Marths Foward A Smash

It depends, if i want slight lag before i get the smash out , i'll use the analog + button, If I want it out right away, I'll use the cstick.

Plus B-sticking didn't seem that good with toon link , so I've stuck with C= smash.

Lucarios counter attack and Pikachus down B thunder bolt are both oh sooo annoying f3.

Thought of the moment, why does a melee thread have twice the brawl disscussion that the brawl thread does

Ike has two recovery moves. His up B is for vertical recovery, his forward B is for lateral recovery. Good use of both of them can allow for decent recovery, even if it's not as strong or versatile as other characters. Just be glad it's not as bad as Wolf's.

ps i totally forgot, but guys, C stick is a crutch. Good players don't need it. Don't look at people who use C stick and go "WAH UR CHEAP UNFAIR I HATE YOU". Look at them and go "there's a good chance this person hasn't mastered smash attacks as well as I have." Also: using C stick for RAR sucks balls-- do it like a real man. Also: B sticking is better 8)

I think it depends heavily on the Char. I am using for B or C sticking.
A the controller- Some Char. I play Wii Mote Style. And thus no C-sticking.
GC controller will have me C-sticking till you are dead- or I need a better smash attack.

Lucarios counter attack and Pikachus down B thunder bolt are both oh sooo annoying f3.

Only thing with Lucario's counter is that it's kinda too slow, a vet player could easily read a Lucario counter and shield it in time.

My brother is always Pit and his forward B is so annoying.
I don't play online and no one in my family uses Metaknight so I don't know how annoying his tornado is.
And Ike isn't too bad if you know how to use him.

My favourite character is Lucas though. Lucas > Ness

My brother is always Pit and his forward B is so annoying.
I don't play online and no one in my family uses Metaknight so I don't know how annoying his tornado is.
And Ike isn't too bad if you know how to use him.

My favourite character is Lucas though. Lucas > Ness

Ya.,.
I got pissed..
Cause they claimed NOT to take out any main chars. from Melee only dupes.
Yet we have Lucus. Who to my knowledge has LESS differences than that of Pichu vs Pikachu.
We got some subs- which generally where pretty ok.
Except Lucario for Mewtwo--- Not making me happy.
And again with the nerfing of JigglyPuff. Dr. Mario getting taken out fine..
My 3 favorite chars. Jacked the PineKiwi Up!
...
Now Rob and Jiggly have had to pick up the slack.


To SSBB- Pokemon trainer is genesis for design.

And Ike isn't too bad if you know how to use him.

Yes, he is. Find someone who you consider knows how to use him, and I'll prove it.

Yes, he is. Find someone who you consider knows how to use him, and I'll prove it.

Well my brother uses Ike and he kills me. (Unless that means I suck- LOL)
But I don't know how you can prove it since we don't have Wifi.

Ike can be VERY effective. Ironically, his forward smash is poor to use against people who actually know how to play well (I've personally found it to only be of any great use during free-for-alls), but I've found his forward and down aerials to be very useful (although I always screw up the timing on forward aerial). Down smash can be tough to work with, but his up smash can be GREAT if applied well, even despite it's slow speed. His tilts are better speed-wise overall, but I don't think that's really where he excels either. He's got a nice neutral ground attack and his neutral special is useful in some cases as well. But I really like his forward B. I had a lot of fun trying to nail a Samus-main friend of mine, and it feels REALLY good to hop over his shot and do a falling forward B into him and catch him off guard like that (even though each time I messed up the timing on it, I got OWNED because of it).

The only thing BAD with Ike is that RARing is a bit of a challenge for most, and that's where his best aerial approach is. Oh and his recovery has what I would call a blindspot, but a friend of mine did tell me that if I was to float toward the platform and up B (instead of trying to forward B like I normally do... a habit I've picked up from using Pikachu), I could recover, but I am still pretty sure there's a hole where if Ike gets knocked to, he won't be able to recover using his forward B or his up B (remember: his forward B makes him unable to up B and vice versa, so you only get one).

And yeah, I posted my friend code in the other thread and no one has even asked to play me. I'm a bit disappointed, because I figured there could be some fun play out of you folks.

Oh right the other thread, well, I'll play you if you want Afro, not had much experience with the online, though I don't generally lag.

Brawl FC: 1676-5113-3866

Your probably better than me anyway , you seem more experienced.

Personally, I think Ike sucks, theres plenty of characters I feel are better than him, so in comparision he is bad.
I'm 100% sure that Snake, Metaknight, ROB, Falco , Fox, Ice Climbers ,Mr. Game & Watch, Toon Link, Wolf, Diddy Kong, Marth, Pit, Pikachu are all easily better than ike, and those are just from my personal experience, most of the other characters I've barely touched, but I'm sure quite a few of the others are better too.

Infact, the only character I'm actually sure is worse than ike is Ganondorf

Oh right the other thread, well, I'll play you if you want Afro, not had much experience with the online, though I don't generally lag.

Brawl FC: 1676-5113-3866

Lag will often be reliant on the physical distance between players as well as connection. No matter how good your connection is, if you're on opposite ends of the country, it'll be slow.

And I'll get on and try to add you right now, but I can't stick around long.

Lag will often be reliant on the physical distance between players as well as connection. No matter how good your connection is, if you're on opposite ends of the country, it'll be slow.

And I'll get on and try to add you right now, but I can't stick around long.

I've played people in other continents with no lag, adding you now.

Edit: Any prefered rules?

I've played people in other continents with no lag, adding you now.

That's amazing. Must've been ideal circumstances between you.

Data transfer can be fast, but pushing it through more and more routers, or a far away server doesn't exactly help the process.

ps you're IAN?

Yeah, I'm Ian, and wow, (forget button lag comment, I think i just messed up) Not my day for avoiding sd's , lol.


Good games Afro. Last one was too laggy for my liking, so I'm done for now.