Arzuna or reverse look?

I've been thinking about the endgame equips for my bowman, and I've decided it'll be the lvl 100 overall-gloves-shoes + the timeless bow, because I really like the looks of it and the timeless equips are ugly IMO (I'm even going to cover the bow with an nx-one >_<)

But of course I'll be missing out on some stats when I'll be doing this! My question is pretty simple (thats why I posted here ;P): How many stats will that be? I'm not that of a statwhore, but it's nice to know how much my sexy looks will cost me Another question here: How many stats will that on average be when they're lvled up? I heard it was about 1 dex and .5 str on every lvlup so 3 dex and 1.5 str on average I'll lose too (times 3 :'( = 9 dex 4.5 str)?

So annoing reverse items don't show on hiddenstreet >_< I'm also only lvl 90 so I can't check the stats on item maker

So in short I'd like to know:
- Dex/str of reverse overall/gloves/shoes
- avg dex/str on lvlup of those equips
- Your advise on going arzuna-look or reverse look


Tnx!

Since you're likely to maker both of them, depending on the crystals and scrolls you use, you could miss out on 5 or even 25 stats. The real bonus of the reverse stuff is that it levels up, so you get extra stuff. The shoes and overall are the only other timeless things i could see a bowman making besides the weapon.

The average stats will show up if you hover over the picture in item maker =)

I'd go for whichever you could afford. Since you have some NX, you could always cover that up too?

Here's the Sticky in Training Grounds section shows practically everything you asked for :

http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14754

good luck =)

Since you're likely to maker both of them, depending on the crystals and scrolls you use, you could miss out on 5 or even 25 stats. The real bonus of the reverse stuff is that it levels up, so you get extra stuff. The shoes and overall are the only other timeless things i could see a bowman making besides the weapon.

The average stats will show up if you hover over the picture in item maker =)

I'd go for whichever you could afford. Since you have some NX, you could always cover that up too?

Here's the Sticky in Training Grounds section shows practically everything you asked for :

http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14754

good luck =)

Yeah but the problem is the great disparity in cost. An 8 str, 9 dex red arzuna (6/7 average + basic power/dex) only costs like 5mil to make, while reverse evernew with advanced power, dex, and dark takes like 350-400mil, giving 27 total stats on average after levelups, or 17-37 actually depending on the effects of the dark crystal. Especially with the recent deflation of 30% overall str/dex scrolls, tossing 30%s on red arzunas is a much better deal unless you have the mesos to back up dark crystal failures to shoot for an insane reverse evernew.

woah I think you all understood me wrong xD

First Worthyness: I knew all that, but problem is I'm only lvl 90, so I can't maker timeless items yet, so I couldn't check out the stats there. But your link is very usefull tnx

To Cyanne: Woah^2 I'm not going to do any of that stuff because for one I'm not that rich! Plan was to play it safe by makering each equip with +5 crystals (which I will make myself) and scroll em with 60%'s (dex for overall, jump on the shoes, attack on the gloves).

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So, to answer my own question:
Overall:
Arzuna: STR +6 (6-7), DEX +4
Timeless Evernew: STR: +6 + 1.5, DEX: +9 +1.5 (the 1.5 is from lvling the item 3 times gaining on average 0-1 stat)
-> totall loss of stats: 8

Shoes:
Green Arnah Shoes: DEX +6
Timeless Rontano: STR: +3 +1.5, DEX: +6 +1.5
-> Total loss 6 stats

So in total i'll be losing 14 stats (8-22) (and maybe a glove even though I'll never be able to scroll it better than the mittens I have now -> that would make 20 stats...)

I guess that's not the end of the world? I hear everywhere that, for a bowman, stats don't matter that much later on (see blood build and stuff). So I'll be losing out on 2-3 attack worth of stats.

Also I 'll hopefully have a nice reverse Engaw (got 9 65% scrolls ready )


Maybe I should just make both to be sure xD Just started hunting time pieces and it's pretty fun 45 or 55/60 doesn't matter that much if you look it that way

Red arzunas are 6/7 average.

Consider that, with the money to make the timeless overall, you could make AND scroll more than 1 arzuna and get whichever has the best result. That could compensate the timeless advantage.

Red arzunas are 6/7 average.

but I want a green one

Consider that, with the money to make the timeless overall, you could make AND scroll more than 1 arzuna and get whichever has the best result. That could compensate the timeless advantage.

Yea true, maybe I'll toss a 30% on the first slot of the first one, and if it booms I could make another one (and do that with 10 60%'s >_<)

Reverse bowman overall is kind of really a showcase spectacular fuglyfest, go with the red arzuna, or green if you can make use of the extra STR and won't miss the broken stat jump between red and the other colors.
You will potentially miss out on quite a bit if you do not go with the reverse bow, look at the goldy maker'd items topic in the scroll lock and you will see that some weapons can be purple without 1 scroll landed.
Also hunting for pieces of time for my Lampion gave me a new purpose to train.

Reverse bowman overall is kind of really a showcase spectacular fuglyfest.

You're just jealous that I'm FABULOUS and you're not.

You're just jealous that I'm FABULOUS and you're not.

Hahaha. Of course.

I honestly don't think the Reverse bowman overall looks nice. I'd pick the Arzuna if you care about fashion. The Reverse overall just looks clunky and ugly. :|

You're just jealous that I'm FABULOUS and you're not.

Aww crap, got me there son!

Then again it's just preference, myself, I go with the osfa top and pants, because I find em delicious.

How about a completely mismatched hodge-podge of whatever you manage to scroll, covered by 17 dollars of NX clothing that'll expire in 3 months? Sadly, that more often than not is what people end up doing.

Reverse shiite is good because if you make it well enough, it'll be as good 60d as godly lvl 90-100 stuff used to be. I generally dealt with the hideousness of my equips by buying cheap but good looking gear -- the black officer uniform, 4.9k i think, black dress shoes, 1k, and transparent hat. Pretty cheap, I think.

You're just jealous that I'm FABULOUS and you're not.

we can be FABULOUS together <333333

Reverse shiite is good because if you make it well enough, it'll be as good 60d as godly lvl 90-100 stuff used to be.

Come on, as a Bowman you have the ability to wear any level armor you want, and the level 120 gear actually has better stats than level 90-100. If you don't wear reverse equips, who will?

Come on, as a Bowman you have the ability to wear any level armor you want, and the level 120 gear actually has better stats than level 90-100. If you don't wear reverse equips, who will?

Yea, for bowmen the reverse is actually a good option (albeit fugly). But the other classes?
A/Ms could possibly use the luk on their overall to equip the higher lvl ele staff, otherwise its pretty useless. A bishop have no use for the luk at all. A pirate face the same deal, no use for the secondary stat since the overall itself require the highest amount. Warriors then? Ya sure, only a top and bottom scrolled semi good blows an ace scrolled overall out of the water. All the bad things of the previous examples go for thieves above all else.