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*looked but didnt find any info*
Have belt scrolls been added this patch or do we already have it in the data?
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Cyanne Wrote:Compared to the amount of people that play maple, there really aren't that many card hunters in-game. We've probably all experienced it disproportionately because a ton of people on this forum seem to enjoy card hunting, but the vast majority of players don't visit Southperry. In-game, I only personally know like 1-2 people who actually hunted things for their cards, and they don't do it much anymore and wouldn't go through the insanity of killing a non-major boss for its horribly low rate of card drop.
Yeah we get the old system, at least according to the announcement.
Whats special about the old system? Are the exp rates any better than regular training or anything?
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BMW Wrote:Whats special about the old system? Are the exp rates any better than regular training or anything?
Bowmasters and Corsairs having or beating the same training speed as fourth job mages sound good to you?
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BMW Wrote:Whats special about the old system? Are the exp rates any better than regular training or anything? Skip thread much?
The guage bar thing (whatever we'll call it...) charges when you attack. Can be easily taken advantage of but gives other classes a chance at getting far in the PQ...
And a video was posting where someone saved before Pap and went back and forth. See the take advantage part?
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Kalovale Wrote:Question. How does saving work? Both for solo and party attempts? Does each member has to save their progress in order that the whole party gets to resume the next time they try? Or does only the party leader have to save? What if the party changes leadership? [/urlname]
You can only save in solo mode. And you can only do it every 5 floors when you get to one of the rest floors by talking to the NPC there.
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No saving in party mode?! Wtp Nexon? How am I gonna farm points now?
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:You can only save in solo mode. And you can only do it every 5 floors when you get to one of the rest floors by talking to the NPC there.
So you can't leech a BM huh? 
At least it might make people whine less (?), but I'm glad the game doesn't get any more broken.
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well then, i guess i can finally gte my wind archer to 120 since Nexon saw it in their best judgement to not give Wind Archers Hawk which makes it dam near impossible to train without potting every monster you kill(thikns of newties) or getting leeched(thats not how i roll) so hurricane ftw and i will admit imma abuse this glitch to get it that last 20 levels, they shoulda given Windarchers Hawk >.> That being said, i will not stay in the pq and train my corsair, doing some calculations,,, if its 596,000 exp per 1st body of pap... and say it takes you 1 min to kill it... and you save before and re-run it like mad like that 1 bm was doing... thats... 35760000 exp per min on 1X.... (assuming 2x card works) thats 71520000 exp per hour on 2x.... thats better than Skeles with a 2hko bish on 4X.... BUTTTT i know its wrong... and as the Top Legit corsair in Bera I MUST SET AN EXAMPLE ... right?
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fiftyschmooo Wrote:well then, i guess i can finally gte my wind archer to 120 since Nexon saw it in their best judgement to not give Wind Archers Hawk which makes it dam near impossible to train without potting every monster you kill(thikns of newties) or getting leeched(thats not how i roll) so hurricane ftw and i will admit imma abuse this glitch to get it that last 20 levels, they shoulda given Windarchers Hawk >.> That being said, i will not stay in the pq and train my corsair, doing some calculations,,, if its 596,000 exp per 1st body of pap... and say it takes you 1 min to kill it... and you save before and re-run it like mad like that 1 bm was doing... thats... 35760000 exp per min on 1X.... (assuming 2x card works) thats 71520000 exp per hour on 2x.... thats better than Skeles with a 2hko bish on 4X.... BUTTTT i know its wrong... and as the Top Legit corsair in Bera I MUST SET AN EXAMPLE ... right?
Actually, as abusive as it seems, i don't consider this one a glitch.
It's using the mechanics exactly as they were designed, it was just a really poor design.
Bigfoot being poisonable - That was a glitch and clearly a mistake.
Being able to save and redo a portion of the dojo, that's design.
Certain classes being able to accrue bamboo insanely fast - Design again.
It's a definite unfair advantage, but not really a glitch.
If they wanted to be fair about it they could just nerf his XP like they did for bigfoot, but honestly, that was 3m every 2 minutes for nothing. This is still going to be some effort and considerably more time.
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eos367 Wrote:If they wanted to be fair about it they could just nerf his XP like they did for bigfoot, but honestly, that was 3m every 2 minutes for nothing. This is still going to be some effort and considerably more time.
The difference is that here you will never use pots, never lose exp if you die, and can just keep killing forever due to unlimited number of spawns. I agree that the design itself was flawed to give BMs a very large advantage, but whatcha gonna do? Doesn't matter to me. Enjoy your leveling guys!
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eos367 Wrote:Actually, as abusive as it seems, i don't consider this one a glitch.
It's using the mechanics exactly as they were designed, it was just a really poor design.
Bigfoot being poisonable - That was a glitch and clearly a mistake.
Being able to save and redo a portion of the dojo, that's design.
Certain classes being able to accrue bamboo insanely fast - Design again.
It's a definite unfair advantage, but not really a glitch.
If they wanted to be fair about it they could just nerf his XP like they did for bigfoot, but honestly, that was 3m every 2 minutes for nothing. This is still going to be some effort and considerably more time.
okay you said its fine to do it  lol
and does anyone know if.. .you say.. save your PQ right before the PaP boss and then keep reloading it and Tanking PaP like this, will it still give you the Pap medal? (i currentally have no medals and even if it only adds liek 1/1/1/1 it would be helpful for me)
ohhhh i kinda hope they keep this "nerfed" way of it... we got some 2X event on thursday dont we... muhahhahaha >.>
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Brb making a bowmaster before patch to fix the glitch
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Since they changed it in KMS Ive never been able to fill the bar so I do prefer the original method. They should have just done a work around for Corsairs and Bowmasters, rather than changing how it works.
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Kirov Wrote:Since they changed it in KMS Ive never been able to fill the bar so I do prefer the original method. They should have just done a work around for Corsairs and Bowmasters, rather than changing how it works.
If it really comes down to it, i'd prefer they just nerf Mu lung pap down to 10k exp or something, and leave the pq actually finishable.
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Maybe i can finally get some levels on my Corsair. He's stuck in the mid 13x hell where a lot of skills aren't maxed, and it's difficult to kill skeles quickly without taking a lot of damage.
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eos367 Wrote:This is still going to be some effort and considerably more time.
I would have agreed if I had not seen this video already: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BtU6-CguVc&NR=1
The player downs pap in a little over 90 seconds, and all of its attacks seem to miss her completely. I mean, in the whole video she's never hit once. I just don't think this takes any more time or effort than the poisoned bigfoot glitching (as an example).
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Avoidant Wrote:I would have agreed if I had not seen this video already: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BtU6-CguVc&NR=1
The player downs pap in a little over 90 seconds, and all of its attacks seem to miss her completely. I mean, in the whole video she's never hit once. I just don't think this takes any more time or effort than the poisoned bigfoot glitching (as an example). that bubble around the person is a shield that prevents you from taking damage.
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IsaacGS Wrote:that bubble around the person is a shield that prevents you from taking damage.
Ah, that makes sense then.
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Zenkat Wrote:Maybe i can finally get some levels on my Corsair. He's stuck in the mid 13x hell where a lot of skills aren't maxed, and it's difficult to kill skeles quickly without taking a lot of damage. 
Ice splitter. xP
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