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#21
Besides "manja" he did a pretty good job. I don't count the "hologram" thing, because most people outside of the technological circle see it that way... more of a common misconception then a mistake.
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#22
This video is..

..depressing.
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Erebus Wrote:Besides "manja" he did a pretty good job. I don't count the "hologram" thing, because most people outside of the technological circle see it that way... more of a common misconception then a mistake.

Technically speaking defining it as a holographic projection would not be incorrect.
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#24
This is what passes as news nowadays?
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#25
It was already admitted that one of the big reasons they even had the concert in the first place was for the publicity. Miku was already in various news papers around the world from the Miku Day performance, having one outside of Japan like this would be sure to tune in the media more. Also CNN had a story on her too I think.


Fox News did a story too. Ironically, I can't find it on youtube.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm14921762

If you don't have a Nicovideo account then plug it into http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html


They should just show this video instead of trying to explain what Miku is. I'm sure their viewers would be better informed.
[video=youtube;V23VvF8SQyI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V23VvF8SQyI[/video]


But all of this aside, what annoys me the most isn't the mispronunciation of manga (as unprofessional as it is) or the crappy "hologram" talk. What annoys me the most is that none of these news stories seem to give credit to the very talented composers that actually make songs using Vocaloids. And a lot of them seem to make it seem like she's from an animated series or something. They never really make mention that she's actually the mascot to the Vocaloud software that people use for their own songs, and that all the songs she's performing are from very different people.

I know if I was interviewed (lol) the first thing I would talk about is how Vocaloid songs all are written and composed by different people, and maybe drop some names like Wowaka or OSTER in there as being popular composers. I'd explain how Vocaloid allows these artists to get recognized. I wouldn't bother talking about how cool Miku herself is, or how the performance was rad unless it was asked.

And for anyone that saw the concert, what the hell was with the audio during World's End Dancehall? It sounded like only Luka was singing, and she was singing off from the song. Kinda disappointing because that's probably my favorite song from what played in the concert.
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#26
I unforunately can't access the sites, but what is it?
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#27
I find it quite unprofessional the tone their using when reporting this, not much the field reporter but the guy on the studio, he was about to burst into laughter due to people cosplying while paying to go see a virtual character/person/idk how to call it sing in a concert.

ETA: If Americans haven't taken the time to learn how to pronounce karaoke you think some reporter in a local station will learn how to pronounce manga?
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#28
I honestly think our parental generation should keel over and die already. They know nothing about anything that has happened after 1990's, and they cannot adapt to anything that's happened during the start of that same decade.

To me, watching them try to adapt to our generation's culture is too embarrasing. This isn't about fashion, or what's new, or who's old and who's not, it's that our parental generation seem like cavemen/cavewomen in our futuristic culture now.
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#29
Kunagisa Wrote:But all of this aside, what annoys me the most isn't the mispronunciation of manga (as unprofessional as it is) or the crappy "hologram" talk. What annoys me the most is that none of these news stories seem to give credit to the very talented composers that actually make songs using Vocaloids. And a lot of them seem to make it seem like she's from an animated series or something. They never really make mention that she's actually the mascot to the Vocaloud software that people use for their own songs, and that all the songs she's performing are from very different people.

I know if I was interviewed (lol) the first thing I would talk about is how Vocaloid songs all are written and composed by different people, and maybe drop some names like Wowaka or OSTER in there as being popular composers. I'd explain how Vocaloid allows these artists to get recognized. I wouldn't bother talking about how cool Miku herself is, or how the performance was rad unless it was asked.

This. It's also never really explained plainly what Vocaloid really is in the first place with most of these news stories. It undermines everything Vocaloid is really about- that it gives a voice for people who really want to compose their own music or to be used for composers who want something interesting to work with. And yes, like you say, it doesn't give enough credit to the talent of the composers and the fact that there's different ones. Western media coverage seems to make it seem almost as if a big music company is behind her. The fact that she's just a mascot for software that's intended for anybody to use for their own songs is gone.

Random_Overlord Wrote:I honestly think our parental generation should keel over and die already. They know nothing about anything that has happened after 1990's, and they cannot adapt to anything that's happened during the start of that same decade.

To me, watching them try to adapt to our generation's culture is too embarrasing. This isn't about fashion, or what's new, or who's old and who's not, it's that our parental generation seem like cavemen/cavewomen in our futuristic culture now.

One of my uncles happens to be an English professor at a respectable college. One day, my aunt came to hang with us and she asked if I knew this "'Friday' song". She was telling me how the video was circulating around the professors at the college because they were emailing each other about it. I don't know what the hell they were like during the whole exchange, but I imagine it must have been like "lol You have to hear this "Friday" song! It's so stupid! How could anyone come up with it?"

