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How to make bowmaster on pvp better?
#21
HellenzSin Wrote:Gotta say Gali is weird, I'd like to play with them. In Windia, all top-tier people I've seen are 4 or so DrKs, 1 Bishop, 1 Shadower, 2 BaMs, 1 Aran, 2 Mercedes, and 1-2 DS? (kinda stopped playing, so I'm not sure how many OP DSs are good at PvP). There are other jobs with full PvP sets, but even with that they are only average, so I don't know a pro Evan. I know NLs and BMs with full PvP equips, but no way they can beat any of the top-tier.
I did all the time. Now it's completely fucked up with the legend classes. They re-nerfed hurricane, it was actually partially usable. It was so useable that I come in first place 95% of the matches. I didn't even have PVP gear at the time, I only had my training equipment.
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#22
HellenzSin Wrote:Gotta say Gali is weird, I'd like to play with them. In Windia, all top-tier people I've seen are 4 or so DrKs, 1 Bishop, 1 Shadower, 2 BaMs, 1 Aran, 2 Mercedes, and 1-2 DS? (kinda stopped playing, so I'm not sure how many OP DSs are good at PvP). There are other jobs with full PvP sets, but even with that they are only average, so I don't know a pro Evan. I know NLs and BMs with full PvP equips, but no way they can beat any of the top-tier.

i think it's cause gali is dead lol so you don't see many different people pvping
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#23
Liteness Wrote:bowmans cant really pvp that well Rolleyes best ive seen one get to is 500 points even if you get tons of battle atk wont help you much

500 is abysmal X_X

Highest I've gotten:

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I think the only battle attack I had at the time was from level 70 ambition too, as Im still using normal earrings, etc.

That being said, there are times when I do miserably (800ish) too. The ultimate thing to remember: NEVER try and fight with a guy 1 vs. 1. You'll lose 9 out of 10 guaranteed. We simply do not have the 1 vs. 1 firepower. Also, understand your terrain. Know where you can stand to use rain without getting hit (especially on that Pink Bean map...it does miracles to stand on the ledges out of range of the mech's laser), and run away from the merc when they first come down, as from experience, their unicorn attack knocks out 60-70% of your hp in one go.

We're definitely not built for PvP like some other classes are, but it doesn't make us a complete pushover either.
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#24
nobody does 1vs1 in pvp lol group attacks always gives more points, but for bowmans i usually kill them in 2-3 hits so they don't score much when im in it Rolleyes
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#25
Liteness Wrote:nobody does 1vs1 in pvp lol group attacks always gives more points, but for bowmans i usually kill them in 2-3 hits so they don't score much when im in it Rolleyes

If someone's purely buttdevestating everyone and not getting hit (i.e., a mech lazering both sides of the map from the center of the PB map) it's a lot better to go 1v1 against them, even if you lose.
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#26
Raul Wrote:If someone's purely buttdevestating everyone and not getting hit (i.e., a mech lazering both sides of the map from the center of the PB map) it's a lot better to go 1v1 against them, even if you lose.

i rather kill groups and die than ditch the group and go 1vs1 for less points
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#27
Liteness Wrote:i rather kill groups and die than ditch the group and go 1vs1 for less points

Eww Im sure you remember me Liteness Rolleyes I got way more then 500 points if I remember correctly..and so did another BM I played with...it doesnt matter though..like said before Pvp is garbage and shouldnt be in maple.. once you get battle attack you become TO strong and once you attack people start dropping like flies.

Edit : AlastReprise is the other BM im talking about..and his SS proves it lol. and Hi dere Biggrin
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#28
Icho Wrote:Eww Im sure you remember me Liteness Rolleyes I got way more then 500 points if I remember correctly..and so did another BM I played with...it doesnt matter though..like said before Pvp is garbage and shouldnt be in maple.. once you get battle attack you become TO strong and once you attack people start dropping like flies.

Edit : AlastReprise is the other BM im talking about..and his SS proves it lol. and Hi dere Biggrin

!!!! i keel all BM!
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#29
Icho Wrote:Eww Im sure you remember me Liteness Rolleyes I got way more then 500 points if I remember correctly..and so did another BM I played with...it doesnt matter though..like said before Pvp is garbage and shouldnt be in maple.. once you get battle attack you become TO strong and once you attack people start dropping like flies.

