sight
Level 110: 10 Dark Sight
Level 111: 13 Dark Sight
Level 112: 16 Dark Sight
Level 113: 19 Dark Sight
Level 114: 20 Dark Sight, 2 Advanced Dark Sight
Level 115: 5 Advanced Dark Sight
Level 116: 8 Advanced Dark Sight
Level 117: 11 Advanced Dark Sight
Level 118: 14 Advanced Dark Sight
Level 119: 17 Advanced Dark Sight
Level 120: 20 Advanced Dark Sight
Skills:

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10 Double Stab
19 Mastery
10 Triple Stab
20 Booster
3 Disorder
20 Slash Storm
20 Self Haste
20 Fatal Blow
20 Dark Sight
16 Nimble Body
20 Tornado Spin
20 Flash Jump
20 Flash Bang
30 Mirror Image
20 Upper Stab
10 Bloody Storm
20 Flying Assaulter
20 Owl Dead
20 Advanced Dark Sight

Explanation: This build is specifically for starting off at typhons right away at level 70. Upper stab is extremely fast, so with maxed upper stab, you’ll be doing tons of damage spamming upper stab at the safe spot just as an archer does with arrow rain/eruption. Flying assaulter starts off low because at level 70, you’ll probably be killing slow enough that typhons will be flying into your mob faster than you can kill them, so there’s not much need to lure. Slash/bloody storm is really only used for movement and invincibility at typhons, and 1 point upgrades your slash storm to bloody storm. As you kill typhons faster, flying assaulter becomes more important to add typhons to the mob, so get it to hit 8 targets next. Mirror image increases your upper stab damage by a ton as well as adding damage to your other skills, so that comes next. After that, get 11 flash bang for the added range and targets, as it’ll be very useful to throw to the opposite side of the map once per lure cycle. Bloody storm and tornado spin expand your training options with galloperas, himes, newties, etc., then add the rest of your needed skills is whichever order you want. Make sure you get maxed flash bang for later bosses and maxed dark sight for chains of hell.

Third Job Plus (Galloperas/himes Build)

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Level 70: 1 Mirror Image, 6 Bloody Storm, 20 Flying Assaulter (CS book)
Level 71: 4 Mirror Image
Level 72: 7 Mirror Image
Level 73: 11 Mirror Image (CS book)
Level 74: 3 Upper Stab
Level 75: 6 Upper Stab
Level 76: 9 Upper Stab
Level 77: 12 Upper Stab
Level 78: 15 Upper Stab
Level 79: 18 Upper Stab
Level 80: 20 Upper Stab, 7 Bloody Storm
Level 81: 10 Bloody Storm
Level 82: 14 Mirror Image
Level 83: 17 Mirror Image
Level 84: 20 Mirror Image
Level 85: 23 Mirror Image
Level 86: 26 Mirror Image
Level 87: 29 Mirror Image
Level 88: 30 Mirror Image, 3 Tornado Spin
Level 89: 7 Tornado Spin (CS book)
Level 90: 10 Tornado Spin
Level 91: 13 Tornado Spin
Level 92: 16 Tornado Spin
Level 93: 19 Tornado Spin
Level 94: 20 Tornado Spin, 2 Owl Dead
Level 95: 5 Owl Dead
Level 96: 8 Owl Dead
Level 97: 11 Owl Dead
Level 98: 14 Owl Dead
Level 99: 17 Owl Dead
Level 100: 20 Owl Dead
Level 101: 3 Flash Bang
Level 102: 6 Flash Bang
Level 103: 9 Flash Bang
Level 104: 12 Flash Bang
Level 105: 15 Flash Bang
Level 106: 18 Flash Bang
Level 107: 20 Flash Bang, 16 Nimble Body
Level 108: 4 Dark Sight
Level 109: 7 Dark Sight
Level 110: 10 Dark Sight
Level 111: 13 Dark Sight
Level 112: 16 Dark Sight
Level 113: 19 Dark Sight
Level 114: 20 Dark Sight, 2 Advanced Dark Sight
Level 115: 5 Advanced Dark Sight
Level 116: 8 Advanced Dark Sight
Level 117: 11 Advanced Dark Sight
Level 118: 14 Advanced Dark Sight
Level 119: 17 Advanced Dark Sight
Level 120: 20 Advanced Dark Sight
Skills:

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10 Double Stab
19 Mastery
10 Triple Stab
20 Booster
3 Disorder
20 Slash Storm
20 Self Haste
20 Fatal Blow
20 Dark Sight
16 Nimble Body
20 Tornado Spin
20 Flash Jump
20 Flash Bang
30 Mirror Image
20 Upper Stab
10 Bloody Storm
20 Flying Assaulter
20 Owl Dead
20 Advanced Dark Sight

Explanation:

