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Final Cut
#1
1. In the skill tables, what does the "Maximum strength" correspond to

2. What effect does charging have on FC

3. Does FC just double the non-mirrored hits of your attacks

4a. Are there any invince frames for this skill. Mostly asking as I feel it's really dangerous when I try to FC at skeles, and that hp cost brings me to 1hko from skele touch/magic. So far I always seem to miss them, but was wondering if I must pot immediatley to prevent death

4b. If there isn't any frames, what's the best way to go about FCing at major bosses like zak and HT and cwk
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#2
1. Maximum Strength = % HP required to use skill
2. Charging supposedly might increase damage, it's pointless though.
3. FC does +200% damage, not double.
4a. Pot immediately after for your safety.
4b. For Zak, you can do it on the summons on the top left, or across zak (Somewhat dangerous if you're not too close), For CWKPQ, just attack right through it. I'd guess for Horntail, you can use it off the corner to hit since you won't fall off.
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#3
charging does make you do more damage than not charging. try just tapping it and you'll see the difference.

For surviving I try to kill the monsters with FC so I have time to pot. you're invincible during the skill, but no invincibility frames immediately after, so if you land on a monster you get hit.

at zak you can go into zak's body with dark sight and final cut out. haven't been to ht or cwk on my DB, but I supose the same can be done on cwk, though there's no need for dark sight since they hit little.
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#4
Charging final cut increases the damage it does, the damage bonus it gives, and the hp it uses, so it's almost always in your best interest to charge it fully. When you hit a monster with it fully charged, it gives you 2x damage on your non-mirrored hits, not +200%. The way to use final cut in general is to charge it while standing on top of a mob or with a bunch of monsters attacking you then release it just as you get hit so you get that second of invincibility to use a potion. If you get missed, then it should be fine. If you get hit, autohp will heal if you if you have it, but if you don't have it, your FC will simply stop and say you don't have enough hp to use this skill. If you don't have autohp, just keep trying to do that until you get a miss, shouldn't take too long because thieves have really good avoid. It's really easy once you get the hang of it. There's a point you get enough hp and/or enough damage on it to just simply use it though without worrying about dying. At zakum, you can final cut straight across it with maxed final cut, or if your final cut isn't maxed, chains backward and walk into it with dark sight on and FC out, assuming you have ADS, and make sure to chains immediately if ADS works, use a potion if it doesn't so you don't kill yourself. You don't want to do this with chaos zakum though because it'll dispel your dark sight while you're on top of it. At zakum arms and ckpq, the bosses aren't lethal, so you can just do what I mentioned up there. At horntail, there are plenty of ledges you can use it on, it doesn't rush forward if there's no ground in front of you.
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#5
3. I discovered the following problems with Final cut

When i use uper Stab. I See 140k crits DMG on my DB's Screen but on my Mule Screen i see exactly 70K crits.

Same goes for Tornado Spin in the other direction.
When Final Cut is not active and i use Tornado spin after Assaulter i see 70k crits but my Mule see 140k crits from TS.

I also hit a monster in OB4 with upper stap, 149k crit but it didnt die. Im really confused now about the different numbers...
Well i also used OWL it did 141k (thats the HP of OB5 monster) but i didnt get the OWL buff..
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#6
That last part could be due to critial ring activating.

I would check in-game but I can't atm. When you're charging FC (outside of DS), can you pot or will it restart the charge. I'm assuming you can?
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#7
 Regular damage

 No Charge Final Cut

 Fully Charged Final Cut

Final Cut is level 20. Wastes 55% of max HP.
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#8
Locked Wrote:
 Regular damage

 No Charge Final Cut

 Fully Charged Final Cut

Final Cut is level 20. Wastes 55% of max HP.

The screen for Fatal Blow with no charge and full charge are the same, Monocle
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#9
Secun Wrote:The screen for Fatal Blow with no charge and full charge are the same, Monocle

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there.
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