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A recent conversation has me curious about the level of interest you guys have in competitive gaming. By this I don't mean "I personally use x because it works for me in y but that's just me", or "HURRRRRRRRRRRRR CRIT ROCKETS ARE SHINY", but tangible analysis focused on actually winning.

If you've talked to me personally or have seen my pretentious-as-hell posts about S4 (and recently TF2), you've probably noticed that I play games competitively by nature. I guess the reason I'm wondering is because I literally have no one to talk to when it comes to gaming; I don't post on a forum that actually features a competitive scene anymore now that S4 has gone to the shitter, so I'm kind of lost. (And I'm slowly working my way into the TF2 competitive scene, so I'm sort of looking for someone to practice with until I'm actually in a position to post on a competitive forum, but that's my own personal gripe.)

Up to this point I feel like I'd be out of place and making myself look like an asshole if I continued posting in this section...since, well, I'm competitive. So, how many of you are actually interested in competitive gaming?

I like how you talk about being elitist when it comes to competitive gaming and then go on to talk about games that aren't seriously competitive.

Edit: Southperry is mostly a casual gamers forum since it's primarily a MapleStory forum, but there's a small level of interest in competitive gaming here. I personally love competitive gaming (mostly SC2, some Dota, some SC:BW, and I'll watch a fighting game or FPS once in a while), I just don't spend much time on this site talking about it. Just keep in mind that the average gamer plays games just to have fun.

Competitive games are fun to an extent. They aren't fun when people use the cheapest way 100% of the time to win or use third party programs or glitches to "win." Legitimate competitive games with equally experienced players are fun.

I like how you talk about being elitist when it comes to competitive gaming and then go on to talk about games that aren't seriously competitive.

Edit: Southperry is mostly a casual gamers forum since it's primarily a MapleStory forum, but there's a small level of interest in competitive gaming here. I personally love competitive gaming (mostly SC2, some Dota, some SC:BW, and I'll watch a fighting game or FPS once in a while), I just don't spend much time on this site talking about it. Just keep in mind that the average gamer plays games just to have fun.

TF2 can be competitve though O_O.

Seen the games? Soldier/Demoman/Scout/medic only. No items. Final Destination.

TF2 can be competitve though O_O.

Seen the games? Soldier/Demoman/Scout/medic only. No items. Final Destination.

Even Pokemon has a competitive scene. TF2 isn't designed to be a competitive game and isn't balanced as such.

Any well-designed game can have a competitive scene. The nature of its intended design doesn't really interfere with how "seriously competitive" the game is most of the time if it was good enough to have one in the first place.

I'm a competitive gamer to an extent. I mean, I play rhythm games competitively. I care about them a lot. Getting better with my coordination and reflexes amuses me and drives me to get better in a crazy way. I end up pushing myself to limits and strategies that I'd never think about putting into action in my real life issues. I also used to play Counter-Strike 1.5/1.6 competitively, but not anymore because the technique's been so pushed to the last extent that I can't get the hang of it anymore.

Don't ever get me started on rhythm games, I mean it.

I think I'm a competitive gamer in the literal sense of the word. Whether or not I'll decide to try to make it into the competitive scene? I don't know. I'm only really looking to get competitive in LoL. I'd like to get competitive in the fighting game community, but I'm just not good enough yet.

Any well-designed game can have a competitive scene. The nature of its intended design doesn't really interfere with how "seriously competitive" the game is most of the time if it was good enough to have one in the first place.

No, but the lack of developer support, strong community support and non-player interest (FPS games in general are plagued by this) does. Skill cap and depth of mechanics is also a consideration, but LoL is quite popular and has done well as a competitive game since Riot started pushing it as an e-sport and throwing money at it even though it's lacking a lot in that field.

Anyhow, I don't want to hate on TF2, I think it's a fun game. I was just amused that the topic of the thread was "is my interest in competitive games inappropriate for Southperry?" and then you mention two games that are usually regarded as casual and that have relatively small competitive scenes.

I'm too gimmicky to be competitive, and yet I still manage to win a lot of the times. I'd really like to be more competitive but it's against my nature to pick the cheapest or most effective strategy in the game. I'd rather wow the crowd than make them say "Oh, it's just Dark Wesker again."

