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Is Science everything? - AngelSL - 2009-03-29
Followup to my previous thread, especially towards Vathek.
Is Science really everything? (excluding fictional characters that are also know as gods)
If something does not have scientific evidence, is it false? (excluding fictional characters that are also know as gods)
If something does not comply with some scientific laws, is it false? (excluding fictional characters that are also know as gods)
If you answered Yes to any of the above 3 questions, then..
you obviously don't know or is ignoring the fact that current science
Is Not Complete! There are still many, many things undiscovered or untested. That doesn't mean something doesn't exist. It could. In regards to my previous thread, if you say that it doesn't exist, or it can't because it's breaking the laws of physics, *BUT* there are already many people that have it, and there's evidence, and you still say it doesn't, then you're too narrow-minded. Go check the net. There may even be someone in your school that can do it.
Discuss. And post your answers; personally, mine are false for all;
Is Science everything? - Melancholy - 2009-03-29
I'm just going to answer "Is Science everything?".
I don't believe so.
It may be everything, but we can never prove it is.
There may be something out there someone can imagine up.
In which case we can never proclaim Science as everything because it's unproveable, even if it is everything.
Is Science everything? - Beaner - 2009-03-29
in one word
yes
Is Science everything? - Kirov - 2009-03-29
*Waits for this to become a science VS religion thread.*
Is Science everything? - Vathek - 2009-03-29
XBish Wrote:in one word
yes
What this dude said.
WHAT EVIDENCE? Please, by all means, show me the blind experiment out there that proves that people can light candles on fire with their minds. Show me an iota of evidence that would stand up to more than ten minutes of dedicated analysis by people who do this for a living, and I will take back everything I said about your thoughts on this subject being puerile and possibly based in abnormal psychology, and go off to become a Buddhist monk in Tibet.
Go ahead, link me to what you consider to be actual physical evidence for telekinesis and pyro-kinesis and whatever other powers you and your friends have decided to declare you have to make up for the fact that your mothers didn't love you.
Is Science everything? - crewe127 - 2009-03-29
IMO, yea.
Is Science everything? - Melancholy - 2009-03-29
What if we're all just someone's imagination or dream, and this isn't reality.
Which would explain why it doesn't make any pineappleing sense.
Science can't fully explain life, and Religion can't either.
Which means we haven't digged deep enough. =o
Is Science everything? - Vathek - 2009-03-29
Melancholy Wrote:What if we're all just someone's imagination or dream, and this isn't reality.
Which would explain why it doesn't make any pineappleing sense.
Science can't fully explain life, and Religion can't either.
Which means we haven't digged deep enough. =o
'What if' questions like that are completely irrelevant. What if x y z 4 1 9 0 blah blah blah.
What if science as we have it now has laid out for us thousands of things that were incomprehensible mysteries only a short while ago, including basically every last bit of human physiology?
What if we have put men on the moon? Do you think we did it through telekinesis?
'What if' questions like that do a grotesque disservice to the people who spent their lives studying and training and inventing just so lazy fu~ckknuckles like us could use an internet forum to argue with each other about it.
Is Science everything? - Melancholy - 2009-03-29
Most of them asked "What if".
And I think Science will be able to explain everything eventually. Or maybe the human race will die out before we can find out.
The enigma that is life may never be unveiled.
Is Science everything? - Berzerk - 2009-03-29
My oppinion, yeah, science is everything. But you are correct about it not being complete. The ideal of gods and creators, is just complete bullshit.
Is Science everything? - Orit - 2009-03-29
The scientific method is everything.
Our current body of knowledge (what you call "science") is, of course, incomplete. There may, theoretically, be another form of energy, "mental energy", of which we know nothing.
However, the Scientific Method applies to that, too. If one can demonstrate, under controlled conditions, a phenomenon that is unexplained by current scientific theories, we are obligated to study it and try to develop a theory that accounts for it.
Is Science everything? - Takebacker - 2009-03-29
Vathek Wrote:lazy fu~ckknuckles
That's a new one, lol.
IMO yeah it pretty much is.
Is Science everything? - Derimed - 2009-03-29
Kirov Wrote:*Waits for this to become a science VS religion thread.*
I'd turn it into one, but the horse has been beat to death, resurrected by God, beaten to death again, etc. for about 9 trillion times since the internets was created. I believe in ethical treatment for animals (lulz) and so I don't want to beat the dead horse.
Is Science everything? - Providence - 2009-03-29
Berzerk Wrote:The ideal of gods and creators, is just complete bullpomegranate.
Science is everything only to things within its jurisdiction. Outside of that (spirituality), no; it can't prove or disprove many things. People who mock the idea of a higher power are those that have formed their own opinion in atheism. That doesn't mean they're right. Really, it's impossible to judge what or what isn't outside waiting for us (or if it's even there at all). This is why we form opinions in the meantime: to explain, in our own ways, some of life's mysteries.
Though I don't identify myself as a Christian, I strongly believe, based on personal experience, death isn't the end. Would I ever say "atheism is complete bullpomegranate"? Nope, as I accept that it's impossible to be right regarding this matter.
Is Science everything? - Harrisonized - 2009-03-29
Science isn't everything.
It's a method of thinking and questioning that involves high validity. Otherwise, you'd see people trying to make ridiculous claims without evidence, (especially those from religion) and then many people will end up believing the wrong things because someone said so.
You're welcome to believe anything you'd like, but science just makes things a lot more standardized.
Is Science everything? - Stereo - 2009-03-29
Providence Wrote:This is why we form opinions in the meantime
I don't see the point. It'll happen the way it is, regardless what we think, and there's nothing we can do.
There are plenty of things science doesn't yet explain but are clearly observed - why not concentrate on those, instead of things that are unexplained, unobserved, and unimportant.
Is Science everything? - Providence - 2009-03-29
Stereo Wrote:I don't see the point. It'll happen the way it is, regardless what we think, and there's nothing we can do.While this may be true, you must realize that not everyone shares this opinion. Many people use religious beliefs as means to answer questions such as where we came from, where we're going, why we're here, and the like. Others may use religious practices to cope with aging and the inevitability of death. The idea of life being snuffed out entirely is seen as extremely unsettling by some.
There are plenty of things science doesn't yet explain but are clearly observed - why not concentrate on those, instead of things that are unexplained, unobserved, and unimportant.
Thinking of death leads us to try to find personal conclusions which may be shared with others (organized religion) if we believe strongly enough.
Is Science everything? - Melancholy - 2009-03-29
The only thing that leaves me rather puzzled is The Laws of Conservation... Energy must remain constant and matter cannot be created nor destroyed.
It makes a paradox.
We could not have been created, but at some point matter must have been created (not necessarily by a God though, there's probably a Scientific law waiting to be unearthed that explains life's genesis without the use of magical creatures).
Is Science everything? - Beaner - 2009-03-29
instead of looking at time and energy as a linear concept picture it as a circular one. thats makes it clear.
Is Science everything? - Derimed - 2009-03-29
Atheist: religious person, gimme empirical proof that God exists.
Religious person: atheist, gimme empirical proof that God does not exist.
...........
Profit!