Nader's Influence On November 2nd

 Spoiler

In a Zogby International poll released March 15, 2008, Nader received 6% of the vote in a McCain-Clinton-Nader race and 5% in a McCain-Obama-Nader race. According to pollster John Zogby, a self-described Democrat, "Nader’s presence in the race can potentially turn a lulu of a race into an absolute tizzy. The messages to Democrats are clear – number one, Nader may win enough support to get into the general election debates. Number two, what could be at risk is support among several key constituencies that the Democratic Party candidate will need to win in November, notably younger voters, independents, and progressives.” [13] However, according to pollster Mark Blumenthal, such an effect is overstated. [14]

A Lansing-based EPIC-MRA poll concluded that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would perform better against Republican John McCain among Michigan voters than Democrat Hillary Clinton. In the poll, taken April 4-9, 2008, presidential candidate Ralph Nader received 10 percent of the vote in the hypothetical McCain-Clinton election. McCain received 46 percent of the vote to Clinton's 37. In the McCain-Obama situation, conversely, Nader received 8 percent, while Obama led McCain 43 to 41 percent, leaving the Obama victory unaffected. [15]

A mid-September 2008 CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll found that Nader has the support of 4 percent of those polled, with Libertarian candidate Bob Barr and Green Party candidate Cynthia McKinney each at one percent.[16]

After the election became a contest between Obama and Clinton, Nader hinted more towards his own presidential bid by participating in the Green Party Presidential Debates in San Francisco on January 13, 2008, though not as an announced candidate. Then he formed a presidential exploratory committee on January 30, 2008, telling CNN he would run again if he could raise the necessary funds.[9]

- Accidentally click on enter before I could put this thread into Rubik's Cube and before I could add my own opinions on this post. Feel free to delete or to move. I will probably write-in my opinions Sunday night because I have a big exam coming up.-

Bob Barr was doing well... But of course that was before Sarah Palin lured many of them.

McCain, "Now introducing my Vice President and the best hockey mom in the United States."

Me, "Hey... did he just gender stereotype his own vice president?"

Roommate, "I think he did."

Me, "Now introducing the best soccer mom in the United States."

Roommate, "Now introducing the best Honda Odyssey Car-pooler in the United States."

Me, "Oh god. Politics is so pineappleed up."

Roommate, "Agreed."

Dont you mean November 4th?

I'm over-obsessing about this exam on the 2nd. Yeah you're right. Thanks for catching me on that :3

 Spoiler

A Lansing-based EPIC-MRA poll concluded that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would perform better against Republican John McCain among Michigan voters than Democrat Hillary Clinton. In the poll, taken April 4-9, 2008, presidential candidate Ralph Nader received 10 percent of the vote in the hypothetical McCain-Clinton election. McCain received 46 percent of the vote to Clinton's 37. In the McCain-Obama situation, conversely, Nader received 8 percent, while Obama led McCain 43 to 41 percent, leaving the Obama victory unaffected.

Yay Lansing! That is where I was born and still live (To any potential stalkers out there, move along. You won't want to stalk me ). Now that I got that out of my system, on to the topic.

It is surprising to see Nader's influence effecting a hypothetical poll when a woman was the possible canidate. I find it extremely surprising since Michigan is a mainly Democratic state. We'll vote democrat even if it is bad for us, for example, look at the recently resigned mayor of Detroit, Kwame Malik Kilpatrick.

I don't see Nader effecting this election that much unlike past elections, if he is even involved at all (I haven't heard much of Nader this time around). Things seem to be firmly shifted towards Obama right now and the only thing I think that will effect this election is if lazy asses don't get out and vote.

I don't know if I was on topic at all, I just came home from the bar, so I'm a little out of it.

Wait what? I didn't realize Nader was still running, what with McKinney representing the Green Party. So he's like, completely independent now? I like his determination.

Frog/Magus '08



Totally bipartisan.