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Points to get a belt from boss rush PQ
#1
How many for each one? Is it upgraded in a pirate hat type fashion or can you save points and get the best one asap?
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#2
um, I'm unable to see how many for each one since I already got my black belt. the only one I know off the top of my head is that black belt is 17,000 points. the points are done like pirate PQ, as in you just keep accumulating, and when you get a belt the points aren't reduced.
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#3
blitzkrieg Wrote:um, I'm unable to see how many for each one since I already got my black belt. the only one I know off the top of my head is that black belt is 17,000 points. the points are done like pirate PQ, as in you just keep accumulating, and when you get a belt the points aren't reduced.

How many points does each stage give then? ;-;
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#4
stage 1-5: 2 points, then it increases by 1 point for every 5 stages. this is for solo PQ. for party PQ, it starts at 1 point and increases by 1 every 5 stages.

and I just got un-lazy and checked the belt prices on my cygnus. here they are:

white belt : 200 points
yellow belt : 1800 points
blue belt : 4000 points
red belt : 9200 points
black belt : 17000 points
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#5
I think i'm going to have to kill myself to get even a blue belt in that case. >_>
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#6
lmao yeah. most people I know have only gotten white or yellow belts lol. I about died getting the black one hahah.
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#7
Is there any competing to get in like other PQs or can you generally just click straight in? o.o
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#8
nope, no competing. as far as I know, the maps are instanced.. or there's a ton of them.
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#9
Yeah, I remember PQing with TJ and a few others at Mu Lung PQ on my Soul Master and Striker to get my White Belt. Man, that took a long freaking time to do just for 200 points. I just hope it goes a little faster on my Viper, since I'm a lot stronger than my Striker and Soul Master were. lol
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#10
Well, new goal I guess for a lot of people. Karma'd belts are gonna be worth a shiit ton...or can they not be?
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#11
blitzkrieg Wrote:stage 1-5: 2 points, then it increases by 1 point for every 5 stages. this is for solo PQ. for party PQ, it starts at 1 point and increases by 1 every 5 stages.

And how many stages are there total?
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#12
Isn't there a bonus received for clearing the entire PQ? If I calculate this right. To even get the Black Belt, that requires...

First let's assume perfect PQ clearing. Since each stage gives 2 points + 1 additional per 5 additional round, that's (5x2)+(5x3)+(5x4)+(5x5)+(5x6)+(5x7)+(2x8)=151 points per solo PQ. For a party Mu Lung PQ, it's reduced to: 119 points per party PQ.

Divide by 17k. We get: 113 (112.5) solo PQs to get the belt. 143 (142.8) party PQs for the belt. Now an additional 30 PQs may seem like a pain, but remember that soloing as a crappy DPS class (mage for example) will have them take far too long to clear one. At least with a 6 man it'll cut down time substantially.

Let's use a realistic example of a 15x-16x class clearing it solo. The 198 BM on Youtube cleared the whole thing in about 15 minutes. That would mean a 15x-16x will need about 25-30 minutes to clear it themselves (I assume buff items can't be used, so no Apples to cheat through this). 113 x 25-30 = 2,825-3,390 minutes (~47 - 56.5 hours of non-stop PQing) to get the belt.

Now if we had a 6 man party I am sure the party can easily approach or exceed the speed of the 198 BM soloing it. But at best I can probably realistically shave off 3 minutes off from various areas where the BM didn't instantly killed, and since the final boss Mu Gong is easily borked with 6 people whaling on him. Party PQ, I can give 12-15 minutes to clear em all. 143 x 12-15 = 1,716-2,145 minutes (28.6 - 35.75 hours of non-stop PQing) to get the black belt.

Lesson here? Soloing is a terrible idea. Group up with other high DPS, someone with strong summons to one shot the earlier monsters, at least one Bishop for Dispel purposes and keeping the group alive, maybe a Buccaneer to reset cooldowns to kill things even faster, and a SE-er to really wreak havoc. Misc will be DrKs for HB.
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#13
MasPan Wrote:Well, new goal I guess for a lot of people. Karma'd belts are gonna be worth a shiit ton...or can they not be?

they can. black belts are currently worth about 175m.

Zpyke Wrote:And how many stages are there total?

not sure sorry.. according to IllegallySane, I guess 32? I've never completed it.

