Let's talk about: The Dunning-Kruger effect

From wikipedia:

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias manifesting in two principal ways: unskilled individuals tend to suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate, while highly skilled individuals tend to rate their ability lower than is accurate. In unskilled individuals, this bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability to recognize their ineptitude. Conversely, highly skilled individuals tend to erroneously assume that tasks which are easy for them are also easy for others, thereby underestimating their relative competence.

Do you know anyone like this in your job, school or home?

And since this is a gaming site, do you think this effect can apply in your favorite multiplayer game?

Pretty sure my coworkers would feel me as the later, tbh I'm not familiar with anyone who is terrific at something and just doesn't admit to it. My best friend is more humble about it to fish for compliments, also being a perfectionist doesn't help it much

also being a perfectionist doesn't help it much

From you or from him/her ?

I could relate this effect to some peers I had back in my college.
And now to many friends I play with (online speaking), and with the boom of the MOBA's from a couple of years it seems that more and more people can be allocated under this effect. Or maybe is just easier to identify.

Dr. Dunning is running an AMA right now on reddit.
http://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments..._a_social/

Professor Any Cuddy and popular self help propagator Tony Robbins advocate the 'Fake it, till you make it.' approach. How does that tie in with the Dunning-Kruger effect? Don't we become more competent with confidence?

On this question,as some commentators have noted, it is not exactly the Dunning-Kruger effect. The DKE is prematurely thinking you’ve made it.
But there are some connections. Often, people new to a task do think they are imposters or not up to the task. And in a manner of speaking, they are right. They aren’t the proficient person they are going to be yet. They are the stand-in until their more experienced and skilled self arrives. They (and all of us in their position) are simply “green” when it comes to new tasks and there’s nothing wrong with that. Being green doesn’t mean you are the wrong person, just that you’ll be better at the task with experience and self-reflection.

I wouldn't know in real life. I try really hard to do things right and people at school and work tell I'm good and sometimes even great at what I do and I end up believing them and thinking very highly of myself... while still being insecure about everything I do. I guess I go from to the other irl.

In games I feel like I'm fairly reasonable about my skill. At least in Dota, the only game that I play in which skill actually matters a lot, I'm average and rather bad at certain things. Friend tells me that I've improved a lot but I still feel like an average scrub at it because my left hand motor skill is very limited and can only go so far. In this one I'd say I'm neither or the former.

From you or from him/her ?

Him, I'm a cut corners type of guy to be honest. I love efficiency, everything has to be perfect for him. For example;

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It took me /months/ to convince him to let me upload this, because he honestly told me he didn't find it impressive enough, that it just get ridiculed and pomegranate. The only legitimate problem is that he did "STRAWHAT" all caps, but besides that I couldn't ask for anything better

I've been guilty of the beginner form of it in terms of art, and I've seen it around a lot in other artists too. Its nothing groundbreaking imo, people being too stupid to realize their stupidity is an idea thats been around for a long time.

In terms of multiplayer videogames however I don't think the Dunning-Krueger effect applies if the game is competitive/pvp, because how people compare themselves to others is in the form of statistics (k/d, w/l, spm etc) which can't be influenced by any delusions of higher skill.

I can't really say much for the highly skilled half of it though.

If I understand correctly I believe that when it comes to one of the games I play, the second half of the paste describes me.
On Sunday I went to a tournament and 2-0'd everyone in an 8 man pool and people were getting hyped and saying how good I was when I was playing only to have me say "it's not hard, (character) is just really basic and not that many people know what to do against it"

This crap is what makes me mute players on DoTA. It's amazing how full of themselves people can be when they're merely an average player. I also admit I fall to this if I become too tryhard, but I realize that being too tryhard is not going to help much.

I think I'm guilty of it in everything most probably the former ._.

I started a new job recently and just thought that I was doing "OK". I did hear from a co-worker that my boss was very pleased with me, but I thought she was just trying to make me feel better. Today I got a new coworker and watching him on his first day really made me realize that I've actually been doing pretty well.

I think as far as MMORPGs go, it really depends on who you play with. In MapleStory, I have people on my BL with ~100k ranges thinking that they're godly and people with >500k ranges thinking they're average or even below average (legit thinking this, not just being modest).