Competitive games are fun to an extent. They aren't fun when people use the cheapest way 100% of the time to win or use third party programs or glitches to "win." Legitimate competitive games with equally experienced players are fun.

K-style huehuehue

No, but the lack of developer support, strong community support and non-player interest (FPS games in general are plagued by this) does. Skill cap and depth of mechanics is also a consideration, but LoL is quite popular and has done well as a competitive game since Riot started pushing it as an e-sport and throwing money at it even though it's lacking a lot in that field.

Anyhow, I don't want to hate on TF2, I think it's a fun game. I was just amused that the topic of the thread was "is my interest in competitive games inappropriate for Southperry?" and then you mention two games that are usually regarded as casual and that have relatively small competitive scenes.

Well yeah, ironically those are the two games I've been relatively public about. A competitive scene is a competitive scene in my opinion. What I was getting at is that I just tend to talk about every game competitively rather than just the ones that are developed around the idea.

I'm too gimmicky to be competitive, and yet I still manage to win a lot of the times. I'd really like to be more competitive but it's against my nature to pick the cheapest or most effective strategy in the game. I'd rather wow the crowd than make them say "Oh, it's just Dark Wesker again."

That's the mindset behind competition; inevitably, though, someone will show up that knows the perfect way to stop the common ace, and you'll have to keep switching it up. That's what gets me so interested.

K-style huehuehue

I'm glad that sh*t isn't in GunZ : The Second Duel. It was okay in the VERY BEGINNING of GunZ when it was first discovered, where all there was was wall running continuation/climbing, REGULAR Butterfly and Slash Shot. Those were just considered "advanced" moves back then. Then, it evolved into more severe glitching that just turned into a big mess... It's disgusting now. It needed to go and I'm glad it did.

Competitive card games on motorcycles in space.

I'm only a competitive gamer if I'm actually interested enough in the game to put work in it. Otherwise, I'm just another scrub casual. I usually go for games where I'm allowed to take my time and think which is why I play competitive Yu-Gi-Oh (CG) and Pokemon (VG). I can't stand fast-paced games like SF or LoL. :/

Competitive card games on motorcycles in space.

I'm only a competitive gamer if I'm actually interested enough in the game to put work in it. Otherwise, I'm just another scrub casual. I usually go for games where I'm allowed to take my time and think which is why I play competitive Yu-Gi-Oh (CG) and Pokemon (VG). I can't stand fast-paced games like SF or LoL. :/

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I guess I would be considered the typical "casual gamer". I play to have fun most of the time, so I enjoy the game winning or losing. I would really like to become better at games, but at the moment i don't have the time to invest into the gaming community. College takes up a lot of free time for studying and whatnot, but I would love to be able to compete in a manner that would be a challenge to most people. I want to be a good dedicated gamer in things like smash brothers, LoL, or SC2, but at my current skill level, I'm merely a nub with a lot more experience than others. I'm no where near a competitive level of play.

I do enjoy watching competitive gaming though. It is extremely exciting to watch and I'm often impressed how much work professionals actually put into their games.

That's the mindset behind competition; inevitably, though, someone will show up that knows the perfect way to stop the common ace, and you'll have to keep switching it up. That's what gets me so interested.

That's also what sort of makes me a good and bad player. I tend to switch things up so much, I can't stick to one or two characters/teams in fighting games, so I don't think I reach the full potential of them. But, since I use almost all characters, I know how they move, how they play, what they tend to do.

For example, I just recently picked up Vergil in UMvC3 and now I do better against him, since I have a feel for his normal attacks that leave him open for years unless he cancels them. I played as Zero and know I'll most likely lose if I don't keep constant pressure against people. And that's how I've been countering Zero, I have to get in his face before he can get in mine.

Another advantage of being gimmicky as that the opponent most likely won't know what's happening. It's hilarious to see people attacking my Golden Armor Hsien-Ko and having them eat a combo afterwards.

I'm somewhat competitive, but I never really get into it, except with fighting games. I could lose 500 straight matches of a FPS or RTS game and not bat an eye, but only a fighting game can get me to nearly break my fingers learning combos and set ups and whatnot. I really have fun watching fighting game tournaments/videos, too.