The Power of Swear Words.

There's nothing funny about it. You specifically omitted the age I said they begin learning it.
At no point did I say eight year olds were in kindergarten. This is not Shenanigans. Do not spam.

Lol, sure, fine.

It's kindgergarten level sociology most people begin to understand intuitively by five or six and have mastered by eight.

So what you're saying here is that this is a very elementary concept that most people start understanding without even thinking about it at the age of 5 or 6. Then you conclude that this fairly simple concept is then mastered just TWO or THREE years later by individuals that can barely comprehend the vastness of the size of the world. That's what you say, and that is completely ridiculous and thus deserving of my laughter.

Perhaps these children are able to understand on a very simple and uncomplicated (far from mastery) level the power play that can be engaged in with words. Do they understand the extent of those words? The implications and intricacies of them such as a mastery of the topic would demand? No, of course they don't. Most adults don't have a mastery over this subject.

You don't need to understand the size of the world to understand relating to other kids. Short of cognitive disabilities and differences like Asperger's and other Autism spectrum disorders it comes perfectly naturally.

Social dynamics form as early as preschool and by the age of eight concepts such as best friends and bullies have already established places for themselves in children's minds.

Have you ever seen the way children can taunt and torment one another? They can raise it to an art form even with their crude vocabulary and limited terms because the implications are there. Even if those implications are less sophisticated than who's the father of who and who's sleeping with who, the implications of who's not wanted, who's an outcast, who's a misfit, who's different are present and every bit as cutting.

Your own inability to recognize such a rudimentary thing is either willfully turning a blind eye to it, or pure obliviousness.

After the age of eight they've already learned the concepts and skills, it's just a matter of continually refining it to meet their current social situation, throughout junior high and into adulthood where the circumstances continue to evolve and change. The basic patterns never differ, it's just new ways of applying them.

My point in bringing up the ability to realize and understand the size of the world is pertaining to the cognitive development of spacial and relative thinking, which I definitely consider pertinent to a discussion determine where one fits in the social hierarchy. I'm sorry you were unable to understand that.

Surely don't don't actually consider the ability to determine who is a bully and who is a friend to be a mastery of the intricacies of intention, meaning, and affect and power of words. That's like saying a child that can put some building blocks together to build a simple bridge is equivalently prepared and has just as firm a grasp (mastery) as an adult that has been through schooling on how to properly construct a long term useful and effective bridge for whatever purpose it is needed.

Here's what i'm getting at, just because children may have a decent grasp on the simplest of meanings and intentions, that doesn't give them anywhere near a mastery of the subject matter. I believe most people never get a mastery of the intricacies, power, and influence of the spoken language, even in their own culture.

Truly, your own inability to recognize such a simple and uncomplicated thing as the difference between basic understanding and mastery is either willfully turning a blind eye to it, or pure obliviousness.

I'm sorry, you're flat out wrong.
You're demeaning the cognitive facility of children and completely underestimating their grasps of social dynamics and the complexities of the relationships they're capable of forming. You're also failing to understand a large portion of what was said, whether negligently, intentionally or accidentally and therefore not capable of arguing this appropriately.

Come back to me with a psych degree to back up your opinion, or even references to a study on the psychological development of children, and I'll give it some consideration. All you've demonstrated is a poor grasp of how disparate areas of cognitive development relate to one another and and a mild case of bigotry with some juvenile behavior when you lacked anything approaching a true rebuttal.

Haha, well clearly we disagree. I could use the same argument against you but again, that's rather pointless, as it contributes nothing to this conversation, as does your post above this.

However, just to add this real quick, you stating that my opinion is 'flat out wrong' because I don't have a psychology degree or studies of this on hand is a very narrow minded and pathetic viewpoint. Nonetheless, it is yours and I can't change that.

I however can and am willing to point out numerous references supporting my viewpoint, which was the exact same challenge I gave to yours, evidencing my viewpoint is based on fact, not merely something I yanked out of a random orifice.

Becoming familiar with the nuances of context and using words appropriately to get what you want works well enough for me. Don't actually have to swear for this to work.
As for words having an emotional impact on me, I can't say I know what that's like.