DotA2 - Original Thread

Tobi knows his dota, he has no deep insight though, but he's been with the game for years and knows the basics and some of broader ideas, he's not clueless.
But he's not a genius either and he's quite bad at actually playing it, he doesn't know all the small mechanics and such but has a good idea of how teams are doing comparatively.

The best casting duo IMO, is a guy named Draskyll who can do play by play while having a deep understanding of the game, he plays high tier dota, without being professional and him plus a slightly charismatic professional player gives good insight into the game and a lot of usefull information.
Like here: http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhackdota/b/342299024
Skip to 4 hours and 50 minutes exactly and you'll have one of the, IMO, better casts in quite some time.

When do you guys have time to play? I wouldn't mind setting it up :o

I wont personally have a lot of fluid time untill after wednesday, sadly
Uni and shizzle.
Might be able to catch a few games between 7 and 11 CET

I'm on US Eastern time (UTC-5) and I usually play a game or two between 8-11pm if I'm not doing something that night. Taking off from work early tomorrow, too. Any time on weekends as long as it's set up in advance.

I'm in US Central time. Look for me in the SP steam group if you guys are playing. I have a fairly busy week too, but I would probably take a break with a game.

Weekend seem a nice time for all, you seem to have busy weekdays. What about Saturday?
Problem is figuring out what time... I'll ask in steam group to see if we can get more people to join us and decide what time soon.

Neato, also when ingame you can join the chatroom "Southperry" it's my default chat-room.

And yea, saturday would definitely work for me since i'll have time 24/7 this weekend.

Same here, I'm good for this weekend.

I probably won't be on until Friday at all (DOTA2, at least, I'm always online on Steam) because I have finals this week.

I'll be around Saturday, just give me a time beforehand so I don't go somewhere. Afternoon 1-5ish is best (1900-2300 UTC). Night is probably fine too.

Update Notes - December 12, 2012

Added Timbersaw!

GAMEPLAY
- Ancient Apparition: Fixed status effect ignoring magic immune units (HP Freeze and Shatter).
- Silencer: Fixed Last Word not being triggered by Invoke.
- Slark: Fixed Pounce leashing illusions.
- Undying: Fixed Decay providing too much healing to Undying.
- Fixed Shadow Blade interaction with Cleave and Critical Strike.
- Fixed Cycloning yourself causing you to take damage from Orchid.

Incoming Medusa rework? She's been ready for release for like 2 weeks now, what else could be the hold up?

Shredder added? Interesting, and i hope medusa wont be changed too much.
Favourite hero by far.

Also shadow blade fixed ((((


Edit: Bastion announcer is in the files, yaaay.
[video=youtube;6RTkUgov60g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RTkUgov60g[/video]
pineapple i can't wait, just take my money already valve.
This is like the best news announcer-wise in forever. Good bye juggernaut announcer.

This is like the best news announcer-wise in forever. Good bye juggernaut announcer.

So true, but he better give commentary on everything you do or it won't be the same.

Also, i have gotten a ton of invites from friends with no use for them, if anybody on SP happens to see this and wants to give it a spin or anything, feel free to ask. There are invites a plenty.

Also:


I can't wait to see how it progresses once Perfect World starts distributing it in china, if they will count as playing on steam that is.

Oh and this video series contains a ton of useful information:
[video=youtube;af3avh9unxs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af3avh9unxs&list=PLF50cvv4MhVp_ErjuMdZ1koG2MZxIm_Vf[/video]

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Ok, let's play together tomorrow! I'll be on from 1pm pst (4est, 7malthe's time) waiting for you guys .
Bring friends or whoever you'd like, the more the merrier ^^
Also, Broodmother is OP... didn't die once, which never happens, got 21 kills and 3 assists!
That ultimate's so strong and it feels like it has no cooldown, Broodmother is my new favorite

Oh, oh, oh and I feel like I'm getting so much better at last hitting! I still don't get all I could but I'm getting more than I used to!

I'll be ready tomorrow, definitely. I assume we play on US east, as far as servers go?

Also, even the best players tend to miss last-hits, especially if you're being contended.

Also a nice infographic from dotabuff:

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lmfao @ 0.5% @ China.

Edit: It would appear nobody knows how to play Timbersaw at all: https://dotabuff.com/heroes/timbersaw (He's a good hero, look at the win-rate. I was expecting it to be between 45 and 50%.)

I tried playing him yesterday vs bots and it took me a few hours to figure out what the hell I was doing. The tree hookshot and his ult are pretty difficult to use.

Also, he was in that first batch of heroes that came out in DotA after the Dota 2 beta was already under way, so hardly anyone has played him before. I certainly haven't.

Well, here's a run down of how to play him:
Skill build for solo mid(Which is where i'm going to play him myself):

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• Level 1 Whirling death/Reactive armor
  
• Level 2 Timber chain/Whirling death(If you didn't get it at level 1 and you don't need to escape anytime soon)
  
• Level 3 A point in whatever you don't have yet, you should be 1-1-1 now.
  
• Level 4 If you're in a lane against a ranged enemy, you can get a second point in reactive armor now if you are under harassment, if not timber chain.
  
• Level 5 Timber chain
  
• Level 6 Chakram
  
• Level 7 Timber chain(Should be max if you didn't get a second point in reactive armor)
  
• Level 8 Now add a second point into reactive armor if you didn't do that at level 4, if you did max timber chain.
  
• Level 9 Start maxing whirling death
  
• Max reactive armor last and get stats afterwards, get ulti when you can
  

As far as items goes, he's incredibly mana dependant, core should be:
Mana boots, bloodstone(If you aren't struggling a lot as a team), Euls(To replace bloodstone if you ARE struggling as a team). This is his core as far as mana regen goes, even after getting bloodstone you should still have mana boots, unless you're getting boots of travel, he simply doesn't really benefit from any other boots.

