Gamecube is more powerful than the Xbox.

Has anybody actually looked into the specs and raw data of all of the systems of the generation and then compared the raw and performance data?

I remember from a forum I frequented about 3 years ago, there was information posted about a former tester for Square who ran a comparison and came out with evidence of the Gamecube actually being the superior system. Anybody else read this data or have it? I'm not sure if the information got around quite a bit or not, I just want his results sheet for something.

Er...I could react in one of two ways to this.

1) What in the world are you smoking?
2) LOL LOL LOL

Anyways, I couldn't really find it on Google.

I really find that hard to believe, as much as I hate X-Box.

@Claw theres a 3rd way to respond, pass the weed.

There's also a 4th way to respond:

No, the Gamecube is not 'more powerful' than the Xbox. Mainly focusing on graphics potential, it goes in this order: Gamecube>PS2>Xbox.

Gamecube:

• 485 MHz IBM "Gekko" PowerPC CPU.
  
• PowerPC 750CXe based core.[8]
  
• 180 nm IBM copper-wire process. 43 mm² die. 4.9 W dissipation.[8]
  
• Roughly 50 new vector instructions.[8]
  
• 32-bit ALU. 64-bit FPU, usable as 2x32-bit SIMD[8]
  • FPU:1.9Gflops
    
  
  
• 64-bit enhanced PowerPC 60x front side bus to GPU/chipset. 162 MHz clock. 1.3 GB/s peak bandwidth.[8]
  
• 64 KiB L1 cache (32 KiB I/32 KiB D). 8-way associative. 256 KiB on-die L2 cache. 2-way associative.[8]
  
• 1125 DMIPS (dhrystone 2.1)
  

System memory:

• 43 MB total non-unified RAM
  
• 24 MB MoSys 1T-SRAM (codenamed "Splash") main system RAM. 324 MHz, 64-bit bus. 2.7 GB/s bandwidth.[8]
  
• 3 MB embedded 1T-SRAM within "Flipper"". [9]
  • Split into 1 MB texture buffer and 2 MB frame buffer.[9]
    
  • 10.4 GB/s texture bandwidth (peak). 7.6 GB/s framebuffer bandwidth (peak). ~6.2 ns latency.[8]
    
  
  
• 16 MB DRAM used as buffer for DVD drive and audio. 81 MHz, 8-bit bus. 81 MB/s bandwidth.[8]
  

Connectivity:

• 4 controller ports, 2 memory card slots
  
• MultiAV analog audiovisual port: interlaced YPbPr (composite, Y/C) and RGB video, stereophonic analog audio.
  
• Digital audiovisual port: digital interlaced or progressive scan YCBCR video, stereophonic I²S sound.
  
• Resolutions: 480i, 576i, 480p
  
• High-speed Serial Ports: 2
  
• High-speed Parallel Ports: 1
  
• Power supply output: DC12 volts x 3.25 amperes
  
• Physical Measurements: 110 mm (H) × 150 mm (W) × 161 mm (D); [4.3"(H) × 5.9"(W) × 6.3"(D)]
  

• 162 MHz "Flipper" LSI. 180 nm NEC eDRAM-compatible process. Co-developed by Nintendo and ArtX.
  
• 8Gflops
  
• 4 pixel pipelines with 1 texture unit each[8]
  
• TEV "Texture EnVironment" engine (similar to Nvidia's GeForce256 "register combiners")
  
• Fixed-function hardware transform and lighting (T&L). 12+ million polygons/s in-game.[10]
  
• 648 megapixels/second (162 MHz x 4 pipelines), 648 megatexels/second (648 MP x 1 texture units) (peak)
  • Peak triangle performance: 20,250,000 32pixel triangles/sec raw and with 1 texture and lit
    • 337,500 triangles a frame at 60fps
      
    • 675,000 triangles a frame at 30fps
      
    
    
  
  
• 8 texture layers per pass, texture compression, full scene anti-aliasing[10]
  
• 8 simultaneous hardware light
  
• Bilinear, trilinear, and anisotropic texture filtering
  
• Multi-texturing, bump mapping, reflection mapping, 24-bit z-buffer
  
• 24-bit RGB / 32-bit RGBA color depth.
  • Hardware limitations sometimes require a 6r+6g+6b+6a mode (18-bit color), resulting in color banding.
    