Edit : AlastReprise is the other BM im talking about..and his SS proves it lol. and Hi dere Biggrin

I think I've seen BMs do better in Bera, although I'm honestly not sure. The main problem with BMs is that they're super squishy. And yeah, Battle Atk really does unbalance PvP, but I still love it, even though I have like 13 B ATK. Rolleyes
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#30
It's funny how disproportionately battle attack helps, when my NL had no Rising Sun it was doing like 700-800 on an average round, +8 batk (2 pieces + misc) and it's suddenly able to get 1000+ in pretty much any round where I join at the start.


NLs are still pomegranatety against mobility classes though, no vertical range to speak of on any attack/debuff, so if someone's jumping, lag means you can't hit them. It's probably the worst on the PB map cause it has all the nearby platforms that every other class can hit you from.
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#31
Stereo Wrote:It's funny how disproportionately battle attack helps, when my NL had no Rising Sun it was doing like 700-800 on an average round, +8 batk (2 pieces + misc) and it's suddenly able to get 1000+ in pretty much any round where I join at the start.


NLs are still pomegranatety against mobility classes though, no vertical range to speak of on any attack/debuff, so if someone's jumping, lag means you can't hit them. It's probably the worst on the PB map cause it has all the nearby platforms that every other class can hit you from.

There're a couple of MMs that can kill me in 2-3 US Biggrin
Even with my crappy B ATK I don't think I do too badly myself though. Although this may have some relation to the fact that I'm a Shadower.
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#32
MrTouchnGo Wrote:Attack range, for the most part, doesn't matter in PvP.

What does matter is Battle ATK. Equips such as Larson's set adds battle ATK, which increases PvP damage.

I'm not experienced with BMs, but I think what most BMs do is set down your scarecrow close to a mob of people, jump over to the side, and spam inferno.

It's not really the class that sucks; I've seen every class do well in PvP except for Buccs, who really do suck.
Magic attack seems to do something though. I did tests with my friend with a full set. His 22x VIP wand did more than his clean eligos (Eligos took 8 hits on a DB friend while VIP took 7).
I still don't understand why people complain about pvp not being in maple. Its another addition. Sucks to be you if you get under 1k, because that is not Nexon's fault in any way. Quit Whining.
Broa's PvP communitie is the nicest community here and i would rather it not be ruined by people who complain all day because they suck at controlling their character.
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#33
Bomber Wrote:Magic attack seems to do something though. I did tests with my friend with a full set. His 22x VIP wand did more than his clean eligos (Eligos took 8 hits on a DB friend while VIP took 7).
I still don't understand why people complain about pvp not being in maple. Its another addition. Sucks to be you if you get under 1k, because that is not Nexon's fault in any way. Quit Whining.
Broa's PvP communitie is the nicest community here and i would rather it not be ruined by people who complain all day because they suck at controlling their character.

Typo?

Anyways, ATK does make a difference if you have a lot of it, but since no one's going to stand still waiting for you to get 7 or 8 hits in, the difference is so negligible compared to actual character control.

Bera has a pretty nice PvP community as well; when I PvP'd regularly, I saw familiar faces each round (especially that one mech whose IGN escapes me, but we had some friendly insulting).
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#34
MrTouchnGo Wrote:Typo?

Anyways, ATK does make a difference if you have a lot of it, but since no one's going to stand still waiting for you to get 7 or 8 hits in, the difference is so negligible compared to actual character control.
I've seen people with hacked stoonetooth do absolutely nothing compared to me.
I had a test myself...

Stats: Full agares (save my bloody sword in some cases) and 3/5 RS Vs non buffed mage

-All buffed w/ 68 atk 1 str glowing whip with blast: 7 hits

-All buffed excluding MW32 w/ 68 atk 1 str glowing whip: 7 hits

-All buffed w/ 173 attack bloody sword 1 star 38 str 7 dex: 7 hits

-All buffed excluding MW32 w/ 173 attack blood sword 1 star 38 str 7 dex: 7 hits

Although with bloody sword, he was near death by 6th hit likely to losing 11 battle attack. Attack does basically nothing, and in tests w/ my paladin and my friend's DB, magic attack did something.
Certain Tests were put here.
Also that wasn't a typo. People are complaining that pvp shouldn't be in MS. This is likely because they don't know how to PvP. I know the sentence sounds funny, but i honestly could care less. The PvP community in basil is so much better/nicer than here. Tongue
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