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Sensory problems? - ♥Ji - 2009-03-18
so ji has a variety of sensory problems including hypersensitivity to sound and light. that's fine.
(this is a weird one. posted in Rubik's cube as i am interested in scientific opinions.)
i am curious: is it possible to be hypersensitive to heat? i am also a long-time heliophobe and get predictably stressed in hot weather or the sun.
i was absolutely fine, heat wise, all day until about 15 minutes ago when: i drank a warm glass of milk. (i like milk.)
and now i am overheating. waves of sweat and panic as i feel like my body is heating up out of control. so i fill a basin of cold tap water and immerse my arms in it for 10 minutes, which helps. i go away for 5 minutes, surf some internet. i drink a glass of cold water, and despite that, i'm still heating up (again).
i have just bathed my arms in cold water again for a minute. i have also just finished sucking on an ice cube and it feels better, but a minute after and now i can feel myself heating up again.
i have had panic attacks before when i fell asleep in the car while my fiance was driving us home on a hot sunny day and when i woke up i was very hot so i started panicking. had a freezing cold shower for a while and that was better.
is this a bizarre sensory reaction or just my homeostasis on vacation?
i have just eaten another ice cube...and i am heating up again.
please discuss, your insights will be appreciated
Sensory problems? - Chompy - 2009-03-18
I know from experience that intense heat can case nose-bleeds.
Sensory problems? - KajitiSouls - 2009-03-19
Chompy Wrote:I know from experience that intense heat can case nose-bleeds.
That reminds me, my cousin always had a bleeding nose every week during Summer time.
♥Ji, I'm totally unfamiliar with your condition if it's just the way you are, but my first thought would have been to suspect the milk you drank. My second thought would have to be about inert viral DNA doing weird stuff. Few viruses add their DNA to your cells, and the DNA then remains dormant (instead of causing your cells to become virus factories like normal viruses do) until a certain environmental trigger occurs, such as lots of heat. I do not have any knowledge on specific viruses which can do this though. My last thought would have to be associated with some other disease.
*shrugs*
Sensory problems? - ♥Ji - 2009-03-19
thanks for your thoughts.
milk used to be my favourite drink. it has never been associated with overheating unless it was warm...
i could possibly be allergic to milk (the possibility is there, just never tested), but those would be much more likely to be gastrointestinal rather than have an immediate effect on my body temp, right?
inert viral DNA sounds interesting, maybe i'll look it up
i think most people would get physically hot, then slowly physically cool down, or whatever. in contrast, when i get physically hot (doesn't have to be a large amount - like that warm drink), one of the first things that happens is that panic kicks in, sending waves of sweat and hyperventilating etc. this increases my heart rate, which would probably make me feel hotter, meaning more panic, meaning feel even hotter, etc into overload - i don't seem to have that chance to naturally cool down.
or if i do, my body doesn't kick into cooldown mode very quickly.
disease - well, i am supposed to have a high functioning form of autism. does that count as a disease? that's where my other hypersensitivity comes in. at the moment hypersensitivity to heat is my only explanation.
i just never heard of heat hypersensitivity before.
Sensory problems? - KajitiSouls - 2009-03-19
♥Ji Wrote:thanks for your thoughts.Yeah, it would most likely be gastrointestinal and wouldn't cause your body to flare up like a light. But then again food poisoning takes on a nice variety of forms, and a good number of them often go unrecognized.
milk used to be my favourite drink. it has never been associated with overheating unless it was warm...
i could possibly be allergic to milk (the possibility is there, just never tested), but those would be much more likely to be gastrointestinal rather than have an immediate effect on my body temp, right?