  
  
• 720×480 interlaced or progressive scan
  
• Integrated audio processor: Custom 81 MHz Macronix DSP
  • Instruction Memory: 8 KiB RAM, 8 KiB ROM
    
  • Data Memory: 8 KiB RAM, 4 KiB ROM
    
  • 64 channels 16-bit 48 kHz ADPCM[10]
    
  • Dolby Pro Logic II encoded within stereophonic output
    
  
  

Storage media:
For more details on this topic, see Nintendo optical discs.

• Matsushita (2.000 MB/s–3.125 MB/s) CAV mini-DVD-like 8 cm optical disk. Average access time: 128 ms; Capacity: 1.5 GB.
  
• Memory cards of varying sizes for saved game storage.
  

~~~~~~~~~~~


Xbox

• CPU: 32-bit 733 MHz Custom Intel Coppermine-based processor in a Micro-PGA2 package. 180 nm process.[12]
  • SSE floating point SIMD. 4 single-precision floating point numbers per clock cycle.
    
  • MMX integer SIMD.
    
  • 133 MHz 64-bit GTL+ front side bus to GPU.
    
  • 32 KB L1 cache. 128 KB on-die L2 "Advanced Transfer Cache".
    
  
  
• Shared memory subsystem
  • 64 MB DDR SDRAM at 200 MHz; 6.4 GB/s
    
  • Supplied by Hynix or Samsung depending on manufacture date and location.
    
  
  
• GPU and system chipset: 233 MHz "NV2A" ASIC. Co-developed by Microsoft and NVIDIA.
  • Geometry engine: 115 million vertices/second, 125 million particles/second (peak)
    
  • 4 pixel pipelines with 2 texture units each
    
  • 932 megapixels/second (233 MHz x 4 pipelines), 1,864 megatexels/second (932 MP x 2 texture units) (peak)
    • Peak triangle performance (32pixel divided from filrate): 29,125,000 32-pixel triangles/sec raw or w. 2 textures and lit.
      • 485,416 triangles per frame at 60fps
        
      • 970,833 triangles per frame at 30fps
        
      
      
    
    
  • 4 textures per pass, texture compression, full scene anti-aliasing (NV Quincunx, supersampling, multisampling)
    
  • Bilinear, trilinear, and anisotropic texture filtering
    
  • Similar to the GeForce 3 and GeForce 4 PC GPUs.
    
  
  
• Storage media
  • 2x – 5x (2.6 MB/s – 6.6 MB/s) CAV DVD-ROM
    
  • 8 or 10 GB, 3.5 in, 5,400 RPM hard disk. Formatted to 8 GB. FATX file system.
    
  • Optional 8 MB memory card for saved game file transfer.
    
  
  
• Audio processor: NVIDIA "MCPX" (a.k.a. SoundStorm "NVAPU")
  • 64 3D sound channels (up to 256 stereo voices)
    
  • HRTF Sensaura 3D enhancement
    
  • MIDI DLS2 Support
    
  • Monaural, Stereo, Dolby Surround, Dolby Digital Live 5.1, and dts Surround (DVD movies only) audio output options
    
  
  
• Integrated 10/100BASE-TX wired ethernet
  
• DVD movie playback
  
• A/V outputs: composite video, S-Video, component video, SCART, Optical Digital TOSLINK, and stereo RCA analog audio
  
• Resolutions: 480i, 576i, 480p, 720p and 1080i
  
• Controller ports: 4 proprietary USB 1.1 ports
  
• Weight: 3.86 kg (8.5 lb)
  
• Dimensions: 320 × 100 × 260 mm (12.5 × 4 × 10.5 in)
  

 Spoiler

Gamecube:

• 485 MHz IBM "Gekko" PowerPC CPU.
  
• PowerPC 750CXe based core.[8]
  
• 180 nm IBM copper-wire process. 43 mm² die. 4.9 W dissipation.[8]
  
• Roughly 50 new vector instructions.[8]
  
• 32-bit ALU. 64-bit FPU, usable as 2x32-bit SIMD[8]
  • FPU:1.9Gflops
    
  
  
