Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS

And that consolidates Meta's meta of always doing a fake claim to something!

In my defense during your game I didn't really care at the end, during Mas's I pinned down the godfather and was gonna go after the rest of the mafia if I hadn't died, and during this one I was just having fun.

If anything my meta is that I like to overly act out the flavor I am given.

Must have taken a lot of willpower to post with only quotes just because.

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Though during and after Day 3 I didn't even bother finding the actual words I needed and just edited every quote.

[*]Most of you missed Luv straight up saying he was an Intruder before Chaz's PM revealed that faction and their win condition, and continued to suspect him of being mafia-allied; I feel like Holy would've pointed this out had he been around but instead it took CJ to do it, and that's only because he was also an Intruder with that same win condition.
[*]At some point it seemed that faon's random theory of Kyrastri's roll making everyone a strongman got turned into a totally agreed upon fact. I'm surprised CJ didn't speak up here; it's unlikely that Meta would reveal they got an update, but CJ didn't have much of a reason to hide it. Similarly, I'm surprised that meow wasn't targeted that night; I figured faon actually believed the strongman thing and would have had Olsi target meow as a result.
[*]Meta at least justified their fake restriction with something that totally fit their flavor but it feels like none of you ever dug into that to see whether they knew who had their voice. You also generally suspected them over Olsi, despite them having equal readings of Town by meow. I was expecting Meta and TheBirds being able to trust each other being used at some point to shut someone's argument down, but it never really happened to that extreme.

I definitely missed the Luv claim when I originally read the end of Day 2. I have no idea why. But by the time Day 3 came along, he had missed a pivotal portion of his role in his reveal and then the rest of the holes that I pointed out...it just seemed like total bullshit to me. That's why I was so focused on Luv on Day 3. It was just full of lines that went, "THIS IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT!" to me. [MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; Read your whole role PM next time .-. I lied for the good of the cause but your holes wasted a lot of Day 3.

I have no idea why people started agreeing with the strongman theory from faon. At the point I saw that stuff everyone had just reached a consensus and I didn't think it was that big of a deal to care about, so I just moved on.

Meta's fake restriction really put a hamper on things for me. The fact that I tried to copy them on the first day and got nothing, combined with the fake restriction, really just jumped out at me the entire game. And then their own restriction (which I have to give them props for sticking to the entire game) making them nearly non-vocal (no pun intended), just really bothered me the entire game. I completely blame my power for this one. I wouldn't have been so on top of Meta if it wasn't for that Night 1 Failed Copy.

Polantaris - Copying also gives Action name.

I feel like that'd be a meh upgrade. It probably would have been better for the upgrade to have given what I said my ability did in my role reveal (which either no one noticed or brought up). In my role reveal I lied and said that I could use my ability until I copied another one, but I could actually only use it once. That'd be a pretty good upgrade, I think.

As I'm sure anyone who noticed figured out, I intentionally lied so that I would be a bigger target than meow that night. I knew I was dead the second I typed it, but it was worth it as people were half focused on CakesXD over Niernen, and I knew it would clear it up to get rid of me, whose power was essentially used to its maximum potential at that point.

I was screaming "lynch Niernen!" so hard at home since he was being so obvious.

I'll be honest...half the game I didn't really think Niernen was mafia, but when they revealed the roleblocker it was too much. Everything just fell into place, but Olsi was already the target at that point and after Day 4 no one really said anything to do anything off of. I tried to get people talking but was completely ignored in my attempt. I gave them a meta-game excuse, but really I don't know why I said that, as I didn't even believe myself when I typed it out. I think at the time I just didn't want to sidetrack everyone and end up giving them material to twist.

He was just trying to get the most out of the town before he was gone. It worked, incredibly.

I was so flabbergasted when Holypie revealed after faon just randomly went for it, especially after faon confirmed they were mafia beforehand. He was clearly fishing for information. But, they may have killed Holypie that night anyway just for the hell of it, to see if he was doctor, and Holypie revealing gave me the perfect opportunity to put my semi-fake second doctor into effect.

In my defense during your game I didn't really care at the end, during Mas's I pinned down the godfather and was gonna go after the rest of the mafia if I hadn't died, and during this one I was just having fun.

If anything my meta is that I like to overly act out the flavor I am given.

I gotta give you props for sticking to this one, although I'm pretty sure you would have been insta-lynched if you dropped it, especially after Shidoshi was killed.

[MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; It was my first time playing as mafia, only been town before.

