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Or, if you guys think about it, Testonen could be the Pirate legend aprentice, and then Testonen would give the Job Advancements to whoever the Pirate Hero is.
Personally, I think that Testonen is etheir dead, or joined the Black Wings.
Anyway, nice MAPLE theory haha. Who knows what's next.
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Sure that due to sprites being, well, sprites they lose a lot of detail and thus the heart shape could have been lost but two things, one the wolf there has a red mark and the Aran mount as close to red it gets is brown and second theres also a bird in that artwork but Arans never gets anything like it, so I wouldn't use that as a reliable source unlike Mecerdes arrow which do have that symbol in-game and with Mir at least it looks like they tried to make the emblem which also appears in in-game artwork.
I do like this theory but it needs to be more solid, as right now is almost as solid and the M.A.P.L.E. thing.
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Luxeraph Wrote:Sure that due to sprites being, well, sprites they lose a lot of detail and thus the heart shape could have been lost but two things, one the wolf there has a red mark and the Aran mount as close to red it gets is brown and second theres also a bird in that artwork but Arans never gets anything like it, so I wouldn't use that as a reliable source unlike Mecerdes arrow which do have that symbol in-game and with Mir at least it looks like they tried to make the emblem which also appears in in-game artwork.
I do like this theory but it needs to be more solid, as right now is almost as solid and the M.A.P.L.E. thing. and thus why I keep having to reminding people it's just speculation. I'm not saying it's SOLID PROOF, it's just something they could follow up on and we are having a nice conversation about possibilities they could do just that with.
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kimicatdemon Wrote:and thus why I keep having to reminding people it's just speculation. I'm not saying it's SOLID PROOF, it's just something they could follow up on and we are having a nice conversation about possibilities they could do just that with. You only told 2 people. Unless this statement includes different threads.
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Bomber Wrote:You only told 2 people. Unless this statement includes different threads.
Naw, I just feel like having to tell more than one is a bit of a deal. (repeating myself is one of my bigger pet peeves and it urks me more than it should when I do it. Sorry. oxo;; )
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Bomber Wrote:You think I implied this. I didn't. I was saying that because it turned from making sense a bit, to becoming crackpot theories. But did I say that was a problem? No.
Nope, sorry, it's not what I think, it is a fact. You didn't say you had a problem, but posting showed you did have a problem. Fact.
Eliseo Wrote:or joined the Black Wings.
Um, why?
Bomber Wrote:You only told 2 people. Unless this statement includes different threads.
They said it outloud on a public forum which means she told everyone.
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:Nope, sorry, it's not what I think, it is a fact. You didn't say you had a problem, but posting showed you did have a problem. Fact. That's an assumption. You can think what you want, so say it's fact when you have no true proof, but my intentions and mind tells you otherwise. You don't know what's in my head. I'm no longer going to argue with this because it's obviously not going any further from here. It's just you telling me what I think, which is stupid.
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:Um, why?
Well, considering the heroes tend to not remember anything upon waking up, if the Black Wings found him first, they could throw a couple of lies around and make for a plot that wouldn't be a rehash of another heroes. there's always that...
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Viaje Wrote:An image of an humanoid figure meant to be 'mind'. Yeah, you're going to have to elaborate.
Speculation X is so much more valid than Y I heard. I think Mercedes symbol could be mind because it really just looks like a f'ucking head (and even then, only sort of). The OP concluded body based on the image alone. I find the image to be unclear and the theme of mind to be equally applicable to the image and incredibly more applicable to the class design and story. There are thematic fits for all the other classes, and imo mercedes doesnt fit body for pomegranate.
Quote:It's rather sad that you consider my post 'below par' simply because I'm disagreeing with you.
No it's below par because it appears you didn't think for a second.
Quote:What you said doesn't make any sense.
Most things don't when you don't think about them.
Quote:Go ahead: patronize me.
On it.
Quote:Before you get a chance, allow me to analyze what you've already said:
I would tell you to not do it poorly, but it's too late for that.
Quote:So are Evan's.
Evan storyline 101. You don't do shi't except have a magic soul link with the goddamn batman A MOTHERpineappleIN' DRAGON. Oh my god! It fits with the hero of soul does it not? sheeeeeit mang this is unpineappleing believable (you are now being patronized). The only thing special about evan is that his soul is bound to a motherpineappleing dragon who is then in turn, magic. Because I take things to extremes, here's some more patronizing. Don't let the usage of heart confuse you. It's not the same sense as what Aran has. I'm sure you wouldn't have anyway, but this blue magic text is just so good for patronizing.
Quote:Based on what?
Based on having access to more knowledge about who they are and what they are doing and what is going on than any of the other legends. She is a f'ucking elf need I remind you.
BONUS ROUND.
I've explained my thoughts as to why I think Evan is soul and Mercedes is mind.
Time for Aran being heart.
First off, the relavent definitions for this usage of heart. Some dictionary, a few select noun entries Wrote:Courage or enthusiasm
- they may lose heart as the work mounts up
- Mary took heart from the encouragement handed out
- I put my heart and soul into it and then got fired
The central or innermost part of something
- right in the heart of the city
The vital part or essence
- the heart of the matter
Dude was frozen in ice for some bullpomegranate amount of time that i forget, was sapped of his powers and memories, but still came out with his fight intact. That's heart with bossmode engaged. Also being a warrior his attacks are naturally up close and in your face. Something very thematically fitting with the theme of heart. He was also the first legend to "return." He was sure of himself and his cause even when he was weak. That's heart.
