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HP Requirement for Pink Bean
#61
DualReaver Wrote:Btw, with concern to SS, does that mean you could place an SS mule in the middle of the warriors to keep them from dying too?

yes, u can do it, but since SS last for 1min, and its cooldown is 10min (i guess), i don't know if it will work good enough.
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#62
Crazyman Wrote:1 we have meso gaurd that make all attacks to 1/2 the normal so we are good.

SS blocks all but 1/1 and stun and seduce and dispel

Meso guard reduces 17k to 8.5k. Without HP equips or at least a couple of washes this is more HP than a level 200 Shadower has.
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#63
CrazyNomad Wrote:yes, u can do it, but since SS last for 1min, and its cooldown is 10min (i guess), i don't know if it will work good enough.

Great... even Buccs can't help with that, since they need 20 minutes at max to reload TS.
20 Buccs anyone? Big Grin
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#64
Dusk Wrote:Meso guard reduces 17k to 8.5k. Without HP equips or at least a couple of washes this is more HP than a level 200 Shadower has.

some shadower in broa, lvl 169, have 5100 HP, she did some wash, so i guess if she still continue doing hp wash, she will have around 8.5k.

anyway the party would have HB :f6:, 3 shadower, 1 HB, 1 bishop, 1 pirate = 6 person right?

and again, if you are under SS protection, you wont need to worry about getting hit. if you guys watch kMS vid, PB only seduce when you get hit by the musical note, only if SS wont protect you from that.
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#65
I washed 70-75 times and only have ~6250 HP at Level 200. Realistically, damage reflect is the thing that scares me the most (since it hits through MG....), everything else I can get by with massive avoid + fake + BS godmode.

Smokescreen will guard against anything that is attack based (as most of you already know) so the only thing that would be a problem is anything that isn't, which for PBs case I don't know what that is.
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#66
I think its at the point that practically EVERY class needs to hp wash to survive at PB. o-o
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#67
Using ME is garbage at pb. I’ll explain in the following paragraph but if we were to go with that plan with a group of Shadowers - it would be easier if they just set up meso at the left side and then warriors rush pb to the left or wherever(maybe a little right to the throne,) so they aren’t constantly being bombarded by pb’s attacks. It would be less hectic and much easier. The only problem would be to move ranged about face from pb so they don’t get hit but who knows.

Using ME would be obsolete because last I remember, it takes just exactly 3minutes before any item disappears from when it is dropped and within this time frame, I think an average to pro-ish Shadower could set off about 14 to 18 explosions before they all of the meso poofs. 14 explosions * 20 sacks * 10k a sack = 2,800,000 mesos in 3minutes. The damage ME does is just about three times the amount dropped so that’s only ~9m dmg in 3minutes. (Believe me on this. I’ve done a lot of testing ME with zak back then.) Account for the time to heal and getting into ds and re-buffing mg, it’s a lot of unnecessary work. A Shadower within pb’s level with max BS and max assassinate could deal well over 4m per minute.

If you want to talk about the neutral immunity from pb, then yeah, ME does sound good but I don’t think it’s worth it because too risky. If a server does really get far based on this plan, I would be impressed. ~21 minutes left with pb and three shadowers? That’s at least 150m dmg with ME, less than a tenth of pb’s total hp and also about a tenth of the squad’s power. I certainly wouldn’t dismiss the idea. Just make sure you have competent runners and figure out when/how to heal. Just hiding in smoke is a waste of a minute.

Quantact Wrote:Cyanne, it might be helpful to put the exact HP needed in all circumstances rather than "enough to survive Anego," and the like. Most people will know what those are, but hard numbers are easier to keep track of. You'll take care of a lot of questions because the numbers will speak for themselves.
Base HP for up to phase 5 - 5.3k (Whytebar from Windia lasted up to there)
Base HP for PB's Gen - 7.5k (~12k hit from it in misc videos)
Base HP for Ariel's Gen - 8.1k (Ranged shouldn't be up at the topmost platform anyway. Refer to Plana Phase 6 video on youtube.)
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#68
Dusk Wrote:Meso guard reduces 17k to 8.5k. Without HP equips or at least a couple of washes this is more HP than a level 200 Shadower has.

your forgetting that hb will make us have that need # to be safe make we need with HB is 10k health no need for the extreme 17k+ like NL and BM and Sairs
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