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Should I switch my Xenon for a Demon Avenger?
Right now my Xenon is level 160 (unfortunately it took around 2 weeks to get to that level) and I'm not funded so I only have like 40k range clean. I most likely won't be able to get more funds for my Xenon.
I thought about making a Demon Avenger because it might be easier to fund but then I don't have the mesos to buy HP% or I probably don't have much stuff I can transfer from my Xenon to my DA that would benefit it.
I also heard that DAs are getting buffed because they were out as if they were nerfed right? Xenons I know most likely are getting nerfed in the future but I'm not sure if it would still be stronger than DA.
So what do you think?
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Guy, Hate to brake it to you. But Warrior gear cost nearly twice as much as Pirate Gear. And Thief Gear is just as much. Make a Xenon with Pirate Gear. Cheaper and still just as good.
I'll go ahead and Say this. If you're playing a class based on it's power. You're doing it wrong.
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Derosis Wrote:Guy, Hate to brake it to you. But Warrior gear cost nearly twice as much as Pirate Gear. And Thief Gear is just as much. Make a Xenon with Pirate Gear. Cheaper and still just as good.
I'll go ahead and Say this. If you're playing a class based on it's power. You're doing it wrong.
SHHHHHHH! Don't tell him that stuff about Pirate gear! I want my prices lower
Honestly, there's a bunch of stuff you can do to improve your damage for free. You know that ring event? Yeah get one complete ring and 3 other of the constituents and you have a set of 4 rings for FREE. Take advantage of the coin events that come in every event to buy the potentialable rings. You can sell them later for a higher price.
Also at 160 ish, you can do the Ulu city quests and solo Krexel. The once-a-day quest gives you 7.5mil for killing Krexel and that is honestly a good amount of money if you plan on getting things like skillbooks or better equipment. Also that quest chain gives a free potentialable shoulder pad. Then do the Ghost ship quest for a potentialable shoulder. Do the attendance event on multiple characters for the next few weeks- if you have perfect WEEKLY attendance, you get a free cube (granted it can demote your item to a lower grade, but if you didn't have a decent, usable potential in the first place, there is ZERO loss). I've been "unfunded" for a LONG time- if all you care about is damage, then you probably aren't going to have fun in this game because you will ALWAYS be out damaged by someone who can buy NX and super cube all their equipment to +15% stats and +ignore damage/+boss damage sort of deal. (If they could fix evo world drops too, that would be great. The instructors in the world had a chance to drop empress gear, which is great for unfunded people even clean).
Honestly, I'd stick with your Xenon because even with their damage nerf they still do a ridiculous amount of damage compared to a similarly funded character. Take advantage of ALL the free gear you can get a hold of (the epic-on-drop senior gear at level 60 from monster park/monsters, the above quests, hell even the pinnacle gear from the shop). Just slowly build up your funds and eventually you'll be able to do decent damage. Don't forget about the Demon Avenger though! Make it to minimum level 70 to get the link skill. If you have time, go back and make it 120 for the level 2 link. Also, if you have the space, make more link skill mules right now when all the characters are open. They make your "main" much better by just getting to level 70. It may not be an ideal way to spend your time, but if you want an easy way to increase damage, that's the single best way to do it, especially when you combine the cards into a character deck for even more free damage.
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Derosis Wrote:Guy, Hate to brake it to you. But Warrior gear cost nearly twice as much as Pirate Gear. And Thief Gear is just as much. Make a Xenon with Pirate Gear. Cheaper and still just as good.
I'll go ahead and Say this. If you're playing a class based on it's power. You're doing it wrong.
Id just like to point out, when Xenon was released, Pirate gear went up in price, and still has not returned to normal. That said, thief equips have always, and mostly always will be the most expensive.
Personally, I prefer Xenon.
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Niernen Wrote:Id just like to point out, when Xenon was released, Pirate gear went up in price, and still has not returned to normal. That said, thief equips have always, and mostly always will be the most expensive.
Personally, I prefer Xenon.
Didn't go up much for YMCK :T Everyone is all anaI about THief gear while I enjoy delicious above average pirate gear for way less than I would for Thief. Thief tyrants are 12b here(each piece too) with PIrates at 5~7b a pop.
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do root abyss daily on all the characters you can muster.
get "all scrolls will succeed" gear
dump ALL the +3 all stat armor scrolls you can afford into said gear.
there, good xenon equips that cost nothing to make.
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:do root abyss daily on all the characters you can muster.
get "all scrolls will succeed" gear
dump ALL the +3 all stat armor scrolls you can afford into said gear.
there, good xenon equips that cost nothing to make.
You mean 9 all stat right?
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Niernen Wrote:You mean 9 all stat right?
...I FORGOT THE PINNACLES EXISTED
yep, do those instead.
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:...I FORGOT THE PINNACLES EXISTED
yep, do those instead.
I can vouch for this method.
Working on a pair of katinas boots so far. Gonna end up 63 all stat when im finished
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:do root abyss daily on all the characters you can muster.
get "all scrolls will succeed" gear
dump ALL the +3 all stat armor scrolls you can afford into said gear.
there, good xenon equips that cost nothing to make. What are the chances of even getting an equip that has this from Root Abyss boxes?
Also, wouldn't it be better to use Attack Armour scrolls instead?
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Honestly, there's a bunch of stuff you can do to improve your damage for free. You know that ring event? Yeah get one complete ring and 3 other of the constituents and you have a set of 4 rings for FREE. Take advantage of the coin events that come in every event to buy the potentialable rings. You can sell them later for a higher price.
