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New Root Abyss Equip Drop
I don't understand why we're trying to come up with all these restrictions just because of this "change" in the loot system.
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Because >100(?) equips per Empress run is too high? At that sort of drop rate, they may be worth just as much extracted for Philos.
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Haishiro Wrote:Because >100(?) equips per Empress run is too high? At that sort of drop rate, they may be worth just as much extracted for Philos.
Empress equips are beyond saving.
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Jamesie Wrote:Empress equips are beyond saving.

Agreed. At this point I think people are worried about the state of future drops and how this affects profitability
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Haishiro Wrote:Because >100(?) equips per Empress run is too high? At that sort of drop rate, they may be worth just as much extracted for Philos.

The absurd drop ratio is an error within the changed drop system. It's nothing that can't be fixed.
KMS, or any other version that has his drop system, doesn't get a ridiculous amount of equipment drops per boss as far as I know.
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Dark Link Wrote:The absurd drop ratio is an error within the changed drop system. It's nothing that can't be fixed.
KMS, or any other version that has his drop system, doesn't get a ridiculous amount of equipment drops per boss as far as I know.

Yeah, that would just be ridiculous.

[Image: 1THPq5O.png]

Not quite the same, but I'm not even sure if this is all the drops they got.
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Grey Wrote:Yeah, that would just be ridiculous.

[Image: 1THPq5O.png]

Not quite the same, but I'm not even sure if this is all the drops they got.


Eh why does every second weapon look pink scrolled? Is that a side effect of additional options?
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PoetryIsFail Wrote:Eh why does every second weapon look pink scrolled? Is that a side effect of additional options?

I guess you could all it a side effect. The item's aura color is just an indicator of how much above average it is, it doesn't really have to do with scrolling, but it is most prominently associated with scrolling.
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just a few more hours and we will see how nexon handles RA/Empress
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Grey Wrote:Yeah, that would just be ridiculous.

[Image: 1THPq5O.png]

Not quite the same, but I'm not even sure if this is all the drops they got.

it'll take a few runs in MSEA to get those amount of weapons. (weapons only because we usually just down queen without downing the instructors because why not.)
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>complaining about "absurd amounts of drops" when everyone here damn well knows that the people who killed on every single one of those runs were on a massive drop rate modifier
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Speaking of Empress, I haven't seen of the lucky scrolls for Zeros
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MuscleWizard Wrote:>complaining about "absurd amounts of drops" when everyone here damn well knows that the people who killed on every single one of those runs were on a massive drop rate modifier

It's made worse by the fact that, under this system, each person's drops is based on their own drop multiplier, if I recall correctly. I believe in the screenshot I posted that Limgoon was had 278% drop or something like that, while the other two were on 2x.
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MuscleWizard Wrote:>complaining about "absurd amounts of drops" when everyone here damn well knows that the people who killed on every single one of those runs were on a massive drop rate modifier
if one person solo's CRA/Empress, and party's 5 loot mules, that is a free x6 loot chance. loot multiplers are related to, but separate from, the Party-Loot system.
700gobuA Wrote:Speaking of Empress, I haven't seen of the lucky scrolls for Zeros
there are/were a few in ymck priced at 1b before RA/Empress Party-Loot, and 200m after the change. are they gach only?
Grey Wrote:It's made worse by the fact that, under this system, each person's drops is based on their own drop multiplier, if I recall correctly. I believe in the screenshot I posted that Limgoon was had 278% drop or something like that, while the other two were on 2x.
"+278%" from equips i believe you're saying? i never saw the potentials, but thats close to a personal total of 4x drop rate before any drop coupons or drop buffs. Nexon attempt to address insane loot multiplers with "treasure boxes" that are unaffected by multipliers. in response to all the people who say having insane multiplier is unfair. which is kind of a laugh in the face for people who cubed accessories for +%Loot. [question] When nexon hosts a 2x event, are "treasure boxes" even affected?

i am at odds with this. maybe nexon should impliment a global cap to loot multiplers. it's commonplace to get
[indent] 2x event + 2x "egg drop" + 2x NX card + in-game bonus skills (HS, Demon Cry, Taunt),[/indent]
[indent]not even including any legendary +%Loot potentials.[/indent]
Maybe utilize the Ignore Def formula to give drop multipliers an asymptotic limit of... idk x5 (so as not to cap 2x event + 2x NX)
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or maybe x10 cap, give the indented example above

Nexon needs to take a look at their entire loot system. Why should I have to hunt 10 minutes for one Knight's Scroll to fight Von Leon, or twice as long to get 10 Dragon Scales for Horntail prequest? Certain quest drops should be 100% drop per monster kill. I remember job advance meant killing manon & griffey, and after hours of luck searching, sometimes they wouldnt even drop the thingie! (it's 100% drop now, in a personal instanced dungeon, ty nexon.) Speaking of Von Leon... why aren't crocky helmets, Reindeer Spears, or Bearwolf Maces 100% "monster item" drops? TBT killing 500 vultures to loot 300 spears when they only spawn 7 to a map...

le sigh
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700gobuA Wrote:Speaking of Empress, I haven't seen of the lucky scrolls for Zeros

I have seen a handfull for bellonova. I don't think most people go for the Lionheart set though, i whent straight for SW. Seen about 4 SW scrolls, never seen a Fafnir one though.
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Niernen Wrote:I have seen a handfull for bellonova. I don't think most people go for the Lionheart set though, i whent straight for SW. Seen about 4 SW scrolls, never seen a Fafnir one though.
Don't think we'll be seeing Fafnir ones for a while. Rolleyes
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TugboatWilly Wrote:Don't think we'll be seeing Fafnir ones for a while. Rolleyes

And thenmagiclaly next week.

HEY GUY ITS MARVEL TIME!
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TugboatWilly Wrote:Don't think we'll be seeing Fafnir ones for a while. Rolleyes

not if [MENTION=12485]qtpie[/MENTION]; can help it Glitter
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would fanir 4set + SW 3 set be better than fafnir 3set+ SW 4set effects? At least SW bosses are beatable by enough players that there will be SW Zero scrolls, but I don't see Fafnir being as common. Then again, with the new drop mechanics who knows?
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Marksman Bryan Wrote:not if qtpie; can help it Glitter

Rejoice scanians! Scania cv will soon be meeting with 180% drop rate gear, wolf, 20% drop rate inner ability, AND a drop rate card! Shine

edit: each item will be sold separately. Batteries not included
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