The Revenge of Monster Magnet!

Putting points into HP is ridiculously inefficient. Think about it: When a warrior needs accuracy, what do they do? Put on some accuracy gloves, shoes, maybe a dex cape, maple weapon, etc. It's quite easy for a warrior to have a +70 accuracy set that they can put on when they need. When they don't need it, they take it off and put on some good STR gear.

Archers can't do this. For one, even perfectly scrolled HP gear wouldn't add more than 500, and since most bosses are doing 3-5k more than our max, that's not exactly going to help much. (Most) Warrior weapons don't need DEX to be equipped, but bows need STR, so we'll have to use a weaker weapon as well. I guess this is where Maple Kandiva comes in, and this tactic is used sometimes by people at HT even now.

By adding points into HP, though, we're sacrificing permanent damage. It'd be like forcing that warrior to wear the accuracy gear forever. Newties only do 2.8k, and you have 40 points dumped into HP? That HP isn't going to be doing pomegranate for you in your regular training. That's a massive sacrifice of damage you're making just for the sake of going to one boss, and that's not right. Warriors aren't expected to do this, why should archers?

It does look like Nexon America is finally taking notice of this disparity and giving us some alternatives as far as HP goes (Bosshunter armor, Naricain Pendants, Crimsonheart Cloak, etc.) and once we get a reasonable amount that ought to take out a lot of the complaining, but as it stands now it's not fair at all and something needs to be done about it, and that something ISN'T putting points into HP.

My dream would be for Nexon to change the HP formula and recalculate ranged chars base hp and implement it in an upcoming patch...

Max Hp is 30,000, Archers are lucky to get something around 4800-5000ish at lv200 without washing, that's 1/6th max HP if we are lucky...something is really wrong with that, we should be at least 10k base at lv 200 IMO.

lol at this thread turning into a "ranged doesn't have enough HP" thread.

By the time pink bean comes out, Nexon America will have released 20 atk hats that gives 500 HP. Might as well make zak helms useless jus like HT pends mmiright? So all the ranged people complainin jus needsa chill out. Just wait for the 500 HP 20 atk hat that'll come with the next NLC release.

lol at this thread turning into a "ranged doesn't have enough HP" thread.

By the time pink bean comes out, Nexon America will have released 20 atk hats that gives 500 HP. Might as well make zak helms useless jus like HT pends mmiright? So all the ranged people complainin jus needsa chill out. Just wait for the 500 HP 20 atk hat that'll come with the next NLC release.

HT pends aren't useless! hp wash, duh!

HT pends aren't useless! hp wash, duh!

Well when the new hats come out, we can all scroll our z helms for int and use it for washing.

Still though, half these ranged people here are like "anti-wash".

Well when the new hats come out, we can all scroll our z helms for int and use it for washing.

Still though, half these ranged people here are like "anti-wash".

Who wants to HAVE to spend billions of meso on equips and $600+ washing 200+Ap to survive PB like Stereo suggested?...not me.

Who wants to HAVE to spend billions of meso on equips and $600+ washing 200+Ap to survive PB like Stereo suggested?...not me.

You don't have to, jus add points into HP and it won't cost you a thing (cept some damage). Or just wait for the new hats

You don't just exclude Paladins and Mages. They're still a class no matter how imbalanced. And no you don't just say you can complain about your HP problems.

Ranged characters are the exact same thing as Lions in Trickster. For the sake of having all that fast insanely high offensive power, you lack defensive power. That is balance.

You don't just exclude Paladins and Mages. They're still a class no matter how imbalanced. And no you don't just say you can complain about your HP problems.

Ranged characters are the exact same thing as Lions in Trickster. For the sake of having all that fast insanely high offensive power, you lack defensive power. That is balance.

The problem is surviving, though. Not being useful. Pink Been totally owns ranged at the last phase. Ok with that. But hey, we are useful for the rest! The problem is that... Well, that whole screen attack kills all ranged in sight without a second chance (UNLESS you get lucky). Surviving 1 hit is hard enough, surviving 3 is quite nice already. We only want 1 hit, or just being able to dodge them, making us move constantly, and therefore not attacking that much.

I don't know how it works on Trickster, but I have the feeling that any character can survive a boss. At least at a high enough level.

I'm amazed everytime the topic is actually has no more connection to the beginning..

clearly it's something that happens regulary here.

Let's get back on topic, shall we?

Let's get back on topic, shall we?

Aye Aye D:

I sometimes get annoyed by the hp thing, my bad.

I'm amazed everytime the topic is actually has no more connection to the beginning..

clearly it's something that happens regulary here.

The main topic was already argued out to a satisfactory end, most of just prefer continuing our arguments in the same thread rather than making new threads to argue the same thing.

I'm amazed everytime the topic is actually has no more connection to the beginning..

clearly it's something that happens regulary here.

Unless someone can contribute to the original topic there's not much more to say... GameMX saw a DK use Magnet on a boss. Paladins tried Magnet (in one case maxed Magnet) and it didn't work on other bosses. Now we have to wait for a DK to try other bosses or a Paladin to try Rellik I guess.

Poor Heroes somehow got left out of the equation xD

Personally I think this is a strange hoax and nothing more. Or that DrK isn't entirely...

lol at this thread turning into a "ranged doesn't have enough HP" thread.

By the time pink bean comes out, Nexon America will have released 20 atk hats that gives 500 HP. Might as well make zak helms useless jus like HT pends mmiright? So all the ranged people complainin jus needsa chill out. Just wait for the 500 HP 20 atk hat that'll come with the next NLC release.

Those hats will also have 20 Matt and 500 Mp too.
And 0 slots.
Cause Maples loves magic equality