Wash # = hp for pb?

How many washes would you need to do, to have enough hp to handle pb?

if you want to survive PB 100%, it's either wash a pomegranate load or dont bother. when i say pomegranate load, im talking about hp well above 11k clean.

None to survive straight up. 300-350 to survive everything that might get thrown your way, and even then you're not safe.

PB does 12.6k magic damage with its attacks.
PB's Big Bang does 17k damage.
Ariel does 13k damage.
PB's hug does 24k damage.

PB does 12.6k magic damage with its attacks.
PB's Big Bang does 17k damage.
Ariel does 13k damage.
PB's hug does 24k damage.

Do not want.

Going to PB as a bowman is utterly pointless in any case, unless you've already taken the time to wash yourself to a survivable HP.

Well, I know that back a little while ago when PB was first found by SP, they did extensive testing with his attack ranges and found that you could hide underneath the platform he starts out standing on in order to avoid his reverse genesis, and have the warriors pulling aggro on the right side of him, keeping him from hitting you. But I don't know how well that concept works, and I don't think anyone in GMS has actually managed to test it, due to running out of time or dying.

There are still entirely too many other things that do more than 10k damages in that battle. If you have a bowman that has already been washed beyond all compare, that's great, go PB and enjoy it. But otherwise, 95% of gMS bowmen will NEVER have the required HP to survive the entire fight. I have 4800 exactly right now, and I've still 58 more levels to get before the level cap. Saying I even reach 200, my HP would be equal to [4800 + (58 x 25)], which is barely 6250, almost 5k short of the recommended HP needed without HB. And with HB, I'd have exactly 10,000, which STILL isn't enough. So, all in all, one "safe zone" in the PB fight isn't going to save most under-washed bowmen. There are plenty of other places for them to die in that fight.

The only thing that frustrates me about PB is not the fact that I can't go, but the drop list. Assuming we even get MW30 in any decent sort of time frame, the mere fact that PB drops it tells me it will be ludicrously expensive, meaning that most normal people with normal pocketbooks who will never face PB will be stuck with 20 MW forever. And not that that's inherently a bad thing, per se, it's just the fact that MW is super-nice, even at lower levels. So most people are going to want MW30, and most will never get it. I mean, hell, look at MW20. Few guilds HT and it's already few and far between, not to mention more expensive than most people want to pay. And as for anything else it drops, aside from rocks of time, I've no idea. I guess we can just suffice it to say I've never understood the idea of implimenting a boss with such ridiculously high damages. And not only does this one hit for obscene amounts of damage, there's a f'ucking timer. "Hi you have the least amount of time possible to down 7,650,000,000 HP. Good luck!" Yeah...I'll never understand the "fun" in Pink Bean. Seems like a giant waste of time, effort, and potions if you ask me.

I believe all that you need for PB as a ranged attacker is 14k(?). That's what most of our runners "aimed" for when we went. Not exactly sure how many washes is needed though, somewhere around 300 sounds about right now, lol.

This of course is assuming that you intend to tank the magic attacks and not just try and avoid them :3

You most likely won't have to wash at all if you're 180.

You most likely won't have to wash at all if you're 180.

Um, what? Am I missing something here? Just because one is level 180 doesn't guarantee survival. Of course, maybe I just misread something somewhere, or you were talking about someone specifically. At any rate, here's my break down:

Right now on my Marksman, I have 5040 HP unbuffed, but, that's because I have my Mark of Naricain with the Master Adventurer Medal, plus I did 4 levels of AP-> HP. If you add all that up with the 23 HP I'm getting per level, I have ~1000 HP higher than I should have, had I not washed or had +HP equips. Now, that would give me around 4050 at my current level. At 180, which is 37 levels away, I would have 4050 + (37 * 23), which is ~4900 HP at level 180. In my boat specifically, I will have ~6000 HP plus/minus 50 or so. And at level 200, that number jumps up only ~300, giving me ~6300 HP, provided I ever have enough time to waste to get that high. The point is, I haven't washed much at all (maybe 10-15 points at the most), and I do not care to wash any more. I have enough HP to survive most of the normal bosses now anyway. But all in all, I will never possess the HP level to survive anything that flies my way in PB's map. Ever.

Thank God I have no interest in PB at all.