Fourth Job

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Level 120: 1 Thorns, 1 Venom, 1 Final Cut
Level 121: 4 Thorns
Level 122: 7 Thorns
Level 123: 11 Thorns (CS book)
Level 124: 12 Thorns, 2 Venom, 1 Sudden Raid
Level 125: 5 Venom
Level 126: 8 Venom
Level 127: 11 Venom
Level 128: 15 Thorns
Level 129: 18 Thorns
Level 130: 21 Thorns
Level 131: 24 Thorns
Level 132: 27 Thorns
Level 133: 30 Thorns
Level 134: 3 Final Cut, 1 Monster Bomb
Level 135: 6 Final Cut
Level 136: 3 Chains of Hell
Level 137: 6 Chains of Hell
Level 138: 9 Chains of Hell
Level 139: 12 Chains of Hell
Level 140: 15 Chains of Hell
Level 141: 18 Chains of Hell
Level 142: 21 Chains of Hell
Level 143: 24 Chains of Hell
Level 144: 27 Chains of Hell
Level 145: 30 Chains of Hell
Level 146: 3 Stack Effect
Level 147: 6 Stack Effect
Level 148: 9 Stack Effect
Level 149: 12 Stack Effect
Level 150: 15 Stack Effect
Level 151: 18 Stack Effect
Level 152: 21 Stack Effect
Level 153: 24 Stack Effect
Level 154: 26 Stack Effect, 7 Final Cut
Level 155: 10 Final Cut
Level 156: 13 Final Cut
Level 157: 16 Final Cut
Level 158: 19 Final Cut
Level 159: 21 Final Cut, 1 Maple Warrior
Level 160: 24 Final Cut
Level 161: 27 Final Cut
Level 162: 30 Final Cut
Level 163: 4 Maple Warrior
Level 164: 7 Maple Warrior
Level 165: 10 Maple Warrior
Level 166: 13 Maple Warrior
Level 167: 16 Maple Warrior
Level 168: 19 Maple Warrior

Explanation: Venom, final cut, and sudden raid are all great first-pointers. Since you’re using so many skills to train in early 4th job, it’s best to start with venom and thorns because they affect all the attacks you have. Thorns gets the last of its irregular boosts at 12, so get a decent venom when thorns is at 12. Venom is really good for dual bladers because the extremely fast mobbing attacks trigger venom much more often than other thieves’ skills do, not to mention even sudden raid activates it. I choose to leave sudden raid at a low level because you’ll be training off royal guard and other bosses soon enough, and keeping it at a low mp cost keeps it great as something to activate venom on monsters in other parts of the map. I also don’t think it does enough damage to be worth purely spamming anyways, and dual blader damage is much less stable than magicians’ especially with criticals and the random venom effect. After thorns is done, chains of hell comes next for better single-target damage. A good thing about the dual blader 4th job is that all your training attacks are already maxed back in 3rd job plus. Once chains of hell is finished, stack effect comes next for royal guard as well as other bosses like anego, etc. Although stack effect is almost completely useless outside of royal guard and similar bosses, killing royals is the fastest exp rate achievable in the game and is definitely worth being the sole reason for getting 26 stack effect. Because you won’t be able to hit royals efficiently enough until like level 155, I set it up so that stack effect would hit 26 at that level. Final cut comes next to improve your soloing damage, and maple warrior next to further improve your damage, then you’re pretty much done with useful skills in your 170s like almost all other classes.

You can save from 2nd+ to 3rd, and 3rd to 3rd+ but not 3rd+ to 4th. All jobs except 3rd+ to 4th (unless it was quietly changed) allow you to save SP.

You can save from 2nd+ to 3rd, and 3rd to 3rd+ but not 3rd+ to 4th. All jobs except 3rd+ to 4th (unless it was quietly changed) allow you to save SP.

Okay, thanks for the clarification. Makes things even more complicated, I'll change things later =p

[COLOR="orange"]Tornado Spin actually isn't as bad as you'd think at first glance. =P
[video=youtube;IsmC488RcsY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsmC488RcsY[/video]
If you're missing the point, he's using TS after Flying Assaulter.[/COLOR]

I think the points dumped in endure on 3rd job+ should be put into tornado spin, as it can be used to sweep maps very very quick when combined with flying assaulter.

You can only save SP from 1st -> 2nd and 3rd -> 3rd+

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[COLOR="orange"]Tornado Spin actually isn't as bad as you'd think at first glance. =P
If you're missing the point, he's using TS after Flying Assaulter.[/COLOR]

You obviously don't know how to cast Tornado Spin. You can't hotkey it.

As for a build recommendation; I'd go with the generic build that TJ went with. It's generic, up-to-date, and correct.

You can only save SP from 1st -> 2nd and 3rd -> 3rd+

????

You obviously don't know how to cast Tornado Spin. You can't hotkey it.

That's the point...he's not using the dash to TS, just press the attack button after FA and it works.
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Looks like someone needs to get some more information. =P

Instead of adding points into Stack Effect, why don't you put points into Sudden Raid. Stack effect isn't that good as it lowers your damage. Wouldn't a spammable ultimate be much more useful?

