[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - January 1, 2014
Most legit people get hellbanned while people with like 200 boss nebs aren't. (Someone in broa has 200 boss nebs w/o being hell banned) Tongue
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And the Yut coin exploit is still going strong.

What are you doing, Nexon?
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Hmmm, so if you are still on the rankings, that means you aren't hellbanned/permabanned? Because I couldn't find my friend on the regular rankings, nor could I find Mazz's
not sure if this is true or not
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Green4Ever Wrote:I'm guessing I got my hellban for the 9 No Booms that I've had sitting in my storage. I swear if they touch those I am going to kill someone.
I bought them all like 2 weeks ago so they have no reason to touch them.

Just because you got them two weeks ago dosnt mean they could still be duped seems like the dupes been around a while.
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Hellbanned as well, big surprise there.

If Nexon doesn't somehow pull some magic out of their asses to handle this situation better...
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^ Making their own lives harder.

It seems like they gave "hackers" and "legit" exploiters a free do-whatever-the-hell-you-want card until the next maintenance (whenever the heck that is). Personally, I'm not touching the game until then. I'll be missing out on events or whatever but eh.

More Civ4 for me.
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Did this server check actually fix anything?
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xxkionayxx Wrote:I raise you 1M for 7hrs
Dang, you almost called it correctly lol.

Luckily I didn't get hellbanned, but can't really do much when half the server is...
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Jedward Wrote:or they're legit and it just looks suspicious.

i don't have any high-ticket items besides a clean beryl heart (???) and my perfected emp staff (which i was looking for a C/O for on sunday). it doesn't mean those items were duped (the staff was from months ago and i scrolled it myself, and the beryl heart is from that hot time). it just looks suspicious.

everyone who's freaking out about no-rollback and dupers being free needs to remember that this pomegranate isn't over yet. nexon has some serious damage control to do and it would be a real dumbass move, even by nexon standards, to not do anything else. they know this. they know you know it and are pissed at them. cut them the tiniest of slacks, stay off the game, find other things to do, we'll see what happens when the rumored next dupe comes out and when nexon makes their next move.

a better maple was a good start. let them do better.

It's kind of hard to give them slack because with every hour going off, it's a lot more wrk for them which will ultimately mean more trouble for everyone who plays the game legitly.

This is why people are pissed or freaked out. The longer it is, the harder it is for them to rollback. That is fact. So with every hour that goes back, a good fix becomes harder to apply.

Honestly at this point, they are fucked. I'm starting to doubt that even a rollback can fix this anymore.
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ThatWasMyKil Wrote:Just because you got them two weeks ago dosnt mean they could still be duped seems like the dupes been around a while.

I know for a fact they're legit.
GAZED doesn't get hit very hard when these things go public so I doubt very many people had it when it was private.
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Tigeon Wrote:It's kind of hard to give them slack because with every hour going off, it's a lot more wrk for them which will ultimately mean more trouble for everyone who plays the game legitly.

This is why people are pissed or freaked out. The longer it is, the harder it is for them to rollback. That is fact. So with every hour that goes back, a good fix becomes harder to apply.

Honestly at this point, they are pineappleed. I'm starting to doubt that even a rollback can fix this anymore.

you're speaking as if a rollback is seriously the only fix.

a rollback won't fix everything either. they have to do so much more and planning that, much less executing it, is a ridiculous amount of work. i suspect that's what they're working on now.

they're keeping the game up because they're still a business. some people are going to be so unaffected by this either because they're casual enough to not be touching the fm, or because they actively avoid it anyway. those people could still be spending money and having the game down means they can't spend money. that's pretty much why the game can't be down for longer than a day (and a half?). but they can still be working on fixes.

i'm gonna shut up now. i do hope things get better for the game, i'm having fun with it again and this disaster is a serious test of how nexon is willing to stick to their commitment to make the game better. i'll wait and see, as i always do.
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Someone posted this on the forums, pretty spot on about our situation.

[video=youtube;bdgiCm1KEu0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdgiCm1KEu0[/video]
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Jedward Wrote:you're speaking as if a rollback is seriously the only fix.

a rollback won't fix everything either. they have to do so much more and planning that, much less executing it, is a ridiculous amount of work. i suspect that's what they're working on now.

they're keeping the game up because they're still a business. some people are going to be so unaffected by this either because they're casual enough to not be touching the fm, or because they actively avoid it anyway. those people could still be spending money and having the game down means they can't spend money. that's pretty much why the game can't be down for longer than a day (and a half?). but they can still be working on fixes.

i'm gonna shut up now. i do hope things get better for the game, i'm having fun with it again and this disaster is a serious test of how nexon is willing to stick to their commitment to make the game better. i'll wait and see, as i always do.

A rollback won't fix everything, no, but it is the only fix in this kind of situation. Item, meso, and Yut coin duplication went on for 28 hours (and that's just when it was public) before the game was shut down, and all they did was ban some accounts and hellban completely random accounts, with many accounts directly involved in the duping completely untouched. A rollback would mean that instead of this chaos, at the very least, the majority of the duped stuff would be gone. Instead, this pomegranate will continue the flood the market.
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Possible explanations
1) Nexon is dumb
2) Nexon is doing stuff and a rollback is still coming

#1 seems more likely
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Rollbacks
Exploits
Duping

That one will never get old. :v
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FoolsLove Wrote:A rollback won't fix everything, no, but it is the only fix in this kind of situation. Item, meso, and Yut coin duplication went on for 28 hours (and that's just when it was public) before the game was shut down, and all they did was ban some accounts and hellban completely random accounts, with many accounts directly involved in the duping completely untouched. A rollback would mean that instead of this chaos, at the very least, the majority of the duped stuff would be gone. Instead, this pomegranate will continue the flood the market.

i wasn't ruling out a rollback. i think it's still going to happen. what i'm saying is that in addition to a rollback, they have more things to do. and they have to sort that out first before they do anything, because if/when they do a rollback and it doesn't solve the problem to an extent they're satisfied with, it's only a matter of time before the shitstorm happens again. they have to apply a series of fixes (of which a rollback is a part of), and do it pretty much all at once. not with weeks in between. all at once. they have to get ready for that.
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Something will happen. That's guaranteed.
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Let's see
Logged on to do dojo yesterday - hellbanned
shop account not hellbanned
friends accounts that sold a lot of stuff yesterday - not hellbanned
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Jedward Wrote:i wasn't ruling out a rollback. i think it's still going to happen. what i'm saying is that in addition to a rollback, they have more things to do. and they have to sort that out first before they do anything, because if/when they do a rollback and it doesn't solve the problem to an extent they're satisfied with, it's only a matter of time before the shitstorm happens again. they have to apply a series of fixes (of which a rollback is a part of), and do it pretty much all at once. not with weeks in between. all at once. they have to get ready for that.

As much as a rollback is necessary, doing so at this point is only going to create even more backlash at Nexon. If they were going to rollback, they should have done it while the game was down. The longer the game stays online and nothing is done, the harder it will be for any of this to be even remotely fixable.
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