Um, what? Am I missing something here? Just because one is level 180 doesn't guarantee survival. Of course, maybe I just misread something somewhere, or you were talking about someone specifically. At any rate, here's my break down:

Right now on my Marksman, I have 5040 HP unbuffed, but, that's because I have my Mark of Naricain with the Master Adventurer Medal, plus I did 4 levels of AP-> HP. If you add all that up with the 23 HP I'm getting per level, I have ~1000 HP higher than I should have, had I not washed or had +HP equips. Now, that would give me around 4050 at my current level. At 180, which is 37 levels away, I would have 4050 + (37 * 23), which is ~4900 HP at level 180. In my boat specifically, I will have ~6000 HP plus/minus 50 or so. And at level 200, that number jumps up only ~300, giving me ~6300 HP, provided I ever have enough time to waste to get that high. The point is, I haven't washed much at all (maybe 10-15 points at the most), and I do not care to wash any more. I have enough HP to survive most of the normal bosses now anyway. But all in all, I will never possess the HP level to survive anything that flies my way in PB's map. Ever.

Thank God I have no interest in PB at all.

The average archer at 180 with no points ever put in hp has 4162hp. That's 4862 with maple explorer medal and mark of naricain, both pretty easy to get. Zakum/targa/scarlion hat scrolled for hp (if you were rich enough to scroll for dex, you'd be rich enough to hp wash) makes 4922. Swapping out a dex earring for hp earrings with 90hp makes 5012. A 50hp face accessory makes 5062, which is perfectly good to survive, assuming you have decent weapon defense. Not to mention the only time you'll ever need this amount of hp to just to cross the map right while statues are up. This will usually only happen 3 times during the whole fight, depending on your team's approach.

The average archer at 180 with no points ever put in hp has 4162hp. That's 4862 with maple explorer medal and mark of naricain, both pretty easy to get. Zakum/targa/scarlion hat scrolled for hp (if you were rich enough to scroll for dex, you'd be rich enough to hp wash) makes 4922. Swapping out a dex earring for hp earrings with 90hp makes 5012. A 50hp face accessory makes 5062, which is perfectly good to survive, assuming you have decent weapon defense. Not to mention the only time you'll ever need this amount of hp to just to cross the map right while statues are up. This will usually only happen 3 times during the whole fight, depending on your team's approach.

Some bowman use nose/ears/helms for str in order to equip a bow, and let's face it... damage is probably the most important thing for most groups now. And even if you just swapped equips to cross the map, 5012 is pointless considering you'll die either way unless you're lucky enough to get a miss or you have enough HP to take the attack.

Some bowman use nose/ears/helms for str in order to equip a bow, and let's face it... damage is probably the most important thing for most groups now. And even if you just swapped equips to cross the map, 5012 is pointless considering you'll die either way unless you're lucky enough to get a miss or you have enough HP to take the attack.

Not many people use str on faces or earrings to use their weapons, and 99% of those who do are rich enough to hp wash anyways. The helmet thing isn't even relevant because you're not swapping hats or anything. And how will you die either way? 8100hp is fine to survive the shout given decent wdef, and the boulders and lasers are easily dodgeable.

Not many people use str on faces or earrings to use their weapons, and 99% of those who do are rich enough to hp wash anyways. The helmet thing isn't even relevant because you're not swapping hats or anything. And how will you die either way? 8100hp is fine to survive the shout given decent wdef, and the boulders and lasers are easily dodgeable.

Ok, understandable, I only have 2str on ear that I need for my bow. Like I said before, theres no point in washing unless you go all out and in this case, get 8100 atleast (which is alot). 5100 will get you killed, just as 7500 would when crossing, unless you have NL-ish avoid of course f3

Ok, understandable, I only have 2str on ear that I need for my bow. Like I said before, theres no point in washing unless you go all out and in this case, get 8100 atleast (which is alot). 5100 will get you killed, just as 7500 would when crossing, unless you have NL-ish avoid of course f3

8100 as in WITH hyperbody. It came from the 5062 I mentioned earlier (well, technically that makes 8099, but that shouldn't really matter).

Not many people use str on faces or earrings to use their weapons, and 99% of those who do are rich enough to hp wash anyways. The helmet thing isn't even relevant because you're not swapping hats or anything. And how will you die either way? 8100hp is fine to survive the shout given decent wdef, and the boulders and lasers are [SIZE="5"]easily[/SIZE] dodgeable.

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i can easily say you have not been there.

the beam is fast as hell, its not "easy" to dodge and its mostly luck for those of us that dont have the HP. says someone that has actually been there.

It's fast but very predictable, enough so that you can dodge it easily if you actually know what you're doing. It hits up to 23k for a reason, it's obviously meant to be dodgeable.

It's fast but very predictable, enough so that you can dodge it easily if you actually know what you're doing. It hits up to 23k for a reason, it's obviously meant to be dodgeable.

right right.... because you know, i have not tried it myself.....

It's fast but very predictable, enough so that you can dodge it easily if you actually know what you're doing. It hits up to 23k for a reason, it's obviously meant to be dodgeable.

Youre making it sound way too easy. If it was as easy as you're making it out to be then people wouldn't be washing in the first place.

Also there's a difference between knowing something is coming and avoiding it all together.