Instead of adding points into Stack Effect, why don't you put points into Sudden Raid. Stack effect isn't that good as it lowers your damage. Wouldn't a spammable ultimate be much more useful?

[COLOR="orange"]IMO, Sudden Raid isn't that great. The main source of damage really is from the Venom effect you can get on all the monsters you hit. Otherwise, 300%(600% at max) isn't too great. Besides, standing around casting an Ult is far too boring and completely against Dual Blade style. =P
Also, Stack Effect kills Mirror Image, but it keeps you alive.[/COLOR]

but doesn't stack effect act like puppet? o_o

????

Things patched.

That's the point...he's not using the dash to TS, just press the attack button after FA and it works.
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Looks like someone needs to get some more information. =P

You obviously don't know how annoying that would be. You have to press the directional hotkey twice, then the attack. The dash effect only lasts for a few seconds anyway and it has to be executed pretty fast.

Things patched.

You obviously don't know how annoying that would be. You have to press the directional hotkey twice, then the attack. The dash effect only lasts for a few seconds anyway and it has to be executed pretty fast.

[COLOR="orange"]Sure it was patched? Last post on the 14th of April confirms it. But if you say so...
But he's not dashing. He's only pressing the attack key after FA.[/COLOR]

it keeps you alive.

Explain.

Stack effect lets you train on royal guards, which is probably the best source of exp 150-200. Mirror image honestly isn't that great, it only contributes to like 12% of your total damage with maxed thorns, critical ring, and level 1 final cut. Unlike doing 0.6x your original damage like the way shadow partner works, it simply does 60% of your attack range each hit.

"Keeping you alive" isn't really the same thing as puppet though. Keeping you alive would be absorbing damage, averting aggro would be the purpose of stack effect.

Sorry, meant more as a reply to InfiniteFusion, but stack effect does keep you alive at royal guard since you... won't die (if you don't screw up).

[COLOR="orange"]IMO, Sudden Raid isn't that great. The main source of damage really is from the Venom effect you can get on all the monsters you hit. Otherwise, 300%(600% at max) isn't too great. Besides, standing around casting an Ult is far too boring and completely against Dual Blade style. =P
Also, Stack Effect kills Mirror Image, but it keeps you alive.[/COLOR]

I dont see how Sudden Raid is so weak. When I saw the Sudden Raid video, it showed the Dual Blade doing around 20k per monster on average. Sudden Raid also attacks about two times faster than a mages ultimate, and that Dual Blader was 3HKOing those Skeles ( 5-6HKOing when his final cut deactivates, since it has a cooldown now). So, either that Dual Blade was extremely high leveled (I couldn't see his level)/ very well equiped, or your telling me that a Dual Blade that trains with his other skills give more exp than a mage spamming his Ultimate.

As for Stack Effect, how does it keep you alive? It acts like puppet and doesn't follow you around. So, unless you keep recasting it, or you train in one spot, Stack Effect doesn't seem very useful.

[COLOR="orange"]Sure it was patched? Last post on the 14th of April confirms it. But if you say so...
But he's not dashing. He's only pressing the attack key after FA.[/COLOR]

I meant that the skill point thing was patched constantly.
I still don't see how that makes Tornado Spin useful

I still don't see how that makes Tornado Spin useful

How about the fact that it provides a lot of damage, invincibility frames, rushing, and mobility all at the same time?

I dont see how Sudden Raid is so weak. When I saw the Sudden Raid video, it showed the Dual Blade doing around 20k per monster on average. Sudden Raid also attacks about two times faster than a mages ultimate, and that Dual Blader was 3HKOing those Skeles ( 5-6HKOing when his final cut deactivates, since it has a cooldown now). So, either that Dual Blade was extremely high leveled (I couldn't see his level)/ very well equiped, or your telling me that a Dual Blade that trains with his other skills give more exp than a mage spamming his Ultimate.

As for Stack Effect, how does it keep you alive? It acts like puppet and doesn't follow you around. So, unless you keep recasting it, or you train in one spot, Stack Effect doesn't seem very useful.

Acting like puppet is exactly what it does, try killing royal guard without it. Leaving sudden raid low is also for that reason, as by 145-150 you'll want to start training off royal guards. Depending on your equipment you should be getting royal guard kills in 20-30 mins soon by like 160-170, which comes out to over 30-45mil exp per hour on 1x, which is impossible to beat or even come close to through normal training. Like the magician ultimates, sudden raid isn't very good anyways if you plan to train at oblivion 4. Also, sudden raid isn't twice as fast, it's only like 2/3 the speed.

I meant that the skill point thing was patched constantly.
I still don't see how that makes Tornado Spin useful

There isn't that much to lose from getting tornado spin at the end of 3rd+, all you'd miss out on is endure and like 5 nimble body avoid, so might as well max it. I think everyone would agree that saving SP in 3rd job is better than maxing tornado spin in 3rd job.