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Big Bang 30 = new Genesis 30 ??
#21
Kabanaw Wrote:Uh, what? There's videos of ShiKage training in KMST, post BB, and without the 10x experience he got, he was still getting almost 30%/hr at 121 with terrible equips. How is that a hard time leveling?

Archmages/bishops used to get like >100%/hr on 1x at 12x in gms, then 400%/hr on 4x. 4x won't even exist post-bb, aside from events+cards (which could possibly change to less than 2x after bb).
He got 30%/hr because dragon strike is one of the new best 4th job mob skills.

loANGELol Wrote:Wow 30%/hr. Do you have a link? I would love you see that.
May be post BB, mobs have better spawn rate. I just remembered I had a hard time levelling my i/l without using Ultimate.

they do, typically.
Kents are the new 12x-13x training ground, and Rextons/cornians are the new 13x and 14x training grounds.
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#22
Arrg Wrote:Archmages/bishops used to get like >100%/hr on 1x at 12x in gms, then 400%/hr on 4x. 4x won't even exist post-bb, aside from events+cards (which could possibly change to less than 2x after bb).
He got 30%/hr because dragon strike is one of the new best 4th job mob skills.



they do, typically.
Kents are the new 12x-13x training ground, and Rextons/cornians are the new 13x and 14x training grounds.

How fast/slow do 12x AMs and Bishops level post BB in KMST?
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#23
Arrg Wrote:Archmages/bishops used to get like >100%/hr on 1x at 12x in gms, then 400%/hr on 4x. 4x won't even exist post-bb, aside from events+cards (which could possibly change to less than 2x after bb).
He got 30%/hr because dragon strike is one of the new best 4th job mob skills.



they do, typically.
Kents are the new 12x-13x training ground, and Rextons/cornians are the new 13x and 14x training grounds.

Still, experience rates are probablyl pretty high for every class. AMs and bishops can still teleport around a map like nobody's business to train.
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#24
Kabanaw Wrote:Still, experience rates are probablyl pretty high for every class. AMs and bishops can still teleport around a map like nobody's business to train.

Do you have actual figures to support what you wrote?
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#25
loANGELol Wrote:Do you have actual figures to support what you wrote?

No, but it can be assumed. lvl 1 dragon strike does about 530% damage to 4 mobs, and is slower than Chain Lightning, which hits 3 mobs for 595% damage. I/Ls also have much better mobility than Buccs, plus teleport mastery to help out. I don't see why I/Ls wouldn't get just as good exp/hr.
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#26
loANGELol Wrote:lol. opportunistic merchants are really taking advanrtagea on BB30. They are trying so sell them close to 300m in Windia and Gen30 has broken the 500m barrier. Anyone want to guess when the price of BB30 overtakes Gen30.

That's just sad...

The demand/merchanting for big bang is really overhyping the actual use for the skill in training.
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#27
*... Double post? O.o*
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#28
I believe one of the 12x Bow Masters in EllinForest said he was getting ~100%/hr at Pirates.
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#29
loANGELol Wrote:How fast/slow do 12x AMs and Bishops level post BB in KMST?

The f/p in our guild was getting like 30%/hr at 130 because of having to stay in the same training spot for 30 levels.

Kabanaw Wrote:Still, experience rates are probablyl pretty high for every class. AMs and bishops can still teleport around a map like nobody's business to train.

Compared to before the big bang, they'll be getting like 1/4 the exp they used to get, so yeah they're gonna feel slow as pineapple.

JoeTang Wrote:I believe one of the 12x Bow Masters in EllinForest said he was getting ~100%/hr at Pirates.

You're mistaken.

The reason training is so dull is because the highest exp rate we can get is 1.5x from bonding, which is like once a month if ever. There isn't party 2x, we don't have cards, we've only had ONE two hour 2x event since big bang a month/month and a half ago. It's 1x 98% of the time, and every level in 13x you lose like 4%/hr.
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#30
there's a vid in the video section of a mage training without an ultimate. Yeah it'll prrobably be slower than ulti training, but telecasting + improved 1v1 and mobbing-that's-not-ulti just got a hell of a lot better.
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#31
Arrg Wrote:The f/p in our guild was getting like 30%/hr at 130 because of having to stay in the same training spot for 30 levels.



Compared to before the big bang, they'll be getting like 1/4 the exp they used to get, so yeah they're gonna feel slow as pineapple.



You're mistaken.

The reason training is so dull is because the highest exp rate we can get is 1.5x from bonding, which is like once a month if ever. There isn't party 2x, we don't have cards, we've only had ONE two hour 2x event since big bang a month/month and a half ago. It's 1x 98% of the time, and every level in 13x you lose like 4%/hr.

I trained with ultimates for 15 levels, and while I did a lot less damage than most others, I never got above 15%, plus the training was boring as hell. It was hours of sitting in one spot pressing one button. I'd prefer having at least some fun while training.
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#32
street Wrote:How many times do you see big bang 30 in cwk? Remember how we thought ele wands would go down in price cause of cwk? Yea didn't happen

I've personally gotten 3 in something like 10 or 15 runs. They're by no means uncommon.
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#33
Kabanaw Wrote:No, but it can be assumed. lvl 1 dragon strike does about 530% damage to 4 mobs, and is slower than Chain Lightning, which hits 3 mobs for 595% damage. I/Ls also have much better mobility than Buccs, plus teleport mastery to help out. I don't see why I/Ls wouldn't get just as good exp/hr.

You have nothing to support your argument on Bishop. Anyway facts are more importance than your assumptions.
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