Congratz to the town! Pity I couldn't take much part on it

xBTAx; I didn't end up getting near to using my skill but what exactly was my skill meant to do?



Was it a temporary/permanent shield of some sort that I can pass onto people?

I'm not at my computer currently so I can't just post my notes on you, but I did forget to explain yours, so, basically: day 3 (I think it was) you'd finish your invention. At night you could pass it off to someone if you wished (and they could pass it in turn). If someone got contained with it on them, it'd mess with the Soul Container. Dead players would then get a vote over the next phase for a dead player to revive, though they would only live for the next day.

Oh, and VerrKol's "loophole" was just infecting the person the mafia was killing.

(Also given how much you guys wanted Kyrastri's rolls, like none of you have mentioned them. :f6

Eh. I actually wanted to be town this time around . Gave it a good shot though, town was a lot stronger in terms of power than i originally thought and i let myself slip up.

(Also given how much you guys wanted Kyrastri's rolls, like none of you have mentioned them. :f6

I liked a lot of the options, but "Cleared Up" and "Poker Face" were a bit too specific. "One on One" and "Murder" are ones that I really wish I could've seen in action.

Holypie; We actually had no idea you were the doctor. But coming out turned out to save the town anyways since polantaris became the second doctor. If not for that, we could have probably dragged it on for at least another day.

Jesus... [MENTION=13694]faonkarino[/MENTION]; gamble of the century

Ah, it's a shame that some of the more interesting Town roles died before they could use their power to the fullest.

I had actually assumed that a Mafioso had somehow stolen Meta's voice, and we wouldn't get it back until we lynched whoever took it, so I put it on the back burner in my mind. Didn't at all suspect that TheBirds and Meta were connected.

Awesome game, xBTAx, and good job Townies/Intruders!

Ditto; I had no idea that Meta and TheBirds were connected, especially since TheBirds eventually claimed neutral and Meta was investigated town and was (safely) believed. It was pretty clever how the claims worked out; they all had a semblance of truth, though I'm surprised the no-power thing didn't come around to bite you two in the ass. Polantaris was on Meta's case for a while because of it.

lol thanks hopefully the town isn't too mad at me for lying since i was trying to avoid becoming a target since my death would have meant meta's as well and would have hurt the town.

I don't think anyone could be angry at your lie, definitely; it wasn't entirely false, and it served to save the both of you. If anything your avid defense of Meta when she was targeted (before the Verr lynch, IIRC?) would have tipped someone off of your connection, but I don't think anyone caught on at the time.

I have no idea why people started agreeing with the strongman theory from faon. At the point I saw that stuff everyone had just reached a consensus and I didn't think it was that big of a deal to care about, so I just moved on.

I think it was the general confusion; the strongman theory worked with the flavour text and nobody had suggested an alternate theory. The game was generally pretty confusing so I think had we known a little more about the game (say, if it weren't so unusual), we wouldn't have been inclined to passively accept the strongman theory, or at the very least object with something a little more reasonable.

I'll be honest...half the game I didn't really think Niernen was mafia, but when they revealed the roleblocker it was too much. Everything just fell into place, but Olsi was already the target at that point and after Day 4 no one really said anything to do anything off of. I tried to get people talking but was completely ignored in my attempt. I gave them a meta-game excuse, but really I don't know why I said that, as I didn't even believe myself when I typed it out. I think at the time I just didn't want to sidetrack everyone and end up giving them material to twist.

The reason why I didn't believe Niernen's (town) claim was because his targets did not line up with his supposed intent to me; only Holypie seemed excused since it was the first day, and it would have explained why faon knew of the doctor when he died (before the real 'it was a really good fluke' explanation).

I liked a lot of the options, but "Cleared Up" and "Poker Face" were a bit too specific. "One on One" and "Murder" are ones that I really wish I could've seen in action.

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I do not want to see "Murder" in action, oh god...

[MENTION=3177]xBTAx[/MENTION]; now that you mentioned it, what would have happened had I rolled the dice towards myself?

From the discussion thread:

I mentioned twice that I caught LuvDWayULie; sending a message to Shidoshi; the night he died. A bit sad that only Luv seemed to pick up on it. The "cat" I was referring to in one of my limericks was meowmixx; - I changed my avatar several hours after making that post. I left it ambiguous because it was funny.