• 64-bit enhanced PowerPC 60x front side bus to GPU/chipset. 162 MHz clock. 1.3 GB/s peak bandwidth.[8]
  
• 64 KiB L1 cache (32 KiB I/32 KiB D). 8-way associative. 256 KiB on-die L2 cache. 2-way associative.[8]
  
• 1125 DMIPS (dhrystone 2.1)
  

System memory:

• 43 MB total non-unified RAM
  
• 24 MB MoSys 1T-SRAM (codenamed "Splash") main system RAM. 324 MHz, 64-bit bus. 2.7 GB/s bandwidth.[8]
  
• 3 MB embedded 1T-SRAM within "Flipper"". [9]
  • Split into 1 MB texture buffer and 2 MB frame buffer.[9]
    
  • 10.4 GB/s texture bandwidth (peak). 7.6 GB/s framebuffer bandwidth (peak). ~6.2 ns latency.[8]
    
  
  
• 16 MB DRAM used as buffer for DVD drive and audio. 81 MHz, 8-bit bus. 81 MB/s bandwidth.[8]
  

Connectivity:

• 4 controller ports, 2 memory card slots
  
• MultiAV analog audiovisual port: interlaced YPbPr (composite, Y/C) and RGB video, stereophonic analog audio.
  
• Digital audiovisual port: digital interlaced or progressive scan YCBCR video, stereophonic I²S sound.
  
• Resolutions: 480i, 576i, 480p
  
• High-speed Serial Ports: 2
  
• High-speed Parallel Ports: 1
  
• Power supply output: DC12 volts x 3.25 amperes
  
• Physical Measurements: 110 mm (H) × 150 mm (W) × 161 mm (D); [4.3"(H) × 5.9"(W) × 6.3"(D)]
  

• 162 MHz "Flipper" LSI. 180 nm NEC eDRAM-compatible process. Co-developed by Nintendo and ArtX.
  
• 8Gflops
  
• 4 pixel pipelines with 1 texture unit each[8]
  
• TEV "Texture EnVironment" engine (similar to Nvidia's GeForce256 "register combiners")
  
• Fixed-function hardware transform and lighting (T&L). 12+ million polygons/s in-game.[10]
  
• 648 megapixels/second (162 MHz x 4 pipelines), 648 megatexels/second (648 MP x 1 texture units) (peak)
  • Peak triangle performance: 20,250,000 32pixel triangles/sec raw and with 1 texture and lit
    • 337,500 triangles a frame at 60fps
      
    • 675,000 triangles a frame at 30fps
      
    
    
  
  
• 8 texture layers per pass, texture compression, full scene anti-aliasing[10]
  
• 8 simultaneous hardware light
  
• Bilinear, trilinear, and anisotropic texture filtering
  
• Multi-texturing, bump mapping, reflection mapping, 24-bit z-buffer
  
• 24-bit RGB / 32-bit RGBA color depth.
  • Hardware limitations sometimes require a 6r+6g+6b+6a mode (18-bit color), resulting in color banding.
    
  
  
• 720×480 interlaced or progressive scan
  
• Integrated audio processor: Custom 81 MHz Macronix DSP
  • Instruction Memory: 8 KiB RAM, 8 KiB ROM
    
  • Data Memory: 8 KiB RAM, 4 KiB ROM
    
  • 64 channels 16-bit 48 kHz ADPCM[10]
    
  • Dolby Pro Logic II encoded within stereophonic output
    
  
  

Storage media:
For more details on this topic, see Nintendo optical discs.

• Matsushita (2.000 MB/s–3.125 MB/s) CAV mini-DVD-like 8 cm optical disk. Average access time: 128 ms; Capacity: 1.5 GB.
  
• Memory cards of varying sizes for saved game storage.
  

~~~~~~~~~~~


Xbox

• CPU: 32-bit 733 MHz Custom Intel Coppermine-based processor in a Micro-PGA2 package. 180 nm process.[12]
  • SSE floating point SIMD. 4 single-precision floating point numbers per clock cycle.
    
  • MMX integer SIMD.
    
