Question on Extraction on Boss Mob

Fiel Cant extract bosses mob that had over 2.1bi?

i havnt seem any bosses mob extraction that had over 2.1bil...

like the unlimited patch change all boss mob to over 2.1bil hp such as Von leon / CPB / Empress / Magnus / ARk/ Hillia / Chaos zak

even now such as the root abyss bosses change...

was wondering if unlimited hit on gms .... would fiel able to extract the bosses ? or he cant ? if he cant then how does other ppl know the true value of bosses hp?

No. The HP values are kept server side and are nowhere in the client data, therefore he cannot extract those values.

No. The HP values are kept server side and are nowhere in the client data, therefore he cannot extract those values.

if that is true ... how does other ppl know the true value of the bosses? such as leafre.net ... they alway known the hp of the bosses o.0

if that is true ... how does other ppl know the true value of the bosses? such as leafre.net ... they alway known the hp of the bosses o.0

Because they use a general estimation of how much DPS people are doing with how many people fight it. Its not an exact number, Its an estimation.


EDIT: And if you don't believe me, Ask Leafre.net, Why are you asking us about this when we dont know?

If you were to change your name to exclamation would you scream at everyone instead of speaking only in questions?

Because they use a general estimation of how much DPS people are doing with how many people fight it. Its not an exact number, Its an estimation.


EDIT: And if you don't believe me, Ask Leafre.net, Why are you asking us about this when we dont know?

Oh, no, I just meant compared to our version.

Oh, there are actually HP changes, minor ones, but still, here are the Live server values:

Pierre: 84b -> 80b
Von Bon: 105b -> 100b
Bloody Queen: 147b -> 140b

Vellum is not changed and remains at 200b

Oh, and here's a table with their DEF values:

Boss	gMS	kMS
Pierre	70%	80%
Von Bon	70%	100%
Bloody Queen	70%	120%
Vellum	70%	300%

Fiel doesnt extrac the pdr either how do they know the pdr too? and the hp change only by a small amount u think u can be that good on acc on estimate?

No. The HP values are kept server side and are nowhere in the client data, therefore he cannot extract those values.

That's not true, there's a new variable that contains the higher HP value that Fiel doesn't currently support with his extractions.

That's not true, there's a new variable that contains the higher HP value that Fiel doesn't currently support with his extractions.

oh that make sense and thank you =P

i was alway wondering for couple month y he couldnt extract it

Fiel doesnt extrac the pdr either how do they know the pdr too? and the hp change only by a small amount u think u can be that good on acc on estimate?

Also, Fiel does do PDR, take this for example:

수련용 티노
Level: 1
HP: 15
Physical Attack: 2
Magical Attack: 1
Knockback: 5
WDEF: 10
MDEF: 10
Accuracy: 4

The WDEF and MDEF values are PDR and MDR respectively, they just don't have a percent sign.

He doesn't usually do monster changes though because they're usually pretty insignificant, the fact that the Chaos Root Abyss monsters were changed so much is an exception that doesn't happen very often.

Perhaps someone should've considered actually asking [MENTION=1]Fiel[/MENTION]; how/why he does what he does?

Fiel doesnt extrac the pdr either how do they know the pdr too?

PDR is not too hard to estimate. just attack a mob with 0% PDR and 0% boss and see how much your damage is reduced. If you normally hit 100k and you hit 70k, the mob has 30% PDR, if you hit 50k it has 50% PDR, etc.

PDR is not too hard to estimate. just attack a mob with 0% PDR and 0% boss and see how much your damage is reduced. If you normally hit 100k and you hit 70k, the mob has 30% PDR, if you hit 50k it has 50% PDR, etc.

guess pdr is easy... but guess 300% pdr is harder than u think ... cuz u need like atleast 67% stack ignore even deal 1% dmg lol

WDEF has always been PDR. When PDR was first out in Big Bang I actually had started labeling it as such. But then people got confused as to what PDR actually was, so I switched back to WDEF and have kept it so ever since.

A few months ago I redid how templates work and, as part of that update to my code, it broke some other code. So as a quick fix I just included pretty much everything without percents and never got around to changing it back to the way it should be.