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Ookami · (This post was last modified: 2010-01-18, 02:20 AM by Ookami.)

If they can keep getting our info, then would the safest thing to do is just stay logged in? I'm a tad scared right now.

***Eos*** · 2010-01-18, 02:19 AM

Rhayn Wrote:Can someone post a SS of the list of account names they put up, without the pass/pins? Just wanna know who's getting their details published.

Leaked Accounts

Remember these are just the ones publicly posted, not all they claim to have. Not being on here doesn't mean you're safe.

y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:Well, I'm continually checking the Mardia FMs, and I have yet to see any signs of anyone getting hacked, so for now, Mardians, rest easy.

Perhaps you didn't see the sheer number of Mardian's pointing out they'd been hacked, like myself, Fumni, and on and on?

IllegallySane · 2010-01-18, 02:19 AM

y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:But I'm honestly thinking that changing your password won't do a thing. At this moment, we can only assume that they can continue to take all of their information from the Nexon database and continue to renew it, even as we change our information.

Great......... looks like it's nearly time to return to WoW if Nexon doesn't fix this soon. Getting to 200 is not worth freaking out everyday over whether I will get hacked or not, despite doing everything on MY end to stay safe.

Fumni · 2010-01-18, 02:25 AM

y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:Well, I'm continually checking the Mardia FMs, and I have yet to see any signs of anyone getting hacked, so for now, Mardians, rest easy.

You never cease to amaze me Rolleyes

y0y0y0y0shi0 · 2010-01-18, 02:27 AM

Fumni Wrote:You never cease to amaze me

.....AT THIS MOMENT*
>.>
-Searches the FM again-

Rhayn · 2010-01-18, 02:29 AM

Kevo Wrote:Well according to the thread, they have everybody's account info. No need for a list of user IDs.

Could be exaggeration, I don't know. It might be naive, but I'm still hoping that this is just a one-off break in/partial leak, and that they don't have a direct line into Nexon's database anymore.
Either way, if my details were posted on a forum for every punk and his sister to try out, I'd like to know.

Eosian Wrote:Remember these are just the ones publicly posted, not all they claim to have. Not being on here doesn't mean you're safe.

Thanks, Eosian.

Retalion · 2010-01-18, 02:31 AM

Hendrix Wrote:i tested some of those accounts to see if was really real or not and well really worked, some accounts banned but some working fine and some with pass working and pin not working.

the only thing i can affirm here is those accounts are all old, since i have IP block i can only log in accounts created before 2008 and none of those accounts gave me any warning what means all those accounts are not new and the post is not a prank, well seems Nexon really fawked up this time good i quited

hmm, that's interesting, as, forgive me if Im wrong, but we havent seen any Galicia hackings, have we? If both those are indeed true, then perhaps what they have is simply an old copy of the database (however they got their hands onto it), with no method of getting onto newer accounts.

If what I've said above is true, then a "safe" thing to do is to create a new account to store everything on, as they wont be able to get there.

Thoughts?

IllegallySane · 2010-01-18, 02:33 AM

Retalion Wrote:hmm, that's interesting, as, forgive me if Im wrong, but we havent seen any Galicia hackings, have we? If both those are indeed true, then perhaps what they have is simply an old copy of the database (however they got their hands onto it), with no method of getting onto newer accounts.

If what I've said above is true, then a "safe" thing to do is to create a new account to store everything on, as they wont be able to get there.

Thoughts?

This. I would like to know. I wouldn't mind making a noob account and store all my valuables away if it means 100% protection of said items.

Rhayn · 2010-01-18, 02:37 AM

Retalion Wrote:hmm, that's interesting, as, forgive me if Im wrong, but we havent seen any Galicia hackings, have we? If both those are indeed true, then perhaps what they have is simply an old copy of the database (however they got their hands onto it), with no method of getting onto newer accounts.

If what I've said above is true, then a "safe" thing to do is to create a new account to store everything on, as they wont be able to get there.

Thoughts?

But what does that have to do with having a character on Galicia? You could have an old account with a Galician character, right?

~~Fondles~~ · 2010-01-18, 02:38 AM

IllegallySane Wrote:This. I would like to know. I wouldn't mind making a noob account and store all my valuables away if it means 100% protection of said items.

Believe me, it's just a matter of time.

Stereo · 2010-01-18, 02:52 AM

Retalion Wrote:If what I've said above is true, then a "safe" thing to do is to create a new account to store everything on, as they wont be able to get there.

Relatively safe anyway, there are literally tens of millions of low level accounts. They can't look through them all in any reasonable amount of time.

Something I was thinking of, for security, would be an item lock that gave items the Lilin's Ring status - can be traded within the account, but not dropped/sold/etc. Maybe with the additional proviso that you cannot delete a character that is carrying such an item. It would make that kind of thing a lot more useful... I'm not exactly gonna lock a different attack glove to every character, but some of the stuff my DK/WK share would benefit from being account-tradeable only.

