2012-11-07, 07:09 PM
Renekton with new cleaver gg.
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The LoL Patches thread
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2012-11-07, 07:39 PM
Mmm.. Soon Renekton gonna kick so much more asss. Can't wait, Rene was probably my 4th purchase when I started the game.
2012-11-07, 07:59 PM
New item doesn't seem to be that good for ranged ad, even Ezreal and Graves. Break even point for the new Black Cleaver and the Last Whisper is around 66.66 armor, above which the Last Whisper will deal more damage...which everyone in the game has above at level 18. Should only be used by AD casters that can deal a lot of hits to many opponents around them, and who has a lot of ad on their team to take advantage of that fact. So...probably Garen, Riven, Pantheon. I might consider it on Corki since he already shreds through armor.
I guess I should take in account the new masteries and runes and such giving free armor penetration. I'll top it around 80 ish, which is only good for squishies.
2012-11-07, 08:14 PM
Corn Wrote:I'm scared of Riven =(. Raul Wrote:Jesus, it's like they want Riven to be pick or ban status. She can apply all the armor reduction stacks so quickly with QWQ(autoattack)Q then ult for stupid damage. I like how it's 5% armor reduction though instead of a flat shred. Xypherous has said repeatedly that Riven was bad design on his part, I'm pretty sure she's being reworked. Corn Wrote:New item doesn't seem to be that good for ranged ad, even Ezreal and Graves. Break even point for the new Black Cleaver and the Last Whisper is around 66.66 armor, above which the Last Whisper will deal more damage...which everyone in the game has above at level 18. Should only be used by AD casters that can deal a lot of hits to many opponents around them, and who has a lot of ad on their team to take advantage of that fact. So...probably Garen, Riven, Pantheon. I might consider it on Corki since he already shreds through armor. the entire point of BCs is for AD casters which want to kill squishies for the most part, see : Talon, Garen Remember that they're changing all sources of flat pen too, so what we have now is not useful as a measure of how much armour pen you can have.
2012-11-07, 08:31 PM
Five Second Pose Wrote:Xypherous has said repeatedly that Riven was bad design on his part, I'm pretty sure she's being reworked. Well he also just said that Talon and Riven were created to be countered by stacking armor (tabi+chain vest) in lane. I can see Cleaver actually being quite good on Corki with the super shred and stack application from his E. EDIT: and now he's saying the being countered by armor is a bad thing. >_> goddamn xypherous, always giving mixed messages
2012-11-07, 09:37 PM
I actually think Renekton is really strong as it is. His laning phase is really, really strong and he snowballs very hard. His late game isn't as bad as it's rumored to be, but not better than top tier bruisers, but I think he can get an advantage in lane more easily and be more useful in the midgame. this isn't biased at all because renekton isn't my favorite top lane champion or anything
2012-11-08, 01:55 AM
Apparently Zed's passive now scales just like jarvan (6-8-10%). Its still maximum health, magic damage only to targets below 50% health. (A little annoying how the whole kit of Zed is physical while the passive its magic, if its a good thing or not i dunno)
2012-11-08, 02:13 AM
FenixR Wrote:Apparently Zed's passive now scales just like jarvan (6-8-10%). Its still maximum health, magic damage only to targets below 50% health. (A little annoying how the whole kit of Zed is physical while the passive its magic, if its a good thing or not i dunno) It's really a situational thing, you're giving up being able to build penetration for it for being able to do mixed damage.
2012-11-08, 03:18 PM
Eleisa's Miracle is getting reworked in S3 as well. Here's the new tentative stats on it:
Quote:Eleisa's Miracle (1175 Gold) First item to rush on Dominion now?
2012-11-08, 03:34 PM
Wait a second, what's the point of the item disappearing from the inventory if you gain all of its buffs? So you can't sell it?
Could see a Soraka carrying Heal + CV now though.
2012-11-08, 03:48 PM
Corn Wrote:Wait a second, what's the point of the item disappearing from the inventory if you gain all of its buffs? So you can't sell it? So you can get more items.
2012-11-08, 05:15 PM
Judgment Wrote:Eleisa's Miracle is getting reworked in S3 as well. Here's the new tentative stats on it: Nome said he's probably not gonna port it to dominion. Hell, the whole Miracle remake is completely tentative.
2012-11-08, 05:46 PM
Judgment Wrote:Eleisa's Miracle is getting reworked in S3 as well. Here's the new tentative stats on it:Probably not. You'd really want that aid passive the most and the passive disappearing every three levels (until 18) is a bit inconvenient. Maybe get it at 18 and the game is drawing close to an end and you may not have enough time to buy another high-end item, but I don't think a rush.
2012-11-08, 05:47 PM
Jamesie Wrote:Probably not. You'd really want that aid passive the most and the passive disappearing every three levels (until 18) is a bit inconvenient. Maybe get it at 18 and the game is drawing close to an end and you may not have enough time to buy another high-end item, but I don't think a rush. The passive doesn't disappear. Yeah, I had to read it twice too.
2012-11-08, 05:54 PM
The most interesting thing here is not the item itself, it's what they introduced with it.
They're thinking now of items that lower the cooldown (modify) summoner skills and items that vanish, while keeping the effects. I'm eager to see what else they come up with, maybe items that vanish after getting certain amount of kills or assists.
2012-11-08, 05:55 PM
Corn Wrote:The passive doesn't disappear. Yeah, I had to read it twice too.Now I see it. They need to fix that wording. :'( It's only a "core" item if you're a player who runs Revive anyways. Even at my ELO not everyone takes Revive yet (I'd say it's +/-50% in most games spread across teams), so only a core if you're that high up.
2012-11-08, 05:58 PM
Jamesie Wrote:Now I see it. They need to fix that wording. :'( It's only a "core" item if you're a player who runs Revive anyways. Even at my ELO not everyone takes Revive yet (I'd say it's +/-50% in most games spread across teams), so only a core if you're that high up. Core for supports who carry both CV and Heal, hmmmmmmmm?
2012-11-08, 07:44 PM
[COLOR="#0000FF"]3K mana = 750 shield. op op op op
Hmm, Mana build Fizz sounds fun now. Lich bane, AA, FH/zhonya(I love full cdr fizz ^^), Dcap, lucidity/sorcs and a filler. I can see the trollage now... Someone thinks they can take you, use Zhonya, then trollpole and use shield to pineapple them up or run away if you must. EDIT: HAH! AP BLITZCRANK. [/COLOR]
2012-11-08, 08:09 PM
2 min cooldown, thats on ult level cd no? also you lose that 25% mana when you use the active and its CURRENT mana, so the shield gets less op the more spammity you are with skills.
On the new eleisa on dominion, xyph did some math that you can get ONE extra revive if you rush that item before the 7min mark, after that you get none, so its more of a Heal/CV buff item. (Revive was just added because it rhymed with holy stuff, which xyph relates with the miracle part of the name.) |
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