  • 133 MHz 64-bit GTL+ front side bus to GPU.
    
  • 32 KB L1 cache. 128 KB on-die L2 "Advanced Transfer Cache".
    
  
  
• Shared memory subsystem
  • 64 MB DDR SDRAM at 200 MHz; 6.4 GB/s
    
  • Supplied by Hynix or Samsung depending on manufacture date and location.
    
  
  
• GPU and system chipset: 233 MHz "NV2A" ASIC. Co-developed by Microsoft and NVIDIA.
  • Geometry engine: 115 million vertices/second, 125 million particles/second (peak)
    
  • 4 pixel pipelines with 2 texture units each
    
  • 932 megapixels/second (233 MHz x 4 pipelines), 1,864 megatexels/second (932 MP x 2 texture units) (peak)
    • Peak triangle performance (32pixel divided from filrate): 29,125,000 32-pixel triangles/sec raw or w. 2 textures and lit.
      • 485,416 triangles per frame at 60fps
        
      • 970,833 triangles per frame at 30fps
        
      
      
    
    
  • 4 textures per pass, texture compression, full scene anti-aliasing (NV Quincunx, supersampling, multisampling)
    
  • Bilinear, trilinear, and anisotropic texture filtering
    
  • Similar to the GeForce 3 and GeForce 4 PC GPUs.
    
  
  
• Storage media
  • 2x – 5x (2.6 MB/s – 6.6 MB/s) CAV DVD-ROM
    
  • 8 or 10 GB, 3.5 in, 5,400 RPM hard disk. Formatted to 8 GB. FATX file system.
    
  • Optional 8 MB memory card for saved game file transfer.
    
  
  
• Audio processor: NVIDIA "MCPX" (a.k.a. SoundStorm "NVAPU")
  • 64 3D sound channels (up to 256 stereo voices)
    
  • HRTF Sensaura 3D enhancement
    
  • MIDI DLS2 Support
    
  • Monaural, Stereo, Dolby Surround, Dolby Digital Live 5.1, and dts Surround (DVD movies only) audio output options
    
  
  
• Integrated 10/100BASE-TX wired ethernet
  
• DVD movie playback
  
• A/V outputs: composite video, S-Video, component video, SCART, Optical Digital TOSLINK, and stereo RCA analog audio
  
• Resolutions: 480i, 576i, 480p, 720p and 1080i
  
• Controller ports: 4 proprietary USB 1.1 ports
  
• Weight: 3.86 kg (8.5 lb)
  
• Dimensions: 320 × 100 × 260 mm (12.5 × 4 × 10.5 in)
  

so.....which ones better?:f6:

Xbox, in almost every way.

Hahaha, my co-worker's friends came into our work once and mentioned that they couldn't even trade in the gamecube for anything at like game crazy or game stop.

Thats because the GC is selling for so crazy cheap new, and even moreso used, that trying to trade it in will get you a couple of bucks at the most, but barely any at that.

[COLOR="Indigo"]I'll admit, I'm a Nintendo fangirl and I love my GameCube, but saying it's more powerful than an XBox? I lol'd. Even without seeing the specs, it doesn't sound very believable.

For the size of it, it's definitely a snappy little box. I chuckled a bit at seeing the processors used in both machines--the GC uses a PowerPC (which is the same as what was used in Apple's computers for quite some time) and the XBox uses an Intel processor (the ever-popular one seen in most PCs for a long long time).

But with a bigger case, you can get more power. It would be very very hard to make something the size of a GC be incredibly powerful, whereas with a XBox, you've got lots more room--especially for a more powerful fan to keep things cool.

I find it rather amusing that GCs have next to no retail value these days--makes me all the more glad I got mine for less than $5 3 years ago

~Lyssa[/COLOR]

Xbox is much more powerful however, RISC processors (ie PowerPC) are generally able to do simple mathematics much faster, just because they have a smaller instruction set. What we need to know is the actualy floating point operations per second, which for the Gamecube is apparently 1.9G. I don't see a number for the Xbox. But once again Xbox is much more powerful.

I actually met the people who made some of the hardware used for the xbox and xbox 360 -- they are more powerful in every single way