Rhynot · 2010-01-18, 03:03 AM

Item locks already work like that, unless the item is already untradeable/needs to be karmaed.

Phoenix · 2010-01-18, 03:08 AM

Stereo Wrote:Relatively safe anyway, there are literally tens of millions of low level accounts. They can't look through them all in any reasonable amount of time.

Something I was thinking of, for security, would be an item lock that gave items the Lilin's Ring status - can be traded within the account, but not dropped/sold/etc. Maybe with the additional proviso that you cannot delete a character that is carrying such an item. It would make that kind of thing a lot more useful... I'm not exactly gonna lock a different attack glove to every character, but some of the stuff my DK/WK share would benefit from being account-tradeable only.

I agree, I thought at one point locking your wedding ring would be deletion protection, but that doesn't prevent you from initiating a divorce. And to boot recently they made it so you can delete chars without leaving family, so I'm guessing married chars can too.

IllegallySane · 2010-01-18, 03:40 AM

Fondles Wrote:Believe me, it's just a matter of time.

.............. wow. Tongue

I shouldn't have said anything.

Cyanne · 2010-01-18, 03:48 AM

Stereo Wrote:Relatively safe anyway, there are literally tens of millions of low level accounts. They can't look through them all in any reasonable amount of time.

Something I was thinking of, for security, would be an item lock that gave items the Lilin's Ring status - can be traded within the account, but not dropped/sold/etc. Maybe with the additional proviso that you cannot delete a character that is carrying such an item. It would make that kind of thing a lot more useful... I'm not exactly gonna lock a different attack glove to every character, but some of the stuff my DK/WK share would benefit from being account-tradeable only.

Permanent item locks should have been free but cost nx to remove. Nexon might even have made more money that way.

PervyMat · (This post was last modified: 2010-01-18, 04:34 AM by PervyMat.)

MissingLink Wrote:What antivirus software did you use that eventually discovered the trojan that your normal scans failed to find?
I have read that some keyloggers are invisible to most antivirus as well as process explorer and can bypass firewalls by attaching to valid programs.
Does anyone know a sure-fire low-level way to detect keyloggers. Like pressing a key a 100 times and seeing if memory is getting consumed, or file writes occurring that shouldn't be happening, or using router logs somehow?

For the truely paranoid, you can do this, as posted by 'someone' on sw:

"My advise would rather be, if you very want to change password on Nexon site, go and get yourself something like Ubuntu Live CD, reboot into it, then change the password using a browser on the Live CD and make it the first thing you do and then log on to your email account and delete the mail that nexon sent to you with the password on it, and don't visit any other website at all on the same boot session. This way you can be sure that:
1. there was no key logger on the system.
2. there can't be any exploit from other site that would affect you when you log into your Nexon account.
3. If there were exploit that attack windows system sitting on Nexon site(since windows is expected), it would not work."

The Linux image is 690Mb, so its taking a while to download. Like i said, for the paranoid.

it was avg antivirus i scanned it right after i noticed my pin was changed and my account was stripped deleted it and it was fine after apparently since i rescanned with online scanners, avg etc and found nothing

Tikey · 2010-01-18, 04:39 AM

I don't know if this will help anyone in Broa in spite of these so-called keylogged items, but here are some of my items to look out for:

Spoiler

Kalovale · 2010-01-18, 04:49 AM

Great, and with IP ban I can't even make new accounts. I guess it's finally Doomsday. Or a new Ice Age where you play the game without Pac, atk WGs and what-nots. Too bad not many people would want to continue.

Zpyke · 2010-01-18, 05:03 AM

Tikey Wrote:I don't know if this will help anyone in Broa in spite of these so-called keylogged items, but here are some of my items to look out for:

Spoiler

The prices are low, and it's actually tempting to buy them.

Spoiler

(The Wand 2 in there is also the same exact stats as mine.)

Spoiler

Spoiler

(The PuAC, PAC, Gi, and Wisdom are all the same stats as mine.)

I was tempted to do the same when I got hacked. But honestly, there's always the possibility that you just found someone else with items that have the same stats. Not to say that they're not yours, though.

I myself was hacked in October of '09. The 1st, iirc. I don't think it was hashing. Then again, I'm far from an expert on how the internet works.

Judgment · 2010-01-18, 05:09 AM

Zpyke Wrote:I was tempted to do the same when I got hacked. But honestly, there's always the possibility that you just found someone else with items that have the same stats. Not to say that they're not yours, though.

I myself was hacked in October of '09. The 1st, iirc. I don't think it was hashing. Then again, I'm far from an expert on how the internet works.

Not to mention that they could be using those items to bait you to buy them so they can hack you again, hoping that vicious cycle repeats.

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