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Energy Orb
#21
WHAT!?Hothead

2500/930*2453=5934.677%
1500/930*2453=3956.451%
1250/930*2453=3297.043%
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#22
Video time.

[youtube]SHyIattIexQ[/youtube]
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#23
Man, max Orb better be a hell of a lot stronger. Level 1 Orb is doing like less damage than freaking Iron Arrow.
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#24
Dusk Wrote:Man, max Orb better be a hell of a lot stronger. Level 1 Orb is doing like less damage than freaking Iron Arrow.
**Note: Do not look at my damage. I'm very poor in that category, with a 19xx ~ 33xx damage range with Energy Charge.
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#25
Dusk Wrote:Man, max Orb better be a hell of a lot stronger. Level 1 Orb is doing like less damage than freaking Iron Arrow.
300% -> 900%

Whee.
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#26
Russt Wrote:300% -> 900%

Whee.

Oh, right, forgot I had access to resources like that. That's a really broken skilltable. At least not as bad as all the WK and Outlaw ones, though.
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#27
Dusk Wrote:Oh, right, forgot I had access to resources like that.
Sarcasm or no?
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#28
from loose's video it seems like the whole DS is 2.250 seconds(the bar at the bottom)so energy orb outdamages DS when maxed, i will see when orb becomes better than DS to know if its worth it
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#29
66alex66 Wrote:from loose's video it seems like the whole DS is 2.250 seconds(the bar at the bottom)so energy orb outdamages DS when maxed, i will see when orb becomes better than DS to know if its worth it

hmm you're right. Has Dragon Strike always been a 2.25 second cooldown then? There was absolutely no way I can chain CBS/DS before the patch changes because cooldown was too long. I know that much, and in my mind it indeed took about 2.25 seconds to to a CSB/DS combo. What was the cooldown then before for DS? I already forgot because it was that bad. :f6:

*I think it was ~3-3.25 seconds for Dragon Strike spamming before the KMST changes. Dang that means Dragon Strike got an additional +~10 attacks in (~30 DS's/minute now vs ~20 DS''s/minute before)
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#30
IllegallySane Wrote:hmm you're right. Has Dragon Strike always been a 2.25 second cooldown then? There was absolutely no way I can chain CBS/DS before the patch changes because cooldown was too long. I know that much, and in my mind it indeed took about 2.25 seconds to to a CSB/DS combo. What was the cooldown then before for DS? I already forgot because it was that bad. :f6:

*I think it was ~3-3.25 seconds for Dragon Strike spamming before the KMST changes. Dang that means Dragon Strike got an additional +~10 attacks in (~30 DS's/minute now vs ~20 DS''s/minute before)

It's been stated several times already that the cooldown time for Dragon Strike was 2.25 seconds prior to the KMS skill updates.
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#31
monster #s
1 l 2 l 3 l 4 l 5 l 6 l =total>DS total(on its max targets)
725 l 479=1204>1100
774 l 511=1285>1160
822 l 543=1365>1220
871 l 575=1446>1280
919 l 607=1526>1340
967 l 639=1606>1400
1016 l 671 l 443=2130>1460
1064 l 702 l 464=2230>1520
1113 l 734 l 485=2332>1580
1161 l 766 l 506=2433>1640
1234 l 814 l 537=2585>2375
1282 l 846 l 558=2686>2450
1330 l 878 l 579 l 382=3169>2525
1379 l 910 l 600 l 396=3285>2600
1427 l 942 l 622 l 410=3401>2675
1476 l 974 l 643 l 424=3517>2750
1524 l 1006 l 664 l 438=3632>2825
1572 l 1038 l 685 l 452=3747>2900
1621 l 1070 l 706 l 466 l 308=4171>2975
1669 l 1102 l 727 l 480 l 317=4295>3050
1742 l 1150 l 759 l 501 l 330=4482>4050
1790 l 1181 l 780 l 515 l 340=4605>4140
1838 l 1213 l 801 l 529 l 349=4730>4230
1887 l 1245 l 822 l 542 l 358=4854>4320
1935 l 1277 l 843 l 556 l 367 l 242=5220>4410
1984 l 1309 l 864 l 570 l 376 l 248=5351>4500
2032 l 1341 l 885 l 584 l 386 l 254=5482>4590
2080 l 1373 l 906 l 598 l 395 l 260=5612>4680
2129 l 1405 l 927 l 612 l 404 l 267=5744>4770
2177 l 1437 l 948 l 626 l 413 l 272=5873>4860

