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Student's horror as he finds 'wrinkled' organ inside his chicken
#41
案山子 Wrote:Throes, just stop. You seem to be incapable of putting yourself in the guy's shoes since apparently you keep going on about how it would be the greatest gift in the world to find a random, uncooked organ in your cereal without being able to see that there isn't a damn way this guy could have known what the FUCK he was biting into - and in a place that doesn't even serve pieces of animal like this. Period.

It's a big deal because it shows how unchecked a lot of our food is and just about anything can slip into that cheeseburger you're chowing down on. Replace the organ with drugs; a dead rodent; a finger. It's the problem of ''sometimes random pomegranate is put into that Happy Meal you just got, kid''. True, it turned out to be a part of a chicken, but if it wasn't? Again, how could you have known immediately what this organ is or where it came from?

Have a Pineapple. If you're not used to the food, the food looks wrinkly, you don't even know if it came from somewhere else or was cleaned and this thing is residing in your food when you never paid for it, that is something that can nauseate a person and lead them to sue when they're still disgusted because they didn't pay for it. We know now that this is a kidney and it's harmless in hindsight but this guy didn't so it's unreasonable to expect him to know all of this.
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#42
案山子 Wrote:Throes, just stop. You seem to be incapable of putting yourself in the guy's shoes since apparently you keep going on about how it would be the greatest gift in the world to find a random, uncooked organ in your cereal without being able to see that there isn't a damn way this guy could have known what the FUCK he was biting into - and in a place that doesn't even serve pieces of animal like this. Period.

It's a big deal because it shows how unchecked a lot of our food is and just about anything can slip into that cheeseburger you're chowing down on. Replace the organ with drugs; a dead rodent; a finger. It's the problem of ''sometimes random pomegranate is put into that Happy Meal you just got, kid''. True, it turned out to be a part of a chicken, but if it wasn't? Again, how could you have known immediately what this organ is or where it came from?

And then we need to take a step back from this and consider how this malfunction could have happened. What likely happened? Something was off in the cutting-up-into-bits process and an organ showed up where it shouldn't have. Somebody didn't sneak up and drop a dirty needle into it. This was something that fits cleanly into a margin of error. It's something that's not easy to prevent 100% of the time. It's not something that can be prevented by following standard health codes and decent security measures in a factory. This kind of thing is going to happen. The only way to stop this would be to dig through every piece of chicken to make sure that there's no organs inside. Anomalies happen, and trying to prevent them costs far, far more than it's worth.

Yeah, it sucks that this kid got the bad piece in the entire bunch. It's something that happens. I've been there. We've found a piece of chicken with what we eventually concluded was probably a tumor. Were we grossed out? Hell yeah, it was nasty. A little hard bunch of something in a piece of chicken breast. Gross. I still eat chicken because I understand that what we found was a rare thing, and I still enjoy it. I mean, if this kid's grossed out enough that he doesn't want KFC anymore that's fine, it's his choice, but him being the lucky winner of the Organ Wing doesn't mean there's a fundamental flaw within the food production industry.

Not to say that there's no problems within food production, I can't say if there is because I don't know enough about it, but I do know that this is probably more like finding the green potato chip than it is finding a needle in your burger.
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#43
Kabanaw Wrote:Not to say that there's no problems within food production, I can't say if there is because I don't know enough about it, but I do know that this is probably more like finding the green potato chip than it is finding a needle in your burger.

BUT AGAIN:

案山子 Wrote:It's a big deal because it shows how unchecked a lot of our food is and just about anything can slip into that cheeseburger you're chowing down on. Replace the organ with drugs; a dead rodent; a finger. It's the problem of ''sometimes random pomegranate is put into that Happy Meal you just got, kid''. True, it turned out to be a part of a chicken, but if it wasn't? Again, how could you have known immediately what this organ is or where it came from?

THIS is the point we're trying to make. The crux of this issue is not the literal specifics of the surprise inside the chicken, but the fact there was something that wasn't supposed to be there to begin with. The whole issue here is compounded by the fact that many of you have no problem with it - and it's your complacency and indifference to these kinds of mistakes that allow them to continue, at times being actually serious, like finding enterohemorrhagic E. coli in your hamburger. When something is wrong, you need to say something about it, not be paid off with vouchers so the company can continue whatever disastrously unhealthy production practices it follows.

It's just like calling out people for being racist if they're blatantly offensive and/or using derogatory slurs, right before turning around and telling a "really funny joke" about feeling uneasy seeing a veterinary clinic next to a Chinese restaurant. Though you may have stopped a clear example of racism, in the seemingly "harmless" joke you upheld a racial stereotype, further perpetuating a social culture of symbolic racism that, to some, subconsciously validates their bigoted beliefs, enabling them to act out their racial phobias by being blatantly offensive and/or using derogatory slurs. Or worse.

