Ice Splitter Uses Over Octopus

gobys training - ice
newties - oct
i got 11 oct and now im getting ice to 25 (6 monster)

Notice how I never said Kents and DTs were the ONLY training spots. I trained @ Squids for some of lvl 8x and Ice Splitter was very useful there, especially at the bottom where the mobs were large. Vikings also has very large mobs. They're also rather wide so you're more likely to gun whack there.

As for the mini dungeons, you never know when. It could be next patch, it could be next year. It's better not to base your build around Nexon's schedule given how much they suck.

Also whenever the Mini-dungeon event rears its head (for good or evil depending on your view) Mini-dudgeon Newties will be unavailable.

Then train somewhere else or get a map. Not like it's permanently gone.

Then train somewhere else or get a map. Not like it's permanently gone.

If your build is- I KILLZ DEMZ N3WT5 and your mini-dungeons are gone- And the maps are full-
Then yes you are unable to train effectively.

I'm doing an 11 Ice -> Max Octo -> 26 Ice build. I really have not found Ice to be incredibly useful for early 3rd job training, especially not at Windraiders and Squids. Blank Shot does basically the same thing until Ice is at a higher level, and Glaze capsules are a bit expensive at the moment, so my Ice is doing like 400 damage at level 78. Black Squids aren't even really worth stunning, anyway, I just shoot at them and tank the 1 damage shots. The only thing I really want Ice for is the occasional Goby house. Not having a mob skill sucks when fighting Gobies.

Octopus adds very little damage until you have it at a higher level. With my build, you get 11 Octopus at level 85, which is about when Newties become a decent training spot.

gobys training - ice
newties - oct
i got 11 oct and now im getting ice to 25 (6 monster)

What sane Outlaw trains at Gobies? Our mob skills do crappy damage, with the exception of Flamethrower, and Gobies are res to fire.

If your build is- I KILLZ DEMZ N3WT5 and your mini-dungeons are gone- And the maps are full-
Then yes you are unable to train effectively.

Blank shot + burst fire at squids

Blank shot + burst fire at squids

Octopus isn't entirely useless at squids, either. 11+ actually speeds things up quite a bit at the bottom and the 2nd/3rd row of platforms.

himes training - ice
newties - oct
i got 11 oct and now im getting ice to 25 (6 monster)

Fixed.

Blank shot + burst fire at squids

I tried that. Ice is much better when you have larger mobs. Plus the monsters don't unfreeze when you gun-whack them.

^Yea ice is better but it was in reference to the point of "You cannot train effectively anywhere else if you get octo directly after burst fire"