this is showing the damage done by orb in 1 DS
orb is a bit better with the new updates
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#32
I guess ill max demo now, get SI to 11 and then start leveling this, good thing I checked. But man.. so many skills... and then snatch too... B>Second keyboard and extra hands.
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#33
66alex66 Wrote:orb is a bit better with the new updates

Considering the damage only scales down with more targets, it'll outdamage DS on any number of targets.
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#34
66alex66 Wrote:monster #s
1 l 2 l 3 l 4 l 5 l 6 l =total>DS total(on its max targets)
725 l 479=1204>1100
774 l 511=1285>1160
822 l 543=1365>1220
871 l 575=1446>1280
919 l 607=1526>1340
967 l 639=1606>1400
1016 l 671 l 443=2130>1460
1064 l 702 l 464=2230>1520
1113 l 734 l 485=2332>1580
1161 l 766 l 506=2433>1640
1234 l 814 l 537=2585>2375
1282 l 846 l 558=2686>2450
1330 l 878 l 579 l 382=3169>2525
1379 l 910 l 600 l 396=3285>2600
1427 l 942 l 622 l 410=3401>2675
1476 l 974 l 643 l 424=3517>2750
1524 l 1006 l 664 l 438=3632>2825
1572 l 1038 l 685 l 452=3747>2900
1621 l 1070 l 706 l 466 l 308=4171>2975
1669 l 1102 l 727 l 480 l 317=4295>3050
1742 l 1150 l 759 l 501 l 330=4482>4050
1790 l 1181 l 780 l 515 l 340=4605>4140
1838 l 1213 l 801 l 529 l 349=4730>4230
1887 l 1245 l 822 l 542 l 358=4854>4320
1935 l 1277 l 843 l 556 l 367 l 242=5220>4410
1984 l 1309 l 864 l 570 l 376 l 248=5351>4500
2032 l 1341 l 885 l 584 l 386 l 254=5482>4590
2080 l 1373 l 906 l 598 l 395 l 260=5612>4680
2129 l 1405 l 927 l 612 l 404 l 267=5744>4770
2177 l 1437 l 948 l 626 l 413 l 272=5873>4860

this is showing the damage done by orb in 1 DS
orb is a bit better with the new updates

Wait a minute, how is it a level 30 Energy Orb can deal 2,177% damage to one enemy when the damage is 900%? Does not compute. :f6:
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#35
IllegallySane Wrote:Wait a minute, how is it a level 30 Energy Orb can deal 2,177% damage to one enemy when the damage is 900%? Does not compute. :f6:
Thinking it's the amount of Energy Orbs you can pull off in the same amount of time you do a single, spammed, Dragon Strike. Goggleemoticon
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#36
lern2
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#37
That, and don't forget to account for being able to, in a way, 'telecast' DS, and it's vastly larger hitbox (at least initially).
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#38
Russt Wrote:...and it's vastly larger hitbox (at least initially).
But once past that, Orb wreaks havoc and gets a massive range increase.
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#39
Holy moly! Barrage can stun! O.o Sorry if this is already known. I didn't know about it.

Can dragon strike crit if barrage was used before it?
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#40
Indignation Wrote:Holy moly! Barrage can stun! O.o Sorry if this is already known. I didn't know about it.

Can dragon strike crit if barrage was used before it?

Indeed. Any technique used after Barrage on the same monster, a critical has a chance to activate.
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