Point is, you're keeping the cycle alive by not taking offense to and speaking out against the principle of the issue here.
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#44
FrozNlite Wrote:BUT AGAIN:



THIS is the point we're trying to make. The crux of this issue is not the literal specifics of the surprise inside the chicken, but the fact there was something that wasn't supposed to be there to begin with. The whole issue here is compounded by the fact that many of you have no problem with it - and it's your complacency and indifference to these kinds of mistakes that allow them to continue, at times being actually serious, like finding enterohemorrhagic E. coli in your hamburger. When something is wrong, you need to say something about it, not be paid off with vouchers so the company can continue whatever disastrously unhealthy production practices it follows.

It's just like calling out people for being racist if they're blatantly offensive and/or using derogatory slurs, right before turning around and telling a "really funny joke" about feeling uneasy seeing a veterinary clinic next to a Chinese restaurant. Though you may have stopped a clear example of racism, in the seemingly "harmless" joke you upheld a racial stereotype, further perpetuating a social culture of symbolic racism that, to some, subconsciously validates their bigoted beliefs, enabling them to act out their racial phobias by being blatantly offensive and/or using derogatory slurs. Or worse.

Point is, you're keeping the cycle alive by not taking offense to and speaking out against the principle of the issue here.

I'm not taking offense because I don't think there' an actual problem. There is no 100%. Mistakes do happen. They can't be entirely prevented. If this happened constantly? Yeah, if people kept finding kidneys in their chicken wings I would think something is wrong and they need to fix whatever problem is causing this. But this is a single event in a sea of happy sales. A fallen kidney stone at the high end of a bell curve.
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#45
Throes Wrote:I would be more concerned if there were some sort of health risk associated with eating chicken kidneys, but there isn't. It's just another piece of the bird, perfectly fine to eat. I don't know what you're trying to imply with the comment about what I do and do not find "gourmet," but whatever, that's just fine.

You know exactly what I'm implying with the comment. It doesn't matter if it is or isn't. The point is that there is no way he could have known. The answer they gave was essentially "Don't worry you won't die", much like the women who found a moldy tampon. NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.

Throes Wrote:It really isn't as big a deal as people are making it out to be. Meat comes from animals. Animals have organs. In a chain that puts out as much product as KFC does, there are bound to be instances where the chicken carcass does not have its kidneys removed before being cooked. It's not that big a deal. Animals have organs! Yes, even the animals you eat! And guess what? The kidneys are located really close to those meaty delicious thighs you eat all the time! It's not a big surprise that it ended up in his food.

What does raw chicken typically have? Okay, now what happens when you take a piece of meat that your flash fryer isn't designed to flash fry? Something that maybe not adequately cooked. To me that kidney didn't look cooked, that's a lot of red flags.

Throes Wrote:It wasn't what he ordered, he got grossed out looking at it and asked for money back, and that's fine. They offered to give him food vouchers and tried to make things right since he felt so sick to his stomach. That's fine. Acting like it's some horrible, god-awful offense and KFC should be fined/boycotted/sued? Overreacting.

If there were some sort of "mad chicken kidney disease" going around I'd say yeah, absolutely, cause a riot, get mad, be concerned, boycott KFC, whatever. But there isn't. It's just a kidney. No big whoop. This should not be news.

I haven't found any follow ups, any lawsuits, anything besides the same two f`ucking paragraphs. He found a chiciken organ, it's a gaffe, they offered him free coupons, and I'm not surprised he won't be returning there. This is also in the UK which recently was found to be serving horse meat, which is in fact dangerous. So it's not surprising that;

A) The media is is reporting this considering Burger King recently got slammed
B) That he'c concerned considering the context

So yes, I think it's appropriate in either direction you go with it that it has been reported and is up for discussion.
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#46
Curtiss Wrote:I agree with FrozNlite for the most part. Even if we're all aware that fast food isn't made of premium-quality ingredients they still have standards and I don't see anything wrong with this guy getting repulsed, particularly when it is plainly a kind of food he's not used to though I suppose his reaction a bit extreme.

As for what I would do, I would eat somewhere else for a long time. I've done that before after getting mild food poisoning with certain kinds of food and I'm not going to die if I avoid said food, anyway.

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#47
KhainiWest Wrote:I haven't found any follow ups, any lawsuits, anything besides the same two f`ucking paragraphs. He found a chiciken organ, it's a gaffe, they offered him free coupons, and I'm not surprised he won't be returning there. This is also in the UK which recently was found to be serving horse meat, which is in fact dangerous.

Wait what? Was the horse meat they were serving rotten? Because you can eat a horse. It's just... why would you? Those things are all hard muscle, and they don't taste good. In fact, the current theory is that the native american horse was hunted to extinction on the continent by the first human beings that arrived on the continent, because the first thing they thought was "Hey look! Food!" and not "Hey look! An effective mode of transportation!"