Also at 160 ish, you can do the Ulu city quests and solo Krexel. The once-a-day quest gives you 7.5mil for killing Krexel and that is honestly a good amount of money if you plan on getting things like skillbooks or better equipment. Also that quest chain gives a free potentialable shoulder pad. Then do the Ghost ship quest for a potentialable shoulder. Do the attendance event on multiple characters for the next few weeks- if you have perfect WEEKLY attendance, you get a free cube (granted it can demote your item to a lower grade, but if you didn't have a decent, usable potential in the first place, there is ZERO loss). I've been "unfunded" for a LONG time- if all you care about is damage, then you probably aren't going to have fun in this game because you will ALWAYS be out damaged by someone who can buy NX and super cube all their equipment to +15% stats and +ignore damage/+boss damage sort of deal. (If they could fix evo world drops too, that would be great. The instructors in the world had a chance to drop empress gear, which is great for unfunded people even clean).
Honestly, I'd stick with your Xenon because even with their damage nerf they still do a ridiculous amount of damage compared to a similarly funded character. Take advantage of ALL the free gear you can get a hold of (the epic-on-drop senior gear at level 60 from monster park/monsters, the above quests, hell even the pinnacle gear from the shop). Just slowly build up your funds and eventually you'll be able to do decent damage. Don't forget about the Demon Avenger though! Make it to minimum level 70 to get the link skill. If you have time, go back and make it 120 for the level 2 link. Also, if you have the space, make more link skill mules right now when all the characters are open. They make your "main" much better by just getting to level 70. It may not be an ideal way to spend your time, but if you want an easy way to increase damage, that's the single best way to do it, especially when you combine the cards into a character deck for even more free damage. Oh thanks for the tips though.
I have a question. I only completed 6 days of last Evolving Ring but I'm planning to complete all the days for the next Evolving Ring. Will those rings like disappear (trade in for those rewards) after this event is over or are they permanent? I heard that if you complete all 3 rings you have to trade them in for Absolute Ring right?
Derosis Wrote:Guy, Hate to brake it to you. But Warrior gear cost nearly twice as much as Pirate Gear. And Thief Gear is just as much. Make a Xenon with Pirate Gear. Cheaper and still just as good.
I'll go ahead and Say this. If you're playing a class based on it's power. You're doing it wrong.
I'm only playing the class that is better for lower funds. In general, I would prefer not to spend too much money on this game.
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The Anonymous Wrote:What are the chances of even getting an equip that has this from Root Abyss boxes?
Also, wouldn't it be better to use Attack Armour scrolls instead?
if you mean the ones that give 1 attack, i'd say no, 1 attk vs 27 main stat (per scroll)
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:if you mean the ones that give 1 attack, i'd say no, 1 attk vs 27 main stat (per scroll)
Oh I see. I guess it does make sense in this case. Also, do you know the odds of getting these types of equips from RA boxes?
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The Anonymous Wrote:I have a question. I only completed 6 days of last Evolving Ring but I'm planning to complete all the days for the next Evolving Ring. Will those rings like disappear (trade in for those rewards) after this event is over or are they permanent? I heard that if you complete all 3 rings you have to trade them in for Absolute Ring right?
You need 30(?) stamps on the card TOTAL. We (the collective on of the maplestory body) believe that you could hypothetically have 3 random evo rings as long as you have the proper amount of days stamped on your card because we assume gaga is going to take away 3 rings to "combine" them into a singular ring. If it comes to light that you actually need to have three, +11 rings at the end of the event, then I'm 100% sure that there will be significant outrage because Nexon did not thoroughly explain how the "extra day" to complete the event worked and a large population skipped a day thinking that they would be fine because there was a back up day just in case.
All rings are made tradeable permanent on the 11th day with the twelfth being a duplicate 11th day. The only day you can actually skip is the 11th day. At this point, it does not look like you can actually complete the ring event, but you can persist to get the full evolved single rings remaining, so you don't have to worry too much about not having 4.
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The Anonymous Wrote:Oh I see. I guess it does make sense in this case. Also, do you know the odds of getting these types of equips from RA boxes?
they're rare-ish, but if you do enough RA, you should be able to get one fast enough.
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:do root abyss daily on all the characters you can muster.
get "all scrolls will succeed" gear
dump ALL the +3 all stat armor scrolls you can afford into said gear.
there, good xenon equips that cost nothing to make.
you know how long it takes to get those RA gear?
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Eliul Wrote:you know how long it takes to get those RA gear? 
a good while, hence "that you can muster"
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:a good while, hence "that you can muster"
Ehh, right now Von Bon seems glitched and unbeatable. Maybe I can't do daily RA then
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The Anonymous Wrote:Ehh, right now Von Bon seems glitched and unbeatable. Maybe I can't do daily RA then 
Uh no. Just bind him and he falls pretty quick. All you need to do is bind him so he cant summon the chaos version and get just enough damage in.
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Stick with whatever playstyle you find fun and the funding will follow. You won't be instantly godly but character cards, link skills and Azwan will help your character along the way.
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Niernen Wrote:Uh no. Just bind him and he falls pretty quick. All you need to do is bind him so he cant summon the chaos version and get just enough damage in.
Or you can just attack him between such summons. As long as you can exhaust his HP before he exhausts your death count, you can do it.
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