♥Ji Wrote:inert viral DNA sounds interesting, maybe i'll look it upOh yeah, that just reminds me, it could very well be a psychological disorder. Not as in just mental issues, but that your brain is misbehaving. Such diseases are rather vague and not very well defined though.
i think most people would get physically hot, then slowly physically cool down, or whatever. in contrast, when i get physically hot (doesn't have to be a large amount - like that warm drink), one of the first things that happens is that panic kicks in, sending waves of sweat and hyperventilating etc. this increases my heart rate, which would probably make me feel hotter, meaning more panic, meaning feel even hotter, etc into overload - i don't seem to have that chance to naturally cool down.
or if i do, my body doesn't kick into cooldown mode very quickly.
♥Ji Wrote:disease - well, i am supposed to have a high functioning form of autism. does that count as a disease? that's where my other hypersensitivity comes in. at the moment hypersensitivity to heat is my only explanation.Autism shouldn't really be related to heat hypersensitivity o.O
i just never heard of heat hypersensitivity before.
Again, I really don't know what could be causing it. It could just be your body developing a late hypersensitivity reaction (much like how Alzheimer's disease pops up at age 40) for all we know.
Sensory problems? - ♥Ji - 2009-03-19
autism is a neurological condition - sylvian fissure abnormalities i believe - which is characterised by (broadly) social deficits, obsessiveness, and need for routine/repetitiveness.
although sensory problems are not diagnostic criteria, autism is very strongly associated with sensory difficulties such as sensory integration disorders including auditory processing disorder, hyperacusis and photosensitivity, as well as synesthesia (muddled up sensations, one of my friends can feel finger movement inside his mouth whenever he wiggles his fingers, gets tastes when he sees certain colours etc). most autistics are usually abnormally sensitive to touch as well, in vastly differing ways. "severe" autistic stimming (headbanging, rocking, spinning, screaming) is usually a way of dealing with some sort of abnormal sensation. this is in general, won't apply to everyone by any stretch.
although, alternative to a sensory dysfunction, someone suggested to me that maybe it's comorbid something-wrong-with-my-internal-thermostat, heh. that i get more stressed more easily by a lower temperature (everyone would get stressed and panicky at a room temp of 45 deg Celsius, maybe i get stressed at a lower threshold).
although that sounds like sensory again...
thanks again for your thoughts
oh -
psychological disorder: i'm also diagnosed comorbid (i think generalised) anxiety disorder, depression and possible adhd (that last one i think is rubbish). and ocd (waiting for dx on that one, possibly excluded if autism reaches far enough).. mm, maybe it's the anxiety? but why get anxious in the first place..
Sensory problems? - Katie - 2009-03-19
Not to be rude but even with me being in Nursing school I wouldn't ever give you my opinion on what I think that is. That is diagnosing which is unethical. Also, I really don't think anyone on this forum can tell you what is going on with you other than your own physician.
Oh and to whoever said Alzheimer's starts at 40 is wrong. =)
Sensory problems? - FallenMemory - 2009-03-19
Menopause. =P
Sensory problems? - KajitiSouls - 2009-03-19
Katie Wrote:Oh and to whoever said Alzheimer's starts at 40 is wrong. =)
Alzheimers can happen as early as age 20 or so. There's also a spectrum of patients who started to show signs of Alzheimers in between 20 and 65, though those are pretty darn rare. Regular Alzheimers that most of us know it as occurs in the elderly.
Early Alzheimers is (usually) an inherited disorder btw =P
Sensory problems? - Katie - 2009-03-19
KajitiSouls Wrote:Alzheimers can happen as early as age 20 or so. There's also a spectrum of patients who started to show signs of Alzheimers in between 20 and 65, though those are pretty darn rare. Regular Alzheimers that most of us know it as occurs in the elderly.
Early Alzheimers is (usually) an inherited disorder btw =P
It's called Alzheimers in the elderly and something else in "younger" people. I know how Alzheimers is, I am in Nursing school and we just learned this last week =)
On topic: Ji, would you mind me asking you what kind of Autism you have?
Sensory problems? - KajitiSouls - 2009-03-19
Katie Wrote:It's called Alzheimers in the elderly and something else in "younger" people. I know how Alzheimers is, I am in Nursing school and we just learned this last week =)
On topic: Ji, would you mind me asking you what kind of Autism you have?