Edit: Oh okay, it had a drug in it. But that is still something different entirely! A sleazy company selling drugged horse meat is waaaaaay different from a one in a million slip up that is nigh impossible to detect and even less to prevent.
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#48
Kabanaw Wrote:Wait what? Was the horse meat they were serving rotten? Because you can eat a horse. It's just... why would you? Those things are all hard muscle, and they don't taste good. In fact, the current theory is that the native american horse was hunted to extinction on the continent by the first human beings that arrived on the continent, because the first thing they thought was "Hey look! Food!" and not "Hey look! An effective mode of transportation!"

The meat's tainted with chemicals as far as I've heard.
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#49
Curtiss Wrote:The meat's tainted with chemicals as far as I've heard.

Yeah, pretty much aspirin for horses. That's dangerous for humans.
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#50
Kabanaw Wrote:Yeah, pretty much aspirin for horses. That's dangerous for humans.

And that's why this KFC one became a big issue too, I reckon. While they are separate issues most people would be freaked out if they heard about this horsemeat scandal and then found an uninvited guest in their meal later even if it's later discovered to be safe.
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Kabanaw Wrote:Edit: Oh okay, it had a drug in it. But that is still something different entirely! A sleazy company selling drugged horse meat is waaaaaay different from a one in a million slip up that is nigh impossible to detect and even less to prevent.

The bigger picture is it's a fast food f`uck up. Hence why it was reported, and mind you, it hasn't really been stressed on either. The correlation is there, much like how gun articles have been appearing 50x more frequently.
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#52
^^^ This doesn't just happen in fast food. It happens in all mass food production. It's an unfortunate reality.

Curtiss Wrote:And that's why this KFC one became a big issue too, I reckon. While they are separate issues most people would be freaked out if they heard about this horsemeat scandal and then found an uninvited guest in their meal later even if it's later discovered to be safe.

It's no problem that someone is terrified when they see something they don't recognize in their food and freak out. The problem is when people take this isolated event and elevate it to the point that it's equivalent to a company knowingly putting drugged horsemeat in their food. Making a mountain of horse meat out of a molehill of chicken kidney.
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#53
Kabanaw Wrote:^^^ This doesn't just happen in fast food. It happens in all mass food production. It's an unfortunate reality.



It's no problem that someone is terrified when they see something they don't recognize in their food and freak out. The problem is when people take this isolated event and elevate it to the point that it's equivalent to a company knowingly putting drugged horsemeat in their food. Making a mountain of horse meat out of a molehill of chicken kidney.

Indeed, it's one thing if they demand a refund and quite another if they decide to sue. Sadly, horsemeat scandal or not, the latter may still happen.
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#54
This article reminds me of The Jungle, in which a guy walks into a dark room and finds a pile of meat moving only to realize Mice are living in said pile of meat.
And they still put it into the grinder, if I remember correctly.
I haven't read that book in a year or two.

I dunno, I can understand where people are coming from when they say it's another piece of chicken? But even so, like the other side has said, the person didn't pay for that and was not expecting it to pop up in the first place...

I'd be disgusted too, and I probably wouldn't come back.
Then again, I can live without fast food anyway, so it's not so much of an issue to me.

It's more of an issue to my friends and family who eat at the place.
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#55
Corn Wrote:I should stop going on Reddit.

You said that last year too.
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#56
Ugh gross. KFC is one of the nastiest fast food chains imo. I've heard other stories about them that are just disgusting. I guess mostly all fast food chains have nasty things that happen at times though.
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#58
ive had an uncooked roasta burger from KFC before, it was all bloody and raw inside. i still love KFC though, some errors are just unavoidable.
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Syphira Wrote:This article reminds me of The Jungle, in which a guy walks into a dark room and finds a pile of meat moving only to realize Mice are living in said pile of meat.
And they still put it into the grinder, if I remember correctly.
I haven't read that book in a year or two.

I dunno, I can understand where people are coming from when they say it's another piece of chicken? But even so, like the other side has said, the person didn't pay for that and was not expecting it to pop up in the first place...

I'd be disgusted too, and I probably wouldn't come back.
Then again, I can live without fast food anyway, so it's not so much of an issue to me.

It's more of an issue to my friends and family who eat at the place.

The thing is the Jungle is pretty much what fueled the creation of an actual health code. Entirely by accident as well! The book was intended to show the poor treatment of workers to advertise socialism. Turns out people are much less interested in worker rights when they find out their food is rotten meat mixed with rats.
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Kabanaw Wrote:The thing is the Jungle is pretty much what fueled the creation of an actual health code. Entirely by accident as well! The book was intended to show the poor treatment of workers to advertise socialism. Turns out people are much less interested in worker rights when they find out their food is rotten meat mixed with rats.

Yeah, that's what I thought! I found it funny (in an odd way, of course) when I was learning more about it in my classes.
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