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KhainiWest Wrote:Well the war potentials are simply people who pose an ultimate thread. I find it stupid how ichigo didn't even fight for more than two pages before releasing some fairy god mother sh`it. I mean he even got stabbed in the throat, effortlessly. It's like we reached this god tier (aizen vs ichigo) then all of a sudden they're ant's again. I mean the highest levels of kido were bi`tch slapped, and you'e telling me they can't even lift a finger.
We can't measure how strong Ichigo is right now. No doubt he is stronger than he was before Final Getsuga, but no doubt aswell he is weaker than Final Getsuga Ichigo. Getting Reiatsu from all captains would be a mayor boost given he kept his hollow powers and maybe even his fullbring powers, if not he could be barely stronger than hollow Ichigo. In any case I think it's obvious Ichigo is not at his fullest right now. Kirge proved to be a pain, plus he looks like he had to slam his body on that cage for it to break.
And someone please remind me where it's revealed Kenpachi is a warring potential. i just reread the part in which he pooped in and there is no mention to that-
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byakugan Wrote:And someone please remind me where it's revealed Kenpachi is a warring potential. i just reread the part in which he pooped in and there is no mention to that-
CrazyForDex Wrote:Yea I just reread chapter 505 and your right, Kenpachi is one.
[MENTION=4235]KhainiWest[/MENTION]; I agree that it is wierd how Ichigo was so effortlessly almost killed. That just seems to be how Bleach goes. The enemy is apparently the strongest mother f'ucker in the universe and nobody has any chance to beat him, then Ichigo gets retardedly strong, fights and wins. Then after that every random guy can give Ichigo tons of trouble. Reminds me of the filler arc with the captain-shinigami clones and that scientist guy.
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CrazyForDex Wrote: .
I read that chapter. I thought you guys had found real proof but that's just an assumption. Kenpachi is definitely the strongest based only on raw power, but he is pretty relentless and fights with pure instinct. Yamamoto was way stronger (having Kidou and Bankai) and you know how it went, I think proof that he isn't one is the fact JuhaBach didn't seem to show any interest into getting him to his side, like he's done with Ichigo and Aizen. I wont rule it out, I'm just saying it isn't proved yet.
War potentials are defintely people that pose a threat, like Khaini said, but that doesn't necessarily mean they gotta be uber strong. Someone capable of unveiling the secrets of Bankai stealing and developing a counter to it could be considered one, place where Urahara fits perfectly.
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[MENTION=1152]byakugan[/MENTION];
I was talking about this:
Unless this is just a translation issue, it appears that Juha bach blatantly said that Kenpachi was "one of their special potentials."
I agree it does not have to be someone simply strong in power. I still think Ishida is one and I could also see Urahara being on there.
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In MangaStream's translation, Juhabach only calls Kenpachi the strongest one, I'd assume refering solely to his raw power. I doubt Manga stream would commit a mistake with such an important detail, plus Juhabach showed no real interest into taking Kenpachi.
I personally find it more plausible for Urahara to be one than Kenpachi. Let's wait and see.
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byakugan Wrote:We can't measure how strong Ichigo is right now. No doubt he is stronger than he was before Final Getsuga, but no doubt aswell he is weaker than Final Getsuga Ichigo. Getting Reiatsu from all captains would be a mayor boost given he kept his hollow powers and maybe even his fullbring powers, if not he could be barely stronger than hollow Ichigo. In any case I think it's obvious Ichigo is not at his fullest right now. Kirge proved to be a pain, plus he looks like he had to slam his body on that cage for it to break.
I actually think he's weaker than his strength in the prior arc, even without final getsuga tenshou. Mostly because he doesn't appear to have any of his hollow powers, and barring the fight against Aizen when he using Final Getsuga, he didn't win a fight since very early on in the arrancar arc without them. His fullbring powers seem to have been completely disregarded for more GETSUGA TENSHOU spamming, which is a real shame.
Quote: In MangaStream's translation, Juhabach only calls Kenpachi the strongest one, I'd assume refering solely to his raw power. I doubt Manga stream would commit a mistake with such an important detail, plus Juhabach showed no real interest into taking Kenpachi.
I wouldn't really argue semantics over unofficial translations. MAngastream is just as likely to be the one in the wrong
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Oh Bleach... Why you so predictable...
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street Wrote:It all makes sense now ichigo is cell from dbz and he absorbs all his opponents traits/powers.
Maybe ichigo is part quincy and his mom had an affair?
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Ichigo, the true Deus Ex Machina
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Right.
So anyway, Aizen can troll people without his zanpakto (Unless he had met juha before?...) while being unable to move a finger.
Someone free him already, god.
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Well that explains why he can't do s'hit with fullbring/hollow mask anymore. Still hope for the fusion of all 3 sources of power in the world.
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Looks like I was right about his mother
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Pretty sure Ichigo's original power is that of a Quincy.
Quincy tends to absorb reitsu around them, and when he was inside that Quincy Jail his reitsu was "reawakened" in a sense that it remembers how to be a Quincy.
Speculation:
Then again whatever happen to the Hogyoku. I know that it reversed Aizen after the big battle and Urahara sealed him away. They never mentioned anything about the location of Hogyoku. I'm assuming its probably with Ichigo, assuming the Quincy origin story for Ichigo doesn't work out.
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zantgx Wrote:. I'm assuming its probably with Ichigo, assuming the Quincy origin story for Ichigo doesn't work out.
Because, pineapple it, why not. Ichigos power source gets retconned so often he'd make the people at marvel jealous.
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Lozmaster Wrote:Because, pineapple it, why not. Ichigos power source gets retconned so often he'd make the people at marvel jealous.
Well the series is coming to an end. The quincy arch is the last arch as Kubo stated.
As for the war potentials... I'm banking on the Vice-Captain of Zaraki, "Yachiru Kusajishi" is no where to be found :f6: [MENTION=8017]CrazyForDex[/MENTION]
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I have been wondering what Yachiru was doing all this time. I am pretty curious where Unohana has been as well.
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If Juha Bach is Ichigos real father and he's full quincy then I just lost all interest in Bleach.
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Satellite Wrote:If Juha Bach is Ichigos real father and he's full quincy then I just lost all interest in Bleach.
Ichigo's bankai is way too similar to Isshins, he has to be his son. Maybe Juha Bach is Ichigo's maternal grandfather.
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Forgot to add this
Whats the shadow territory? Maybe this is where they have been hiding all this time?It seem that Juha Bach is not able to go out of his general safe zone. How did aizen figure that out in the short period of time? I'm expecting to see aizen again hopefully.
In this panel you see the darkness cover his arm and he has to stop. Maybe he is only able to fight in that dimension. Their power might be connected in that zone from the vanderich(is this hueco mundo new name or something else?)
Anyone remember the movie where ichigo went to the dimension that was the middle between soul society? I cant remember the movie name.
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