IllegallySane Wrote:Isn't there a bonus received for clearing the entire PQ? If I calculate this right. To even get the Black Belt, that requires...

First let's assume perfect PQ clearing. Since each stage gives 2 points + 1 additional per 5 additional round, that's (5x2)+(5x3)+(5x4)+(5x5)+(5x6)+(5x7)+(2x8)=151 points per solo PQ. For a party Mu Lung PQ, it's reduced to: 119 points per party PQ.

Divide by 17k. We get: 113 (112.5) solo PQs to get the belt. 143 (142.8) party PQs for the belt. Now an additional 30 PQs may seem like a pain, but remember that soloing as a crappy DPS class (mage for example) will have them take far too long to clear one. At least with a 6 man it'll cut down time substantially.

Let's use a realistic example of a 15x-16x class clearing it solo. The 198 BM on Youtube cleared the whole thing in about 15 minutes. That would mean a 15x-16x will need about 25-30 minutes to clear it themselves (I assume buff items can't be used, so no Apples to cheat through this). 113 x 25-30 = 2,825-3,390 minutes (~47 - 56.5 hours of non-stop PQing) to get the belt.

Now if we had a 6 man party I am sure the party can easily approach or exceed the speed of the 198 BM soloing it. But at best I can probably realistically shave off 3 minutes off from various areas where the BM didn't instantly killed, and since the final boss Mu Gong is easily borked with 6 people whaling on him. Party PQ, I can give 12-15 minutes to clear em all. 143 x 12-15 = 1,716-2,145 minutes (28.6 - 35.75 hours of non-stop PQing) to get the black belt.

Lesson here? Soloing is a terrible idea. Group up with other high DPS, someone with strong summons to one shot the earlier monsters, at least one Bishop for Dispel purposes and keeping the group alive, maybe a Buccaneer to reset cooldowns to kill things even faster, and a SE-er to really wreak havoc. Misc will be DrKs for HB.

sorry, as I haven't completed the dojo, I don't know if there's a bonus or not.. but I kinda doubt it. & yeah soloing is definitely a bad idea. but unfortunately you guys will be able to use apples. you can use a buff right before you go in (like in CPQ).
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#14
hey what are the stats of each belt?
tell me pl0x
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#15
White Yellow Blue Red Black

White gives +1 all stats
Yellow gives +2
So on and so forth
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#16
I believe that guy IllegalyScene [sorry for typo if there is one] is right. The boss count is right around 32, if not 32.
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#17
Is this GMS? I dont understand a word you guys saying.

what is a boss rush pq? what belt?
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#18
Sure we can use apples, but ~3m for ~100+ points doesn't sound worth it to me. That plus the attack buff from the PQ would be extremely sexy damage though. *-*
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#19
Takebacker Wrote:Sure we can use apples, but ~3m for ~100+ points doesn't sound worth it to me. That plus the attack buff from the PQ would be extremely sexy damage though. *-*

oh, I guess I forgot to mention the new feature that was added a few patches ago. now at the rest points inbetween each 5 stages, you can set a checkpoint. so you don't have to waste time from the apple on stages like mano, stumpy etc. use apple, start at blue mushmom, kill crimson rog, manon, griffey, pap etc.

and they totally fuucked up the skills too! now you have to take damage to increase your rage bar, rather than deal damage. the rage bar is increased at EXTREMELY slow intervals while you're getting hit. I've never even filled it up one time since the change took place. it was added after nexon noticed the glitch they created which allowed captains and bowmasters to fill up their rage bars in a matter of seconds with rapid fire & hurricane.
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#20
blitzkrieg Wrote:oh, I guess I forgot to mention the new feature that was added a few patches ago. now at the rest points inbetween each 5 stages, you can set a checkpoint. so you don't have to waste time from the apple on stages like mano, stumpy etc. use apple, start at blue mushmom, kill crimson rog, manon, griffey, pap etc.

and they totally fuucked up the skills too! now you have to take damage to increase your rage bar, rather than deal damage. the rage bar is increased at EXTREMELY slow intervals while you're getting hit. I've never even filled it up one time since the change took place. it was added after nexon noticed the glitch they created which allowed captains and bowmasters to fill up their rage bars in a matter of seconds with rapid fire & hurricane.

Yeah, it sucks, but i'm just glad marauders can clear the whole PQ without much HP/MP problems thanks to drain/MP recov. :3
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