Starting items:
Stout shield is core, IMO.
Some cheap stats like branches are always nice and regen is obviously needed. Quelling blade can be gotten if you're going to be having problems last hitting against high base stats heroes.

Situational items/Lategame items:
Drum of endurance, Scythe of vyse, Shiva's guard, Heart of terrasque, Orchid of malevolence(If you need to lock down a hero with a low-cooldown escape mechanism like storm, anti-mage or Queen of pain that can escape your timber chain), forcestaff, Hood of defiance, Pipe of insight, Mekansm.

How i would play him: Roam a lot after you got max timber chain, you can even be aggressive in lane if your opponent can be hit by a timber chain and then comboed with chakram and whirling death. And feel free to trade blows if you have 1 point in reactive armor against melee opponents or 2 against ranged.
After that, go crazy and gank like a mad man plus be there in all fights.

But yea i'm not surprised his win-rate is so low, or well, i am a bit, but he's a hero that requires a lot of effort and he isn't very cookie cutter.

Double posting because this is worth it:

First of all:

Winter event incoming: http://www.dota2.com/frostivus/
Hoping it'll be as good as the halloween event.


Second of all.... 6.77:

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Heroes

Ancient Apparition
- Chilling Touch manacost rescaled from 140 to 110/120/130/140

Batrider
- Batrider can no longer attack while using Flaming Lasso

Bounty Hunter
- Track no longer reduces armor

Centaur
- Movement speed decreased from 305 to 300
- Double Edge no longer interrupts channeling
- Stampede now applies a 100% slow instead of a stun (as always, units cannot be slowed below 100 movement speed)

Clockwerk
- Agility growth increased from 1.2 to 2.3

Dazzle
- Shallow Grave cast range rescaled from 400/600/800/1000 to 550/700/850/1000

Doom Bringer
- Scorched Earth now also affects other units you control
- Doom now has too much armor! (+1)

Drow Ranger
- Trueshot Aura now only affects non-hero units within 900 range of Drow

Earthshaker
- Aftershock stun duration rescaled from 0.3/0.7/1.2/1.5 to 0.6/0.9/1.2/1.5
- Aftershock damage increased from 25/45/75/115 to 50/75/100/125
- Enchant Totem cooldown decreased from 6 to 5

Enchantress
- Untouchable AS reduction increased from 20/40/60/80 to 20/50/80/110

Jakiro
- Ice Path damage from 100 to 25/50/75/100

Lycanthrope
- Base Int increased from 15 to 17
- Spirit Wolves armor increased by 1

Magnus
- Skewer no longer affects magic immune units
- Skewer cast range rescaled from 1200 to 600/800/1000/1200
- Reverse Polarity duration decreased from 2.5/3.25/4 to 2.25/3/3.75

Medusa
- Stone Gaze cooldown decreased from 140/110/80 to 140/100/60

Mirana
- Moonlight Shadow duration increased from 11 to 15 seconds

Morphling
- Cast animation time decreased from 0.4 to 0.25

Necrolyte
- Reaper's Scythe stun/delay increased from 1 to 1.5 seconds

Omniknight
- Purification cast range rescaled from 400/500/600/700 to 700

Phoenix
- Sun Ray max range decreased from 1600 to 1300
- Sun Ray base damage decreased from 16/24/32/40 to 15/20/25/30
- Sun Ray now ends if you are stunned or silenced
- Fixed some Sunray lag issues

Puck
- Illusory Orb cooldown decreased from 13 to 12

Pugna
- Decrepify cooldown decreased from 13/11/9/7 to 12/10/8/6

Shadow Demon
- Shadow Poison cooldown decreased from 3 to 2.75

Slark
- Base agility increased by 6

Spectre
- Haunt no longer ends when you use reality (the targeted illusion is still replaced by you though)

Sven
- Great Cleave damage decreased from 25/40/55/70 to 20/35/50/65
- Warcry duration decreased from 8 to 7 seconds

Templar Assassin
- Refraction manacost increased from 75 to 100

Terrorblade
- Movement speed increased by 5

Treant Protector
- Damage increased by 10
- Leech Seed cooldown decreased from 18/16/14/12 to 16/14/12/10
- Overgrowth cooldown decreased from 80 to 70
- Living Armor damage instances increased from 6 to 7
- Living Armor can be cast through the minimap (only considers heroes and towers/rax in this mode)

Undying
- Decay damage reduced from 40/80/120/160 to 20/60/100/140

Vengeful Spirit
- Wave of Terror damage increased from 18.75/37.5/56.25/75 to 30/50/70/90

Viper
- Base strength increased by 3

Warlock
- Shadow Word cooldown decreased from 20 to 16

Weaver
- Shukuchi damage increased from 90/100/110/120 to 90/110/130/150

Winter Wyvern
- Arctic Burn cooldown decreased from 60/50/40/30 to 50/40/30/20
- Splinter Blast cooldown decreased from 8 to 7
- Fixed Arctic Burn vs Roshan

Zeus
- Strength growth increased from 1.8 to 2.3

Items:

Buriza-do Kyanon (Daedalus)
- Crit multiplier decreased from 2.7 to 2.4
- Recipe cost decreased from 1200 to 1000

Crystalys
- Damage decreased from 35 to 30

Eye of Skadi
- HP bonus increased from 200 to 250
- MP bonus increase from 150 to 250

Shiva's Guard
- Freezing Aura's attack speed reduction increased from 25 to 30

Misc:

- Harpy's Chain Lightning manacost reduced from 90 to 50

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED FOR NEARLY ALL HEROES.

Good games today, let's do it again some time.