PSN Down for 5 days and more to come

Has anyone here ever had a PlayStation Plus account? I've always been under the impression that anything you buy while your account is subscribed is only available to you while you are actively subscribing. So basically you "lease" games.

So for example, if you buy Threads of Fate as a regular PSN member you get to keep it indefinitely.
If you buy Threads of Fate as a PS+ subscriber at a discount, when your subscription ends you would no longer have access to it.

The idea of that has always been outrageous to me and that is how they have always communicated it. I would like to know if that is how it actually works before I run out and buy some playstation cards to get discounts on the games I intend to buy.

Has anyone here ever had a PlayStation Plus account? I've always been under the impression that anything you buy while your account is subscribed is only available to you while you are actively subscribing. So basically you "lease" games.

So for example, if you buy Threads of Fate as a regular PSN member you get to keep it indefinitely.
If you buy Threads of Fate as a PS+ subscriber at a discount, when your subscription ends you would no longer have access to it.

The idea of that has always been outrageous to me and that is how they have always communicated it. I would like to know if that is how it actually works before I run out and buy some playstation cards to get discounts on the games I intend to buy.

google is your friend

PlayStation Plus subscribers will also be given exclusive PlayStation Store discounts each month that are above and beyond the current PSN Store discounts available to everyone. These discounts will range from 20% to 50%, and anything you buy with these is yours to keep and enjoy forever.

The download lease only applies to games you get for free. Not the ones you actually pay for

Well, anyone who is going to be like me and use this as a chance to pick up some PSOne classics on the cheap, I will suggest a few...

SUIKODEN. Buy it. Buy it now.
Vagrant Story
Legend of Mana
Threads of Fate
Parasite Eve
Grandia

Well, anyone who is going to be like me and use this as a chance to pick up some PSOne classics on the cheap, I will suggest a few...

SUIKODEN. Buy it. Buy it now.
Vagrant Story
Legend of Mana
Threads of Fate
Parasite Eve
Grandia

oooh!! I always wanted to try grandia/suikoden


I have about 24 bux :O.... hehe hopefully it's enough ~_~

thanks for the heads up sarah!

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/1...t-process/

and you still believe sony? took sony 3 days to inform everyone their server were hacked lol.

and then, sony say that the hacker left a file in their server with the anonnymous thing like you said in a previous thread:

We discovered that the intruders had planted a file on one of our Sony Online Entertainment servers named “Anonymous” with the words “We are Legion.”

if you hack a big company like sony, will you leave a file there saying: hey I hacked you come here and get me? thats just an excuse for sony lack of security and thinking that they are god since no one never hacked PS3 for the past 5-6 years and they thought no one could hack them.

Also, let's not fault the Sony engineers for this, the same way I do not fault the engineers who designed the BMG rootkit. The fault lies with the executives who declared a war on hackers, laughed at the idea of people penetrating the fortress that once was Sony, whined incessantly about piracy, and kept hiring more lawyers when they really needed to hire good security experts. Alienating the hacker community is not a good idea.

Now until more information is revealed on the technicals, I can only speculate, but I bet Sony's arrogance and misunderstanding of ownership put them in this position. Sony execs probably haughtily chuckled at the idea of threat modeling. Traditionally the trust boundary for a web service exists between the server and the client. But Sony believes they own the client too, so if they just put a trust boundary between the consumer and the client(can't trust those pesky consumers), everything is good. Since everyone knows the PS3 is unhackable, why waste money adding pointless security between the client and the server? This arrogance undermines a basic security principle,[SIZE="3"] never trust the client.[/SIZE] It's the same reason MW2 was covered in cheaters, Infinity Ward even admitted to the mistake of trusting Sony's client. Sony needs to accept that they no longer own and control the PS3 when they sell it to you. Notice it's only PSN that gave away all your personal data, not Xbox Live when the 360 was hacked, not iTunes when the iPhone was jailbroken, and not GMail when Android was rooted. Because other companies aren't crazy.

In Europe we get to choose from the same games, except that we can pick Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty instead of Stardust HD. If you live in Germany though InFAMOUS and Dead Nation gets swaped for Stardust HD and some kind of golf game. Poor germans.

I recommend getting Q4B then. It's about 5 hours long but it also unlocks a sweet outfit in A Crack In Time.

I recommend getting Q4B then. It's about 5 hours long but it also unlocks a sweet outfit in A Crack In Time.

I plan on getting InFAMOUS, the second one is still up for debate. I never really played Ratchet and Clank before, and I would probably not buy another one of them either unless Q4B was epicly awesome. The other games does not look so interesting though, Dead Nation looked kinda dull, racing games suck unless they are Mario kart, and I do not even get LBP.

I plan on getting InFAMOUS, the second one is still up for debate. I never really played Ratchet and Clank before, and I would probably not buy another one of them either unless Q4B was epicly awesome. The other games does not look so interesting though, Dead Nation looked kinda dull, racing games suck unless they are Mario kart, and I do not even get LBP.

It's not epicly awesome but it's fun and humourous. It's a good introduction to the series but since it's a continuation of Tools of Destruction it's may be a little confusing. Plus Clank isn't available so you'll be missing that aspect. But considering it's free and all of the other games blow it's totally worth it.

There's a rumor that's been going around that the PS Store will be up tomorrow. Also i'm torn between LBP and Infamous. Infamous seems like it can get boring with the whole open environment concept, while LBP doesn't really feel diverse enough in it's gameplay for me. I get the whole create your own map and share thing, but it feels like it would get old after awhile.