I didn't catch your first one, and even with your explanation I don't think I would have picked it up. I noticed the deliberate use of Luv (since loved and luv'd use the same number of syllables so it'd be a deliberate wording on your part), but didn't think much of it. Why did you watch Luv, by the way, and not someone like Meta? They both had a restriction, and to me Meta was a lot more suspicious by the end of Day 1, so I'm really curious to see your reasoning on that.

Also, I was technically only limited to rhyming. I chose to use limericks to make my restriction more fun for me, and to give me the option of NOT using a limerick later on if I wanted people to pay attention to something.

I did notice that it didn't mention that you had to use limericks in particular, though you stuck pretty rigidly to the limerick form so either way it wasn't too big of a deal. I'm not sure whether I would have saved that information, though; a change in posting restriction would be pretty suspicious, since it wouldn't be a slipup when you're trying to draw attention to something.

(and thank you for your compliment)

xBTAx; now that you mentioned it, what would have happened had I rolled the dice towards myself?

I actually meant to ask this myself. I noticed a lot of roles have disclaimers about using the ability on yourself. Was the a reason for this? Was any ability in particular going to do anything if you targeted yourself with it?

About the dice outcomes thing: The reason I didn't really talk about it is because they seemed pretty straight forward. Interesting mechanic, but really random. Thanks for revealing the info by the way.

I actually meant to ask this myself. I noticed a lot of roles have disclaimers about using the ability on yourself. Was the a reason for this? Was any ability in particular going to do anything if you targeted yourself with it?

About the dice outcomes thing: The reason I didn't really talk about it is because they seemed pretty straight forward. Interesting mechanic, but really random. Thanks for revealing the info by the way.

It's almost 4 AM so I'm not quite sure why I'm answering this instead of sleeping, but in Kyrastri's case, a self-target would work as intended. I'm struggling to think of where else I advised that right now, but generally it was because it'd backfire in a way that would have been mean/unfun if I had just let them go ahead with. I mean, most of the rolls do something bad to either person, and rolling a 2 against yourself would waste an entire day of voting.

The thing about the dice that I'm surprised no one seemed to think about (and I stupidly forgot to specifically mention in that notes post) was how rolling a pair of dice actually works probability wise. It's not just an equally random number between 2 and 12 (and though I wasn't using real dice, the app I used (which I linked earlier in the discussion thread) simulated both dice and not just the sum). The further you go in either direction from 7, the less likely it is to be that number, but with equal probability to the other direction. That's why everything except the ends is basically the same action, just done to either Kyrastri or the target depending on whether it's higher or lower.

It's almost 4 AM so I'm not quite sure why I'm answering this instead of sleeping, but in Kyrastri's case, a self-target would work as intended. I'm struggling to think of where else I advised that right now, but generally it was because it'd backfire in a way that would have been mean/unfun if I had just let them go ahead with. I mean, most of the rolls do something bad to either person, and rolling a 2 against yourself would waste an entire day of voting.

The thing about the dice that I'm surprised no one seemed to think about (and I stupidly forgot to specifically mention in that notes post) was how rolling a pair of dice actually works probability wise. It's not just an equally random number between 2 and 12 (and though I wasn't using real dice, the app I used (which I linked earlier in the discussion thread) simulated both dice and not just the sum). The further you go in either direction from 7, the less likely it is to be that number, but with equal probability to the other direction. That's why everything except the ends is basically the same action, just done to either Kyrastri or the target depending on whether it's higher or lower.

I think I did mention that once, after the first dice roll I said something about wanting to see what 2 and 12 did.

Why did you watch Luv, by the way, and not someone like Meta? They both had a restriction, and to me Meta was a lot more suspicious by the end of Day 1, so I'm really curious to see your reasoning on that.

(and thank you for your compliment)

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Mainly because at the time I was suspicious of both and Luv had been bragging about having an awesome night power.[/COLOR]

I'm a bit late, but whatever.

I don't have much to say about this game other than what I have already said before I died or someone else said (especially Shidoshi's posts.)

Lemme see...

The game was a bit tilted to town (as Shidoshi pointed) since the neutral ended up choosing town. A faction that can "choose" to help other faction most of the time picks town. But it was a good game either way, so thanks BTA for making it and moderating it, thanks everyone for participating and not undergoing fits of rage or anything like that, and thanks for the compliments too.

Ah yes, about the Holypie thing: I didn't KNOW you were the doctor, but you were one of my possibilities. Out of my possibilities, I decided to pick you. It was an educated guess, I suppose, but it worked out. It's a shame the mafia pretty much got brutalized the following days, but oh well. Still a good game.

I remembered I said I would post something here but I forgot what to post..