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Looks like I made someone blow a gasket.
I assure you that I put plenty of thought into my posts.
Perhaps you should spend more time actually refuting the things I have said.
Vague assertions that I "didn't think about it for a second" don't count as an actual discussion on the matter.
I'm too old to be interested in dirt kicking.
I well know the storyline of Evan (having done it about one and a half times now). My point was simply that your reasoning behind Mercedes being Mind was so vague that it could easily apply to another Hero.
Apparently you didn't actually understand what I was pointing out because you've up and done it again.
Mercedes was frozen in ice. Though she didn't lose her memories, she did lose her strength and still came out with her fight intact. That's heart with bossmode engaged. Also, many of her attacks are melee attacks that are up close and in your face. Something very thematically fitting with the theme of heart in some way that I won't fully explain, but, goddammit, up in your face equals heart because I said so. She was sure of herself even when she was weak. That's heart.
No, you haven't explained why Mercedes is Mind. All you've said is "she remembers stuff, dude".
That means that if either of the remaining Heroes remembers their past, they equally qualify for Mind.
For future reference, being 'loud' is not the same as being right.
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Viaje Wrote:Looks like I made someone blow a gasket.
Not ever baby, not ever.
Quote:I assure you that I put plenty of thought into my posts.
It's the thought beforehand I am/was questioning.
Quote:Perhaps you should spend more time actually refuting the things I have said.
Vague assertions that I "didn't think about it for a second" don't count as an actual discussion on the matter.
I'm too old to be interested in dirt kicking.
I'll remind you that you literally asked for it and that that was not a majority of my post.
Quote:I well know the storyline of Evan (having done it about one and a half times now). My point was simply that your reasoning behind Mercedes being Mind was so vague that it could easily apply to another Hero.
Yet less vague than yours of her being body. How you find mine less valid is what baffles me. And f'ucking lol it actually doesn't fit the evan storyline at all. Having done it so much you should realize that evan is kind actually of an idiot.
Quote:Apparently you didn't actually understand what I was pointing out because you've up and done it again.[/quote
Actually the Aran reasoning had nothing to do with with anything else. So i haven't up and done it again. That was for my own enjoyment. Way to use it as an arguement to somehow poorly validate the possibilty of mercedes actually being heart in an arguement where my entire point is that her emblem is really not conveying anything clear and she could actually be mind. Thanks.
[quote]Mercedes was frozen in ice. Though she didn't lose her memories, she did lose her strength and still came out with her fight intact. That's heart with bossmode engaged. Also, many of her attacks are melee attacks that are up close and in your face. Something very thematically fitting with the theme of heart in some way that I won't fully explain, but, goddammit, up in your face equals heart because I said so. She was sure of herself even when she was weak. That's heart.
Except for the majority of her attacks which aren't melee by definition. But again. If you want to create that arguement for her in a serious fashion. Go for it. It only supports my arguement. If you want to make a troll arguement about something that isn't relevant to this discussion at all, by all means grasp at those straws. Conveying the weakness of why mercedes is body helps my arguement.
Quote:No, you haven't explained why Mercedes is Mind. All you've said is "she remembers stuff, dude".
And her stroyline. And her moveset. And MOSTLY I'm just not sold on that fucking symbol being body.
Quote:That means that if either of the remaining Heroes remembers their past, they equally qualify for Mind.
It's funny because i expect the pirate hero to be the first of his kind, and the theif to not remeber/be a successor along the lines of evan. Oh and they have to not be dipshit, weild crazy elemental magic with virtually every attack, and be an elf, and not CLEARLY BE SOMETHING ELSE. You know, the other possible reasons that are f'ucking obvious as to why any class could be something not established for sure at this point.
Quote:For future reference, being 'loud' is not the same as being right.
But being troll enough to disregard all speculation that is not in line with your own is. I'll take that down. All Mercedes has for being body is that really unclear picture. I say the picture could easily be mind. And give other reasons that could also support mind.
If you ask me to treat you like an idiot child, and then i do it, you should know i'm not butthurt. If you've got too much of a ragerection to remember that you actually did, should i assume you are?
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So I've thought about the "Mind" thief wich uses a claw and his mind (illusuions, telecenetic or how that's written)
It's not really possible.
I mean look at this what I just made:
![[Image: 245iphc.gif]](http://i55.tinypic.com/245iphc.gif)
It's a bit raw and doesn't look perfectly, but it doesn't really look... nice, eather.
Hm...
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Celan Wrote:So I've thought about the "Mind" thief wich uses a claw and his mind (illusuions, telecenetic or how that's written)
It's not really possible.
I mean look at this what I just made:
It's a bit raw and doesn't look perfectly, but it doesn't really look... nice, eather.
Hm...
(i'm assuming that's supposed to be a monster)
I don't see why you have to bring it up and smash it down to THEN rush it. Use everything after the smash down part and make any monster behind that one be pushed back into a nice pile and you've got a telekinetic rush for the thief legend.
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Takebacker Wrote:(i'm assuming that's supposed to be a monster)
I don't see why you have to bring it up and smash it down to THEN rush it. Use everything after the smash down part and make any monster behind that one be pushed back into a nice pile and you've got a telekinetic rush for the thief legend. That sure is the ? monster.
Any that's a nice strategy you've got there. Animation-speculations FTW~
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