New Sengoku Class - Ayame

The difference is that KMS keeps their classes updated all the time, whereas JMS can't or simply doesn't do the same. At the time of their release Hayato and Kanna had nothing to envy to other clases.

Bulls'hit.

Kanna has a third tier bind. That alone gave her far more envy than anyone. Then you have kishin and her party support barriers. Not to mention her secondary m.att -> m.att% feature. Kanna has mechanics that make her the most envied in the entire f'ucking game. Hayato not so much since he only really has fantastic movement options that other classes would only dream of having, but still it's something to envy.

Bulls'hit.

Kanna has a third tier bind. That alone gave her far more envy than anyone. Then you have kishin and her party support barriers. Not to mention her secondary m.att -> m.att% feature. Kanna has mechanics that make her the most envied in the entire f'ucking game. Hayato not so much since he only really has fantastic movement options that other classes would only dream of having, but still it's something to envy.

Hey I'm defending Hayato and Kanna here, I only said that going by other's comments that Hayato and Kanna aren't that relevant anymore. If I said I'd take Hayato over DW or Kaiser any day is because I consider they are great jobs with well defined identities within the game despite the craptop of jobs already out.

We could easily trade Beast Tamer and Mihile for an original Jett/Dragon Warrior and a Sengoku Archer in my opinion.

I'd definitely be up for that, and I'm sure you know how I feel about it.
I do like Mihile for stance though.

At least Jett is getting a revamp.

At least Jett is getting a revamp.

Source?

Meh, even if she is, it would probably just be number changes here and there to put her damage on level with the rest, instead of reworking her skills to make her unique or at least make all of them useful.

Source?

Meh, even if she is, it would probably just be number changes here and there to put her damage on level with the rest, instead of reworking her skills to make her unique or at least make all of them useful.

I hope those words are tasty because you're going to be eating them

Beast Tamer is kind of out of left field, but I don't mind it all that much since every version has made at least one completely irrelevant class. I kind of wish that they'd take Jett and Mikhail and group them all together as "world tour" jobs, or something.

I hope those words are tasty because you're going to be eating them

Well I had no idea there were already videos about it, but you sure are nice pointing things out.

Bulls'hit.

Kanna has a third tier bind. That alone gave her far more envy than anyone. Then you have kishin and her party support barriers. Not to mention her secondary m.att -> m.att% feature. Kanna has mechanics that make her the most envied in the entire f'ucking game. Hayato not so much since he only really has fantastic movement options that other classes would only dream of having, but still it's something to envy.

CLEARLY DOES NOT MAIN KANNA.

Kanna's damage is really weak and the range is just for show. Usually 1.5m range gets you more than just 4-5m lines on normal mobs with other classes. Kanna needs a bunch of tweaking and there's issues with haku as well concerning buffs. You're here talking about bind like it's the most prized thing in the world. Clearly you just use kanna mules and don't really care much for the class. In fact, you don't even see the potential hayato has. He's supposed to be able to dodge and counter attacks. His skills are really well put together but again, bugs and too weak.

Lol who envies kanna?

As for Ayame, I thought it was clearly obvious that JMS has a few design ideas ready for ayame and wants to see how people react to the one they like the most. If it's a good reaction then the class gets created. If not, then more development. I bet they might even do a survey or something with a reward to entice more people to voice their opinion. That would be the best strategy.

Cool class