I can't quite imagine how, but I know that we'll be like that in the future.
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#30
Kunagisa Wrote:It was already admitted that one of the big reasons they even had the concert in the first place was for the publicity. Miku was already in various news papers around the world from the Miku Day performance, having one outside of Japan like this would be sure to tune in the media more. Also CNN had a story on her too I think.


Fox News did a story too. Ironically, I can't find it on youtube.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm14921762

If you don't have a Nicovideo account then plug it into http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html


They should just show this video instead of trying to explain what Miku is. I'm sure their viewers would be better informed.



But all of this aside, what annoys me the most isn't the mispronunciation of manga (as unprofessional as it is) or the crappy "hologram" talk. What annoys me the most is that none of these news stories seem to give credit to the very talented composers that actually make songs using Vocaloids. And a lot of them seem to make it seem like she's from an animated series or something. They never really make mention that she's actually the mascot to the Vocaloud software that people use for their own songs, and that all the songs she's performing are from very different people.

I know if I was interviewed (lol) the first thing I would talk about is how Vocaloid songs all are written and composed by different people, and maybe drop some names like Wowaka or OSTER in there as being popular composers. I'd explain how Vocaloid allows these artists to get recognized. I wouldn't bother talking about how cool Miku herself is, or how the performance was rad unless it was asked.

And for anyone that saw the concert, what the hell was with the audio during World's End Dancehall? It sounded like only Luka was singing, and she was singing off from the song. Kinda disappointing because that's probably my favorite song from what played in the concert.

Well of course it all had to do with publicity haha, the whole thing was, from the looks of it around con and around nokia live when the show started, a big plug for Toyota -.-

I was actually talking with a guy who was doing journalism on the whole event while standing in line and he asked a few questions about the concert (I'm sure he knew about Miku but wanted to make it seem as though his readers/viewers didn't) and I explained a few aspects of what work goes INTO Vocaloid other than just Miku, Luka, Rin and Len mascots. But it was kind of like grrr to know that none of the MAIN people behind the productions and songs get recognized as much as the face that sings them (Nothing wrong with Miku, she deserves her spotlight haha). I totally agree with you on this.

Andddd, I downloaded the niconico stream and watched the video, and thought it was weird as hell that you could only hear Luka's voice during World's End Dancehall, cause I could hear Miku's voice really clear where I was. Might of just been where the camera was, but I doubt that so there might've been something wrong in picking up her voice. Watching the stream, the audio seems to be all derpy in a lot of different parts now that I look at it.
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Kunagisa Wrote:But all of this aside, what annoys me the most isn't the mispronunciation of manga (as unprofessional as it is) or the crappy "hologram" talk. What annoys me the most is that none of these news stories seem to give credit to the very talented composers that actually make songs using Vocaloids. And a lot of them seem to make it seem like she's from an animated series or something. They never really make mention that she's actually the mascot to the Vocaloud software that people use for their own songs, and that all the songs she's performing are from very different people.

I know if I was interviewed (lol) the first thing I would talk about is how Vocaloid songs all are written and composed by different people, and maybe drop some names like Wowaka or OSTER in there as being popular composers. I'd explain how Vocaloid allows these artists to get recognized. I wouldn't bother talking about how cool Miku herself is, or how the performance was rad unless it was asked.

And for anyone that saw the concert, what the hell was with the audio during World's End Dancehall? It sounded like only Luka was singing, and she was singing off from the song. Kinda disappointing because that's probably my favorite song from what played in the concert.

Agreed. I went to one of the miku panels where they gave a lot of back information on the software in general and how it's evolved from that. It wasn't even that popular until they got miku as the mascot, then it just exploded. I was really impressed with the actual musicians during the concert.

And yea, all the songs sounded just fine to me when I was at the concert.
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#32
I wonder if those guys on the news channel are ever going to realize that the guys in the Anon masks were promoting a Lulzsec affiliate. Rolleyes
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#33
Hanabira.Kage Wrote:
Proud to have embarrassed himself on television, and now the entire world via the internet?

Sure.

I'm proud of him too.

Seriously, if I were him, I'd go hang myself right this instant.
How do you pronounce "genre"?
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#34
Jawn-reh? With a lighter pronounciation of the g/j sound.
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#35
Providence Wrote:How do you pronounce "genre"?

GAWN RYE

Clearly!
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#36
Providence Wrote:How do you pronounce "genre"?

Jawn-rer, with the J being partially Z.

I guess I like pronouncing words like this in a French-ish manner?
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#37
Hanabira.Kage Wrote:
Jawn-rer, with the J being partially Z.

I guess I like pronouncing words like this in a French-ish manner?

French for "genre" is "genre", pronounce like this
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