So basically you're bashing on my generalization of Alzheimers. Of course, Alzheimers is really just a certain category for gray matter deterioration, there's really no clearly defined borders for which disease is what.
Oh, and I learned about this in Psychology courses. Not saying it's superior to your Nursing school; on the contrary I do believe nurses would know better.
Sensory problems? - ♥Ji - 2009-03-19
didn't mean to offend anyone by posting this thread!
just looking for some educated opinions but i know nothing replaces professional advice
fallenmemory - hot flashes are something people have suggested to me before, but i am in my 20s and this has happened since at least early teenage. also the panic symptoms such as hyperventilation and feeling of being out of control, etc, do not seem consistent with menopausal hot flashes.
katie - i am dx'd aspergers but probably more likely hfa or PDD-NOS as i have self-care/day-to-day difficulties, which are specifically excluded in aspergers DSM criteria. some countries define aspergers as distinct from hfa and some do not. from talking to other autists i expect multiple rediagnoses anyway.
Sensory problems? - Katie - 2009-03-19
KajitiSouls Wrote:So basically you're bashing on my generalization of Alzheimers. Of course, Alzheimers is really just a certain category for gray matter deterioration, there's really no clearly defined borders for which disease is what.
Oh, and I learned about this in Psychology courses. Not saying it's superior to your Nursing school; on the contrary I do believe nurses would know better.
No, I'm not bashing anything. It's hard to tell tone over the interwebs so I apologize if you thought I was bashing.
Ji~ My son has asperger's as well and he is always cold. I'm not sure of your age or where you live but I would assume that maybe it could of just been a fluke. I haven't heard people with autism having a hypersensitivity to heat unless their were other health concerns as well. Could it of just been the warm milk? I would maybe just call your regular doctor and just ask them what they think if maybe you should make a doctors appointment or if it's nothing to be concerned with.
Sensory problems? - ♥Ji - 2009-03-20
mm if you've met one autie, you've met one autie, as they say!
will definitely get it checked out. i'm in my 20s and this has happened for at least the last decade if my memory serves well, since childhood if you count sun-related anxiety.
i agree it was the warm milk too: just the reaction that seems perhaps not what everyone else goes through.
thanks for your thoughts katie.
Sensory problems? - RahlsSoldier - 2009-03-20
I know this might seem quite rude to say, but have you ever thought about attempting to control your panic and anxiety? I know it's difficult, especially with autism, but having a greater control on your mind and body should do wonders in regards to panic and anxiety.
Personally, I think that because you think your body is going to warm up, you make it warm up. Then you panic and are unable to cool it down, as you are thinking "Oh no, I'm heating up," and panicking.
Sensory problems? - ♥Ji - 2009-03-20
RahlsSoldier Wrote:I know this might seem quite rude to say, but have you ever thought about attempting to control your panic and anxiety? I know it's difficult, especially with autism, but having a greater control on your mind and body should do wonders in regards to panic and anxiety.not rude at all, thanks for your thoughts.
Personally, I think that because you think your body is going to warm up, you make it warm up. Then you panic and are unable to cool it down, as you are thinking "Oh no, I'm heating up," and panicking.
but i am not sure what you mean or how this is possible, i may have misunderstood you. when i talk about panic i mean in terms of clinical symptoms (ie evidence) of anxiety - i don't know it's happening until after/when it happens, because you can only tell by symptoms. not sure if i am making sense sorry.
i have tried for many years and believe you cannot reduce blood adrenalin to normal levels solely by thinking about it.
(edit: unless you mean cbt. if i could do cbt to myself i would not need to be booking this psychiatrist & psychologist for just the anxiety (let alone the AS!)! they're both so expensive!)
when i am talking about panic i am making random suggestions! sorry! i don't have expert knowledge on the theory of uncontrollable heat. another possibility: an autistic friend suggested maybe it's a funny internal thermostat, and that the anxiety is consistent with stress response.