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LuxAeterna Wrote:might not be "GM commands" because last time i checked when a GM removes a mob from a map ("1 hit kill") no drops come from it
Takebacker Wrote:If he can emulate GM commands he would probably have banned your ass in a second for the lulz. >_> So why didn't he? Because he's not emulating GM commands. As far as i know, if a GM kills something with that no drops come from it.
Wrong. Even if a GM uses their kill command monsters still drop items.
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Sivrat Wrote:nexon solution: make all the HT drops other then pendant available from gacha boxes, therebye making the drop worthless on their own, and giving hackers no mesos for them.
And in the process make tonnes of money off of it while they're at it! Win win eh?!
As some people have said, solutions to hacks dont just show up with the snap of a finger. Give them time to work on it and hope things arent thrown <too> out of whack in the meantime.
Im not sure about everyone else, but every day, I go up in ranks without training, meaning they are banning people. Course, new hackers come up every day but they're already banning them as much as possible.
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Quote:Im not sure about everyone else, but every day, I go up in ranks without training, meaning they are banning people. Course, new hackers come up every day but they're already banning them as much as possible.
I actually see alot less hackers at Windraiders now. Personally I would like to see Nexon go after people that develop hacks the same way they go after pserver developers. Doubt its going to happen, but it would be nice.
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Moonlapse Wrote:I actually see alot less hackers at Windraiders now. Personally I would like to see Nexon go after people that develop hacks the same way they go after pserver developers. Doubt its going to happen, but it would be nice.
Yeah, we apparently got booked for "showing ways to exploit glitches" and hacking sites get away scot-free. I believe Nexon should shut them down, along with other game producers.
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Takebacker Wrote:If he can emulate GM commands he would probably have banned your ass in a second for the lulz. >_> So why didn't he? Because he's not emulating GM commands. As far as i know, if a GM kills something with that no drops come from it.
you are right, and you do need a special client for it. When you become a GM you get a link to download special client and a GM handbook, with all the GM commands/item/monster numbers (by numbers i mean code)
this isnt using GM commands, but it is something that needs immediate attention. 5 HT kills in 2.5 hours in Mardia is enough.
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I'm starting to come to the conclusion that Nexon doesn't care about these hackers, even the HT hackers. About 2 days ago, a few of my friends decided to take some action against hackers because Nexon isn't. Using a second computer, they help sign up HT mules and hold the Cave for legit runs only. They successfully held the cave for roughly 15-17 hours I believe. This holding came to abrupt stop when one of the mules that was holding it was banned by a GM. It wasn't an autoban, this ban was surely done by a GM. GM's are fully aware of these HT hackings, why aren't they doing anything?
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I doubt they have access to Gm only codes, think about it, if they could use gm commands would they start abusing the !killall command to get some exp/drops or the !item command and flooding the market with gm scrolls and every other thing thats valuable?.
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TheTyphoon Wrote:This holding came to abrupt stop when one of the mules that was holding it was banned by a GM. It wasn't an autoban, this ban was surely done by a GM.
I wonder if this is the reason why HT has been hacked in Scania, which is a server where one certain guild holds HT to monopolize it. If that's the case, sure banning HT hoggers is reasonable, but they still continue to defy logic when it comes to them ignoring hackers.
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Judgment Wrote:I wonder if this is the reason why HT has been hacked in Scania, which is a server where one certain guild holds HT to monopolize it. If that's the case, sure banning HT hoggers is reasonable, but they still continue to defy logic when it comes to them ignoring hackers. 
I agree that HT hoggers should be banned, but its the fact that they know quite well that people are hacking HT and do nothing about it.
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yeah. lets make obligatory thread to complain about how the new hacks suck and nexon isnt doing anything about it(actually, that might make for a good sticky, if well monitored and if things get out of hand, replies removed. Probably not though). Seriously, i think we all agree that this pomegranate is getting out of hand. I still think GMS should start banning by MAC address. Would get rid of nearly all the script kiddies who cant change it, and would inconvenience, at the very least, the more knowledgeable hackers. And no running into the whole "public" problem like IP ban would. Just, this PC was hacking, this pc cannot play anymore.(of course it'd be for repeat offenders, not 1-2 time offenders)
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Sivrat Wrote:yeah. lets make obligatory thread to complain about how the new hacks suck and nexon isnt doing anything about it(actually, that might make for a good sticky, if well monitored and if things get out of hand, replies removed. Probably not though). Seriously, i think we all agree that this pomegranate is getting out of hand. I still think GMS should start banning by MAC address. Would get rid of nearly all the script kiddies who cant change it, and would inconvenience, at the very least, the more knowledgeable hackers. And no running into the whole "public" problem like IP ban would. Just, this PC was hacking, this pc cannot play anymore.(of course it'd be for repeat offenders, not 1-2 time offenders)
The hacking forums that distribute hacks would just link to guides on the net elsewhere that teach them how to change MAC addresses. Not that hard.
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Harrisonized Wrote:Reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcXGtRQfIhg
the day that comes to GMS, we're all screwed
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TheTyphoon Wrote:the day that comes to GMS, we're all screwed
Definitely. Auto Kill DURING an HT run. sheesh.
Off Topic: lols at the flames in the comments in that video. XD
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Judgment Wrote:I wonder if this is the reason why HT has been hacked in Scania, which is a server where one certain guild holds HT to monopolize it. If that's the case, sure banning HT hoggers is reasonable, but they still continue to defy logic when it comes to them ignoring hackers. 
It wasn't an attempt to monopolize HT, it was an attempt to keep hackers out. GM's ban legit players holding the HT cave from hackers, but do absolutely nothing when it comes to the people actually hacking it.
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Afaik No-Delay is client sided. well the damage is server sided. but other people see someone standing still, doing nothing and monsters dying around him. well at his screen everything is going mental.
anyway, The Emergency Patch is probaly to change encryption. since WZ Repackers got released a few days ago.
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Avenge Wrote:GM's ban legit players holding the HT cave from hackers, but do absolutely nothing when it comes to the people actually hacking it.
You know nothing about Vengeance.
Edit: Sorry, I misinterpreted what you wrote. I thought the "it" was referring to something Vengeance did and that you were grouping them with the likes of legit people that keep hackers out of HT, but now I realize you aren't.
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Findings Wrote:You know nothing about Vengeance.
Do I want to? Or is some guild hogging HT cave suddenly the topic of this discussion? I wasn't talking about legits holding from legits to monopolize or w/e.
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Avenge Wrote:It wasn't an attempt to monopolize HT, it was an attempt to keep hackers out. GM's ban legit players holding the HT cave from hackers, but do absolutely nothing when it comes to the people actually hacking it.
Yeah, it's totally the same situation, people holding the HT cave entrance where people can report you, for 17 hours, vs solitary hackers who may or may not get banned in the cave.
Also, since a GM obviously came to check horntails cave, they may well have been looking for hackers there anyway.
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Lozmaster Wrote:Yeah, it's totally the same situation, people holding the HT cave entrance where people can report you, for 17 hours, vs solitary hackers who may or may not get banned in the cave.
Also, since a GM obviously came to check horntails cave, they may well have been looking for hackers there anyway.
If you 1hko Horntail and can quickly log off after looting drops?
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