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Finally, improvement.
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Quote:NEW YORK – The American Psychological Association declared Wednesday that mental health professionals should not tell gay clients they can become straight through therapy or other treatments.

Instead, the APA urged therapists to consider multiple options — that could range from celibacy to switching churches — for helping clients whose sexual orientation and religious faith conflict.

In a resolution adopted on a 125-to-4 vote by the APA's governing council, and in a comprehensive report based on two years of research, the 150,000-member association put itself firmly on record in opposition of so-called "reparative therapy" which seeks to change sexual orientation.

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Hm, took a while but at least the superedneck south will actually get a slight bit of change.
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#2
You are a pineappleing hypocrit.

Edit: Realized this wasn't the funhouse. What I mean to say is, you pee'd yourself around quantact and just used the word Redneck, with a "super" I might add. Same dealie, very ignorant.
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#3
Those guys won't listen to the APA. Even for people with an education, shrinks are iffy... they talk in psychobabble, and half the crap they use (IQ tests) are not universally accepted or even valid. It's a young discipline, and while it's useful, it's not exactly a science like physics, at least not right now.

Edit: peed himself around me? What in blazes is that supposed to mean? O.o
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#4
Something about you getting tired of pictures of indecently exposed men.
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#5
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That's long ago and far away,
I haven't done that pomegranate in a while.
Quantact and I aren't at eachother's throats that much anymore.

But uhm, hypocrite?
Do you not know the history of the south and homosexuals?
It was basically you were forced into psychological sessions until you went crazy enough to think you were straight, or just completely lied about it.
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#6
Tykian Wrote:Something about you getting tired of pictures of indecently exposed men.

Since that incident is over, I see no further need for conflict regarding a situation that's since been resolved.
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#7
Again Quantact, I simply referenced you, I am not talking to you.

I will say this Vernacular. You are both technically minorities. I recall you being very distraught when yours was attacked. I'm simply saying you might think to better word your posts next time. I frankly don't give a pineapple what they've done to you, or vice versa. Also, before you come onto me, I'm openly bisexual. I just dislike hypocrisy. Though I'm sure someone will dig up a post of me being a hypocrit now.
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Quantact Wrote:It's a young discipline, and while it's useful, it's not exactly a science like physics, at least not right now.

Psychology IS considered a science you know?
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#9
I'm surprised to hear this coming out now since sexual orientation had already been taken out of the DSM IV many, many years ago according to at least one of my psychology professors. O-o But yay for officialness I guess...

Quantact Wrote:Those guys won't listen to the APA. Even for people with an education, shrinks are iffy... they talk in psychobabble, and half the crap they use (IQ tests) are not universally accepted or even valid. It's a young discipline, and while it's useful, it's not exactly a science like physics, at least not right now.

As Rob said, psychology IS a science. As for science like physics, which science really IS like physics? It is the oldest one. Biochemistry and bio-engineering are also comparatively young sciences (well really anything compared with physics is) and look at the advances made in that field. Young they might be, but they are still science disciplines built around the same scientific principles.

And "psychobabble" you refer to is actually effective therapy, with psychotherapy sometimes being at least as effective, if not more than, drugs. All of my psychology professors were aware of the validity of IQ tests and all of them pretty much shoved it down our throats about how little information such tests actually reveal. They value empirical evidence as much as the next scientist. Whaddya know.
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RobMdza Wrote:Psychology IS considered a science you know?

What explained is that science requires a lot of observations of a lot different situations, and preferably same situation which yields the same result when same input is given. If that's not case, we may either suspect quantum physics, or more realistically, we don't know all the variables yet.

When playing with humans, this is actually getting quite tabooish for some. It's like gene-manipulating on a way lower scale.
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